Manhattan Buckeye;964233 wrote:I don't claim to be a leader or legend, but if I hear from a 3rd year associate that she witnessed a senior partner engaging in improper behavior with a minor in the restroom, I don't just let it go. Even if it costs me my job.

ccrunner609;964229 wrote:Not illegal but immoral..........even worse in this case. His silence on the matter is deafening. His lack of leadership in this matter tells me that he feels like sodemy of little kids is ok, raping little boys in "HIS" locker room is just fine for him.

We don't know what Paterno was told or if McQueary is covering his ass, and we don't know what the AD told Paterno after the investigation.

If he did nothing and knew full well what was going on, then yeah burn him at the stake. BUT, we don't know that for sure yet and I'm not about to want the guy who was known as the cleanest coach ever to resign until I know those two things.

2kool4skool;964006 wrote:It goes both ways, you can believe someon growing marijuana doesn't deserve 5 years in prison, just as you can believe someone who covers for a child molester, resulting in more children being raped, deserves further punishment than being allowed to resign from his job and live out his years comfortably with his millions.

Sure it goes both ways. That doesn't make it any less crazy to espouse that belief. You can say Paterno should be locked up and sodomized, and I could argue that Sandusky should be sentenced to 3 years maximum (Please don't spin my hypothetical argument here because I'm not arguing that at all). They're both completely ridiculous and extreme views, albeit on opposite ends of the spectrum.

You can argue that he deserves anything you want, but that doesn't make it rational to do so.

Also, there's no evidence he covered anything up. There's a big difference between going to your superiors, as recommended by law, and doing nothing at all or actively impeding an investigation. There would also be a big difference, in my opinion, between witnessing something first hand and simply reporting it up the line and hearing a possibly watered-down version of events after the fact and doing the same. You can believe whatever you want, but the evidence supporting actively covering something up vs. simply passing the buck isn't there.

If reports come out that he did aid Sandusky in any way or that he did deliberately withhold information then he should be charged with any law that may be applicable, but for now I'm going to believe an extremely thorough 2-3 year investigation over the people flying off the handle without all of the information. And that investigation charged 2 of his "superiors", refused to comment on whether potential charges would be forthcoming for the university president, but unequivocally cleared Joe Paterno.

Yes JoPa is a public official. I fucking hope Sandusky dies a slow painful death, that help? This is about what the admin knew and didn't do and it starts with JoPa! I don't think JoPa should be in jail but he shouldn't be a coach of anything nor should anyone on his staff then or PSU's admin then, nothing with children as they have already displayed that they will not protect them from harm!

ccrunner609;964243 wrote:on the interweb.....no not really. THis is all fake.

In real life, I am morally sound.

Yeah...right.

ccrunner609;964245 wrote:Someone was fucking little boys is "HIS" locker room. If you think he didnt know you are a baffoon.

Do you know everything that goes on at YOUR school?

Tobias Fünke;964240 wrote:We don't know what Paterno was told or if McQueary is covering his ass, and we don't know what the AD told Paterno after the investigation.If he did nothing and knew full well what was going on, then yeah burn him at the stake. BUT, we don't know that for sure yet and I'm not about to want the guy who was known as the cleanest coach ever to resign until I know those two things.

Yeah we do. Read the report. They admit to being told about the 2002 events the grad assistant witnessed.

So let me get this straight.

Autographs for Tattoos - NCAA probation and possible more?

Sex with 10 year old boys - nothing?

Mulva;964242 wrote:You can argue that he deserves anything you want, but that doesn't make it rational to do so.

lol so what is the maximum that he can deserve "rationally." A dignified resignation and retirement?

There would also be a big difference, in my opinion, between witnessing something first hand and simply reporting it up the line and hearing a possibly watered-down version of events after the fact and doing the same.

Oh, is that what we're going to believe happened now? Just keep me updated so I know which excuse Paterno defenders are using. First, it was authorities are "commending" him for his cooperation(lol) now it's McQueary is lying about what he told him because......well that parts not important.

If he simply passed the buck and did no sort of follow up, he's a slime ball. If he covered up, he's an even bigger slime ball. Great options there lol.

Tobias Fünke;964240 wrote:BUT, we don't know that for sure yet and I'm not about to want the guy who was known as the cleanest coach ever to resign until I know those two things.

Dude it's worthless. These hypocrites have no patience to hear what Joe Pa has to say. The same people who wanted everyone to hear Tressel's side are the one's calling for Joe Pa's head without anything as much as a statement.

Skyhook79;964250 wrote:Do you know everything that goes on at YOUR school?

