Sugar Bowl: #13 Michigan def. #11 Virginia Tech, 23-20 (OT)

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Jan 4, 2012 10:39 PM
wildcats20;1039274 wrote:Because they didn't have an "impact" on the game. Although they really could have.

Who knows what happens on the game winner if it's back another 5 yards. Shaky kicker, Tech's special teams, who knows?
An OT FG and a converted 1st down that lead to a FG certainly is an impact.
Jan 4, 2012 10:39pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:41 PM
Tiger2003;1039310 wrote:Wrong. If you go back and watch it the lineman who catches the football was on the 15 yard line when the ball was tipped. Like I said I am happy Michigan won but that was a bad no call.
What was the line of scrimmage? I thought the 19 or 20? Linemen can go downfield as soon as the ball crosses the LOS. They also get a 3 yard cushion from the original LOS. That would mean they would have to travel 1-2 yards once the ball crossed the LOS to get to the 15 to catch it. The ball wasn't thrown on a line, and there was plenty of time for even them to take the two steps in that direction required. I haven't seen a replay showing where they were in when the ball was thrown, but it isn't impossible to think it was a legal play.
Jan 4, 2012 10:41pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:42 PM
WebFire;1039316 wrote:I watched earlier today and it did look like he was more like 5 yards past the LOS when the ball was tipped. So it could have been called.

Yah it's all good. By the way is that the first time they wore those white jerseys? :)
Jan 4, 2012 10:42pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:44 PM
overall, I think the reason most people aren't sqwuaking about it much is you just never see it. How many times can you think of where a kicker double clutched prior to the snap and made the kick? I mean you see the clucth on bad snaps and holds but never before the snap lol, it's just too fucking odd.
Jan 4, 2012 10:44pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:44 PM
Overall, I think the reason most people aren't sqwuaking about it much is you just never see it. How many times can you think of where a kicker double clutched prior to the snap and made the kick? I mean you see the clucth on bad snaps and holds but never before the snap lol, it's just too fucking odd.
Jan 4, 2012 10:44pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:46 PM
karen lotz;1039326 wrote:What was the line of scrimmage? I thought the 19 or 20? Linemen can go downfield as soon as the ball crosses the LOS. They also get a 3 yard cushion from the original LOS. That would mean they would have to travel 1-2 yards once the ball crossed the LOS to get to the 15 to catch it. The ball wasn't thrown on a line, and there was plenty of time for even them to take the two steps in that direction required. I haven't seen a replay showing where they were in when the ball was thrown, but it isn't impossible to think it was a legal play.

Yah I know that but it appeared he was already by the 15 when the pass was thrown.
Jan 4, 2012 10:46pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:48 PM
Tiger2003;1039338 wrote:Yah I know that but it appeared he was already by the 15 when the pass was thrown.

yeah could have been. I only saw it live and whatever replays they showed right when it occurred and didn't really pay attention to that. I kind of thought I remembered them all running towards the ball, but I could be wrong.
Jan 4, 2012 10:48pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:51 PM
Tiger2003;1039327 wrote:Yah it's all good. By the way is that the first time they wore those white jerseys? :)
Haha. No, but did you like the new wings on their helmets? ;)
Jan 4, 2012 10:51pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:52 PM
karen lotz;1039326 wrote:What was the line of scrimmage? I thought the 19 or 20? Linemen can go downfield as soon as the ball crosses the LOS. They also get a 3 yard cushion from the original LOS. That would mean they would have to travel 1-2 yards once the ball crossed the LOS to get to the 15 to catch it. The ball wasn't thrown on a line, and there was plenty of time for even them to take the two steps in that direction required. I haven't seen a replay showing where they were in when the ball was thrown, but it isn't impossible to think it was a legal play.
Yeah it would have been a close one to call. The ball was also tipped back towards the line of scrimmage. It seemed like it was much further downfield than it probably was.
Jan 4, 2012 10:52pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:53 PM
ytownfootball;1039333 wrote:Overall, I think the reason most people aren't sqwuaking about it much is you just never see it. How many times can you think of where a kicker double clutched prior to the snap and made the kick? I mean you see the clucth on bad snaps and holds but never before the snap lol, it's just too fucking odd.
Once I could see. But twice? Just seemed too obvious.
Jan 4, 2012 10:53pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:53 PM
WebFire;1039348 wrote:Haha. No, but did you like the new wings on their helmets? ;)
I do like the addition of the number.
Jan 4, 2012 10:53pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:55 PM
WebFire;1039320 wrote:An OT FG and a converted 1st down that lead to a FG certainly is an impact.
I guess I mean immediate impact. From a TD to a FG attempt.
Jan 4, 2012 10:55pm
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Jan 4, 2012 10:58 PM
And I must go shower. I have complemented Michigan WAY too much in this thread.
Jan 4, 2012 10:58pm
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Jan 4, 2012 11:01 PM
WebFire;1039348 wrote:Haha. No, but did you like the new wings on their helmets? ;)

Yah I aww those wings. Even saw something that looked like numbers. Are they going to get the pride stickers back?
Jan 4, 2012 11:01pm
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Jan 4, 2012 11:02 PM
Tiger2003;1039367 wrote:Yah I aww those wings. Even saw something that looked like numbers. Are they going to get the pride stickers back?
I hope not. I never liked the stickers. I don't mind the numbers.
Jan 4, 2012 11:02pm
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Jan 4, 2012 11:49 PM
WebFire;1039370 wrote:I hope not. I never liked the stickers. I don't mind the numbers.
My feelings exactly. I'll agree with ytown to an extent. Every kicker has a pre kick ritual; tapping heel then toe or something. I WISH that the clip Webbie provided was the same crew from last night.
Jan 4, 2012 11:49pm
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Jan 5, 2012 3:43 AM
Is it me or did both teams not deserve to be in a BCS Bowl
Jan 5, 2012 3:43am
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Jan 5, 2012 9:21 AM
Classyposter58;1039496 wrote:Is it me or did both teams not deserve to be in a BCS Bowl
UM has a BCS Bowl win and OSU was 6-7

/Webfire'd
Jan 5, 2012 9:21am
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Jan 5, 2012 9:49 AM
SportsAndLady;1039576 wrote:UM has a BCS Bowl win and OSU was 6-7

/Webfire'd
UM is the greatest athletic and academic institution there is and ever will be.

/sleeper'd
Jan 5, 2012 9:49am
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Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM
vball10set;1039009 wrote:^^^not through maize and blue glasses it doesn't :p
Reps.
Jan 5, 2012 9:56am
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Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM
WebFire;1039011 wrote:Doesn't through scarlet and gray either. :D
It's not just "Scarlet & Gray" nation either tho. Most of the country thinks it was a rip.
Jan 5, 2012 9:56am
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Jan 5, 2012 9:58 AM
WebFire;1039151 wrote:Yes it was.

That image shows nothing.
Jan 5, 2012 9:58am
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Jan 5, 2012 10:02 AM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1039636 wrote:That image shows nothing.
Other than the ball on the ground. :rolleyes:
Jan 5, 2012 10:02am
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Jan 5, 2012 10:02 AM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1039635 wrote:It's not just "Scarlet & Gray" nation either tho. Most of the country thinks it was a rip.
50/50
Jan 5, 2012 10:02am
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Jan 5, 2012 10:25 AM
This would be a great question for ESPN's SportsNation...I'll shoot Colin an email and see what he thinks ;)
Jan 5, 2012 10:25am