2kool4skool;989794 wrote:lol at the backtracking in this thread.
What's out there that makes you think he might be in deeper than Joe Pa? If Boeheim knew this was going on - he's done. There's some questionable stuff out there from the accusers and a lot of the details that I've seen make it all seem fishy but who knows. Hopefully justice is served. I'm not sure what the truth is at this point. I don't think Boeheim is stupid enough to make a statement like that if he had any inkling as to what was going on as that will surely come back to bite him in the ass in a big way.Azubuike24;989744 wrote:When does the media start jumping on this like they did with Penn State? Boeheim is a hall-of-famer and from some of the stuff out there, he might be in deeper than even Joe Pa was in-terms of what was going on with his knowledge.
Even if he doesn't really "know", he's done. No one to this day knows what Paterno really did, or didn't know. We know he knew a little, but how much we've no idea. There will be a public outcry for Syracuse to clean house, much like they did at Penn State. Paterno and Boeheim are legends in their own regard. People will look and say, "If Penn State did it, Syracuse should do it." and I think that's the way the powers-that-be will look at it as well. I'm not saying it's any worse, or deeper than the Penn State scandal, just that the outcry from the public will be comparable. I don't think Boeheim survives, simply because the university will try and save face.killer_ewok;989857 wrote:What's out there that makes you think he might be in deeper than Joe Pa? If Boeheim knew this was going on - he's done. There's some questionable stuff out there from the accusers and a lot of the details that I've seen make it all seem fishy but who knows. Hopefully justice is served. I'm not sure what the truth is at this point. I don't think Boeheim is stupid enough to make a statement like that if he had any inkling as to what was going on as that will surely come back to bite him in the ass in a big way.
The situation is not as deep as the Penn State one, at least based on what has been reported. However, the relationship between Fine/Boeheim is tight. I have nothing against Boeheim either. I'd hate to see him go down with the ship here but in the grand scheme of things, I'd have no problem with selling out even my best of friends if they were doing this to children. I don't think any of us can pretend to be in his shoes but still...killer_ewok;989857 wrote:What's out there that makes you think he might be in deeper than Joe Pa? If Boeheim knew this was going on - he's done. There's some questionable stuff out there from the accusers and a lot of the details that I've seen make it all seem fishy but who knows. Hopefully justice is served. I'm not sure what the truth is at this point. I don't think Boeheim is stupid enough to make a statement like that if he had any inkling as to what was going on as that will surely come back to bite him in the ass in a big way.
If there are fact-based reports that come out and state that Boeheim knew....I agree that he's done. However, if these accusers end up being as credible as they sound up to this point.....I don't think that he gets axed. We'll see what the investigation yields but at this point I don't think it makes sense to say that Boeheim gets canned no matter what. And I definitely think that this is different from the PSU situation based on the info out there. I mean, if you're still fucking (puke) Bernie Fine (puke) at 27 years of age.....that's not molestation. Why are you still letting Bernie bang when you're a grown damn man???? Just all seems strange.OhioStatePride2003;989873 wrote:Even if he doesn't really "know", he's done. No one to this day knows what Paterno really did, or didn't know. We know he knew a little, but how much we've no idea. There will be a public outcry for Syracuse to clean house, much like they did at Penn State. Paterno and Boeheim are legends in their own regard. People will look and say, "If Penn State did it, Syracuse should do it." and I think that's the way the powers-that-be will look at it as well. I'm not saying it's any worse, or deeper than the Penn State scandal, just that the outcry from the public will be comparable. I don't think Boeheim survives, simply because the university will try and save face.
You'd think the little kids who were anally raped at Penn State would be the most butthurt people in the whole situation. But I think you might be taking the lead with your constant whining.Skyhook79;989827 wrote:I am more amazed at the lack of certain posters who filled up 58 pages on the Penn St scandal thread?
Bernie Fine was sitting on the bench next to Boeheim up until a few weeks ago for 35 years surely he knew something.
Maybe they are all waiting for more information... /sarcasm
| PeteThamelNYT SU: “At the direction of Chancellor Cantor, Bernie Fine’s employment with Syracuse University has been terminated, effective immediately.” 11/27/11 7:44 PM |
I get what you're saying, but the fact that Fine has been terminated doesn't bode well in Boeheim's favor in my opinion. It proves that there is something to the story, some sort of truth. The fact that Boeheim were quick to discredit the accusers kind of made it seem like he was trying way to hard to cover-up for Fine in my opinion. Not saying that everything is true, but no matter if they're sleeping with him now or not, if he did it when they weren't legal, that's against the law.killer_ewok;989889 wrote:If there are fact-based reports that come out and state that Boeheim knew....I agree that he's done. However, if these accusers end up being as credible as they sound up to this point.....I don't think that he gets axed. We'll see what the investigation yields but at this point I don't think it makes sense to say that Boeheim gets canned no matter what. And I definitely think that this is different from the PSU situation based on the info out there. I mean, if you're still ****ing (puke) Bernie Fine (puke) at 27 years of age.....that's not molestation. Why are you still letting Bernie bang when you're a grown damn man???? Just all seems strange.
Agreed, if nothing else Boeheim showed a lack of judgment in the wake of the PSU debacle by speaking out so quickly, publicly and viciously against the complainants. This is what turned the focus on Graham Spanier (and the comments he made were relatively light compared to Boeheim's).....we saw what happened to him.OhioStatePride2003;990053 wrote:I get what you're saying, but the fact that Fine has been terminated doesn't bode well in Boeheim's favor in my opinion. It proves that there is something to the story, some sort of truth. The fact that Boeheim were quick to discredit the accusers kind of made it seem like he was trying way to hard to cover-up for Fine in my opinion. Not saying that everything is true, but no matter if they're sleeping with him now or not, if he did it when they weren't legal, that's against the law.
Mulva;990493 wrote: Especially when Syracuse investigated in 2005 and not 1 person corroborated the claims.
Well ESPN also said they didn't release the tape because nobody else corroborated the claims.Skyhook79;990516 wrote:ESPN had the taped conversation in 2003 I think that would have been corroboration. Interesting it took ESPN 8 years to release the tape.
I did that on this thread as well, posting a YouTube link to the opening theme song for The Apprentice. Fortunately for me, this is an anonymous message board for sports chat.jordo212000 wrote: Boeheim came out and did the exact opposite. He just blistered the accusers and called them liars. Behavior like this is why people are afraid to come forward
Mulva;990545 wrote:Well ESPN also said they didn't release the tape because nobody else corroborated the claims.
The whole story is confusing as hell. Too worried to tell Fine to stop molesting him until he turned 27, not too worried to fuck Fine's wife and then tell him about it when he's 18?