Do you honestly believe that Paterno was not aware of TWO incidents (1998 and 2002) where people witnessed Sandusky in the shower with a child, committing sexual acts; incidents that were reported to campus police? Really?

If so, then why was Sandusky "retired" by Paterno in 1999? He wasn't old enough, and was still a great defensive coach, yet he suddenly "retires" after he's seen molesting a child in a shower. Do you really believe Paterno had no say in any of that?

Honestly, the people defending Paterno right now are totally ignoring the facts. Two incidents, both reported to campus police, one of which we know was directly reported to Paterno.

Do you believe Paterno is an idiot? Don't you think he had it all figured out about Sandusky when he "retired" him in 1999 or is that just a coincidence too?

Good God people, use the common sense and the brains you were given. Read the GJ report and ask yourself this question: who gains by these incidents not being reported? Who is hurt if they are?

lhslep134;964264 wrote:Dude it's worthless. These clowns have no patience to hear what Joe Pa has to say. The same people who wanted everyone to hear Tressel's side are the one's calling for Joe Pa's head without anything as much as a statement.

Truly pathetic and embarrassing for you hypocrites.

Check yourself Tier 3 boy. Some of us know a little bit about law, and a bit more about morals, and even more about how things will turn out.

If Paterno had a statement he would have made it on Saturday. They are in CYA mode.

And I don't appreciate being called a clown, Tier 3 boy.

Writerbuckeye;964268 wrote:
Good God people, use the common sense and the brains you were given.

And give the guy his day in the court of public opinion. Isn't that the same sort of sentiment you argued for Tressel? Lulz

I'm not getting into an irrelevant pissing match about law schools Manhattan, but thanks for showing your maturity.

You're a clown because you refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that Joe Pa knew less than he did by crucifying him. Sorry, but logically that doesn't square.

Anyone that has to mention OSU's troubles and what Tress did or didn't do or the call for support or nonsupport along with PSU's situation is disgusting! OSU's or any school, Miami, USC, Auburn, etc....doesn't compare to PSU in any shape or form, nor does any other situation in sports that has ever happened! This is the most heinous thing ever in sports!

2kool4skool;963923 wrote:What do you believe is the exact right punishment for Paterno?

His punishment will be to die a pitiful, lonely old man shorty after being shown the door.

Manhattan Buckeye;964270 wrote:Check yourself Tier 3 boy. Some of us know a little bit about law, and a bit more about morals, and even more about how things will turn out.If Paterno had a statement he would have made it on Saturday. They are in CYA mode.And I don't appreciate being called a clown, Tier 3 boy.

Lol tier three! This thread is going Devolve quickly...

Big Gain;964274 wrote:His punishment will be to die a pitiful, lonely old man shorty after being shown the door.

True. Going to be funny to watch his senile ass stumble and mumble his way through the "retirement" press conference. Hopefully the shame the Paterno name now carries can serve as a consolation, however small, for those that were raped because he did nothing.

lhslep134;964272 wrote:I'm not getting into an irrelevant pissing match about law schools Manhattan, but thanks for showing your maturity.

You're a clown because you refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that Joe Pa knew less than he did by crucifying him. Sorry, but logically that doesn't square.

You've already got yourself in one by calling me a clown.

I'm going to repeat my stance on the issue:

1) JoePa knew he had a monster on his hands and did nothing, or

2) JoePa is a complete idiot that needed to retire years ago.

Neither deserves to coach at PSU again.

Even a Cooley student could understand this.

lhslep134;964271 wrote:And give the guy his day in the court of public opinion. Isn't that the same sort of sentiment you argued for Tressel? Lulz

You really want to compare child rape and a coach covering it up with a coach lying to the NCAA about selling merchandise for tats?

Really?

SMH

OSU's troubles will be a footnote in the record books. What's happening with Paterno and PSU will be in the news for years and permanently damage the reputations of both the coaches who participated in this whitewash and the university for having been so insular it didn't know how to deal with a pedophile.

Skyhook79;964227 wrote:JoePa is a Public official? Whats amazing to me is the absolute hatred for Joe Paterno and hardly any mention of the man who actually committed the acts.

Because it goes without saying, and his punishment is not up in the air.

I just don't know what to say anymore.RT @spisupati12 @DailyCollegianQuote:at the joe pa statue. Got about 200 people singing "don't stop believing"

Writerbuckeye;964282 wrote:You really want to compare child rape and a coach covering it up with a coach lying to the NCAA about selling merchandise for tats?

I want to talk about giving the other side their f**king chance you hypocrite. You criticized EVERYONE who jumped on Tressel right away, and now you're jumping on Joe Pa right away. In this sense, severity is irrelevant. You are hypocrisy at it's FINEST.