Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Nov 9, 2011 8:48am
Has any of that actually been proven?Tiernan;964534 wrote:^
As many others have already said...of course he knew everything in 1998...we now know that is clearly why Sandusky "retired". And we also now know another incident in 2002 was again swept under the rug without any law enforcement or child services contact made. JoePa is clearly culpable of allowing child molestation to continually occur in his community. He must go immediately and unfortunately his complete body of work is now forever stained by heinous incidents that he didn't personally commit, but could heve personally prevented and chose not to do so.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 9, 2011 8:51am
Yes. No one at Penn St. tried to identify the victim in the '02 rape. The Penn St. brass (including JoePa) testified to that.Tobias Fünke;964536 wrote:Has any of that actually been proven?
Again, taking the best possible light of the allegations, at best they all need to lose their jobs.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 9, 2011 8:56am
Yes It Has...that clear nough for ya?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Nov 9, 2011 9:16am
How come no one mentions Sandusky's wife? Of all people shouldn't she have known what was going on? A lot of the alleged attacks occurred in the basement of their home, yet Paterno was suppose to know everything that was going on at the Campus of Penn St? What about his 6 adopted children, surely they might be aware of what was going on. Why no mention of them? Too many unanswered questions for me to string up Joe Pa just yet.
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alwaysawarrior
Posts: 53
Nov 9, 2011 9:19am
Maybe his wife is morally accountable, we don't know though that she was told what was going on, so we are waiting to hear her side. Paterno however admitted it was reported to him and did the minimum that was LEGALLY required. That officially makes him scum.Skyhook79;964578 wrote:How come no one mentions Sandusky's wife? Of all people shouldn't she have known what was going on? A lot of the alleged attacks occurred in the basement of their home, yet Paterno was suppose to know everything that was going on at the Campus of Penn St? What about his 6 adopted children, surely they might be aware of what was going on. Why no mention of them? Too many unanswered questions for me to string up Joe Pa just yet.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Nov 9, 2011 9:30am
dat dude;964324 wrote:I'm curious as to what the Paterno apologists have to say about the fact that Sandusky was still using the lockeroom last week despite the fact McQueary, THE CURRENT RECRUITING COORDINATOR, testified before the grand jury in DECEMBER of 2010. How is that excusable?? Are you telling me Paterno didn't know about McQueary's testimony?
Good call.2kool4skool;964329 wrote:Good question that is sure to be dodged.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 9, 2011 9:48am
I understand the points from both sides of the argument, however it seems quite a few posters on here are criticizing JoePA and PSU for all the wrong reasons.
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alwaysawarrior
Posts: 53
Nov 9, 2011 9:50am
Then please tell us why they should be criticized?like_that;964641 wrote:I understand the points from both sides of the argument, however it seems quite a few posters on here are criticizing JoePA and PSU for all the wrong reasons.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Nov 9, 2011 9:54am
ESPN is reporting former PA Governor and Homeland Security leader Tom Ridge will be announced as the new President of Penn State.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 9, 2011 9:55am
He gone
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 9, 2011 9:55am
JoePa that is, after the season
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Nov 9, 2011 9:55am
Mike & Mike just said Paterno is retiring at the end of the season, per an AP alert.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 9, 2011 9:57am
ESPN just reported but at the end of the season?? Needs to be today dammit!
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 9, 2011 9:57am
Tom Rinaldi will interview him at 1 today.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Nov 9, 2011 10:04am
I think PSU is really screwing up here by letting him finish the season.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Nov 9, 2011 10:06am
Makes sense he is in his last year of his contract.enigmaax;964660 wrote:Mike & Mike just said Paterno is retiring at the end of the season, per an AP alert.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 9, 2011 10:07am
I think maybe let him coach (run out on the field one last time) this Saturday for senior day and then show him the door. I wouldn't be surprised if he announced after Saturdays game he was done.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Nov 9, 2011 10:07am
What about Big Red? How the heck can he conitnue to be a coach on this football team?
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 9, 2011 10:25am
Go back and read the GJ report: Paterno testifies that MM told him what was going on in the shower was SEXUAL. Yet now Paterno is saying, "I was fooled". How does that jive? Especially with the 1998 incident and the quick retirement forced on Sandusky. Paterno obviously knew about that as well. Do you think Paterno is stupid now and wouldn't put the two things together?Skyhook79;964578 wrote:How come no one mentions Sandusky's wife? Of all people shouldn't she have known what was going on? A lot of the alleged attacks occurred in the basement of their home, yet Paterno was suppose to know everything that was going on at the Campus of Penn St? What about his 6 adopted children, surely they might be aware of what was going on. Why no mention of them? Too many unanswered questions for me to string up Joe Pa just yet.
As for the wife: there are countless examples of children being molested in their own homes and the women being enablers (by denying what's happening). It's pretty common. And it also has nothing to do with what Paterno knew...that part is already clear from his own and MM's testimony.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 9, 2011 10:29am
Anyone that post support for JoPa without reading the GJ report is on crack!
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Nov 9, 2011 10:30am
Keep in mind, Paterno himself is retiring on his own after the season. That is not the school's final decision. They could still shit can him anytime.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 9, 2011 10:58am
Travesty of multitudinal dimension if Paterno allowed to "retire" on his own terms.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Nov 9, 2011 12:18pm
maybe he got out before they start trying to link the disappearnce of prosecutor Ray Gricar to this scandal?
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 9, 2011 12:24pm
Also want to tell me that after the alleged incidents and after Sandusky retired he and JoPa never hung out? Never sat in an office together, each others homes, lunch, coffee, etc...?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Nov 9, 2011 12:35pm
IDK, do you know that he did for sure?Fab1b;964876 wrote:Also want to tell me that after the alleged incidents and after Sandusky retired he and JoPa never hung out? Never sat in an office together, each others homes, lunch, coffee, etc...?