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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jan 18, 2015 12:30pm
gosh a ruddies, I am sure you will continue your efforts to mitigate the deserved punishment for the facilitators of child rape.HitsRus;1697498 wrote:Isadore...I get it that you don't get it.
Carry on with your vindictiveness against the innocents.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jan 18, 2015 2:11pm
gosh a ruddies joe jr., you have been arguing through the whole thread to get your dad off the hook for his ignoring the rape of children to save his program and reputation. And now you want the same for the institution that made it all possible.lhslep134;1697486 wrote:Hits, it's not worth your effort to show isadore how intellectually infantile his argument is, because he's either incapable of realizing it or too stubborn to.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 18, 2015 2:38pm
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jan 18, 2015 2:52pm
Gosh a ruddies, everyone is entitled to their opinion including the morally challenged such as yourself, joe jr.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 18, 2015 3:02pm
You're not giving an opinion you're besmirching logic.
Notice how the only opinion I've given on the matter is that nothing can "un-tarnish his legacy". That doesn't make me Joe Jr., which brings me to my next point: the rest of my posts have only been pointing out the egregious logical fallacies and lingual idiocy permeating your posts.
Notice how the only opinion I've given on the matter is that nothing can "un-tarnish his legacy". That doesn't make me Joe Jr., which brings me to my next point: the rest of my posts have only been pointing out the egregious logical fallacies and lingual idiocy permeating your posts.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jan 18, 2015 3:15pm
Your case we see proof of the Biblical truth, “none are so blind as those who will not see.’
Through the last few pages of the thread, you have been presented with information and iron clad analogies proving that Penn State is richly deserving of punishment. Through 64 pages of this thread you have consistently tried to excuse the depraved indifference your dad showed in Sandusky's reign of terror toward the children of central Pennsylvania. And your attempt to mitigate the guilt of the University that sheltered both of them.
Through the last few pages of the thread, you have been presented with information and iron clad analogies proving that Penn State is richly deserving of punishment. Through 64 pages of this thread you have consistently tried to excuse the depraved indifference your dad showed in Sandusky's reign of terror toward the children of central Pennsylvania. And your attempt to mitigate the guilt of the University that sheltered both of them.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Jan 18, 2015 6:49pm
Hits...yes everyone knows who really won those games no matter if they are official or not. But trust me if the damn NCAA doesn't reinstate them, everytime someone talks about all-time wins the story of child sexual abuse also gets told and is never forgotten. Paterno was complicit and his legacy needs to reflect that in the most penaltied way possible. And his family needs to suffer too since he pussied out and died on us.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 18, 2015 8:08pm
^^^I don't really care either way except to say that the players who won those games should be credited with the wins, Paterno be damned. Regardless, Penn State and Paterno will always be associated with the child sex abuse scandal, in the same way James Rhodes and Kent state are forever tied to the shootings there.
I am less sure about his family needing to suffer additionally, not knowing how they fit into all of this. I would surmise that the pain and humiliation of having their once revered father disgraced and associated with such an ignominious scandal would be enough.
I am less sure about his family needing to suffer additionally, not knowing how they fit into all of this. I would surmise that the pain and humiliation of having their once revered father disgraced and associated with such an ignominious scandal would be enough.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jan 19, 2015 4:14am
Agreed. Anyone that doesn't believe JoePa covered up, or at the very minimum, turned a blind eye to these terrible crimes is guilty of having an IQ the equivalent of room temperature.Midstate01;1697156 wrote:This was from a PSU message board.
The thing that gets me is that PSU people always say Paterno wasn't obligated by Pennsylvania law to do more. So what that doesn't mean he shouldn't have. They also say it didn't happen while they he was a coach there. We'll actually it did... and even after he wasn't coaching they gave the guy an office. And you know he had access to the facilities.
It's just sick that they defend him the way they do.
Ohhhhh and PSU sports are wearing 409 patches on their unis to support him. DISGUSTING.
Agreedlhslep134;1697159 wrote:I'm okay with them restoring his wins because that doesn't do anything to un-tarnish his legacy.
lhslep134;1697536 wrote:You're not giving an opinion you're besmirching logic.
Notice how the only opinion I've given on the matter is that nothing can "un-tarnish his legacy". That doesn't make me Joe Jr., which brings me to my next point: the rest of my posts have only been pointing out the egregious logical fallacies and lingual idiocy permeating your posts.
I have been absent for almost a year from the OC until the past month, but I didn't realize people actually still argued with Isadore. He/she is the biggest troll on here and isn't worth arguing with.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 19, 2015 8:50am
I still have a problem with Paterno selling recruits on the university being first class when he's hiding a pedo crime involving one of his coaches. Is there anyone that doesn't think football recruiting may have been different if this was public knowledge? Obviously we'll never know, but IMO that's where the NCAA had a case.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jan 19, 2015 11:06am
I don't disagree with you, but couldn't you apply that logic to almost every ncaa penalty ever levied? They typically punish the school once everyone else has moved on.HitsRus;1697497 wrote:Paterno is hardly clean in this incident, but all the parties responsible for this deplorable incident have been removed/punished to the limits the law allows.
I agree with you on the taking away wins/bowl bans/schollies ...especially moving forward. Enough has been heaped on the innocent.
Tiernan is upset that they restored Joe Paterno's wins.....but think of it this way.....they also restored the wins of those college athletes that also earned those wins and did nothing wrong, but to have played for Penn State.
Joe Paterno won more college football games than anyone in history....that's a fact. Sure the NCAA can take away the wins and the #2 guy can be called the coach who won the most games....but there will always be an asterisk no matter which way it is noted. The truth is that Paterno won those games, and that won't change just because we view him as complicit with Sandusky or if he had gone out and shot up a bus of children with an AK-47.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 19, 2015 11:29am
Yes but not anywhere to the extent of this overreach... Hence the settlement.
Also, not a fan of the NCAA here.... Not... At ... All.
Also, not a fan of the NCAA here.... Not... At ... All.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jan 19, 2015 6:06pm
WebFire;1697793 wrote:I still have a problem with Paterno selling recruits on the university being first class when he's hiding a pedo crime involving one of his coaches. Is there anyone that doesn't think football recruiting may have been different if this was public knowledge? Obviously we'll never know, but IMO that's where the NCAA had a case.
Good point, it is a thought that should be explored.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jan 19, 2015 9:53pm
gosh a ruddies, it is sad, you have never been a source for exploration.dwccrew;1697982 wrote:Good point, it is a thought that should be explored.