lhslep134;964167 wrote:Not you, other people.

chippblue wrote:Joe "hey Jerry what is going on?"
Jerry "well Joe I am raping kids in your shower why do you ask?"
Oh yea I guess it would have been that simple (sarcasm)

ytownfootball;963939 wrote:Not that I've read/heard but what would they say to make anything better/worse?

Penn State is on an island right now and there isn't anything anyone can say or do to change that...they effed up huge here and it needs to play out without interference from any source.

reclegend22;964072 wrote:Some of us really need to take a step back, remove ourselves from the situation for at least a few moments, and then stop calling for the rape of Joe Paterno. Think about what some of you are saying. It's completely ill-thought-out and ridiculous. Those talking anything about sentencing Joe Paterno to homosexual purgatory are foolish and sound incredibly creepy in their own right, and should simply stop.

Matt Millen, although overcome with great anger and shame with regard to the actions transpiring at his university, shed a voice of reason today. As sad and reprehensible a situation as this is, Joe Paterno deserves to have his side of the story fully heard and given the same thoughtful consideration as the stories of everyone else involved in this unfortunate case. Despite what some here are alleging, Paterno has repeatedly denied that he was ever aware of anything sexual happening between Sandusky and anyone, and reiterated that message during an emotional meeting with his players on Monday. He says he didn't know. And, until otherwise proven, I will go out on a "thin branch" and believe the word of the man who, until this week, was regarded by virtually everyone as the most respected and upstanding sports coach in the history of American athletics. I think Millen said it best when he stated that we just can't know what Paterno was actually told, or how marginalized the story might have become by the time it reached the Nittony Lion head coach. It is simply one man's word versus another.

Think about it for a moment. Consider the idea that Paterno is lying through his teeth and that he actually knew. Why would a man who has coached and taught for over six decades at a school he so dearly loves and whose legacy he basically built, an institution in which he has served for well over half a century carving a legacy of achievement, strong moral principal and a demand for doing things the right way, all-of-a-sudden throw all of that away in order to allow his linebacker coach to use the Penn State shower room as his lair to have intercourse with prepubescent children? Give me a damn break.

Con_Alma;964109 wrote:They were friends outside of football. Any normal person would have asked his friend what the hell was going on.

Manhattan Buckeye;964182 wrote:Either Paterno is a child predator enabler or the biggest moron on the planet. Neither deserve to coach a team.

Manhattan Buckeye;964182 wrote:Exactly. This had been happening for so long and likely resulted in Sandusky not being the future head coach, and his resignation.

reclegend22;964072 wrote:Despite what some here are alleging, Paterno has repeatedly denied that he was ever aware of anything sexual happening between Sandusky and anyone, and reiterated that message during an emotional meeting with his players on Monday.

Why would a man who has coached and taught for over six decades at a school he so dearly loves and whose legacy he basically built, an institution in which he has served for well over half a century carving a legacy of achievement, strong moral principal and a demand for doing things the right way, all-of-a-sudden throw all of that away in order to allow his linebacker coach to use the Penn State shower room as his lair to have intercourse with prepubescent children? Give me a damn break.

Tobias Fünke;964187 wrote:Those are the only two scenarios, really? I can think of more.

If either of those are true, he will be gone. Let's wait until he speaks.

ccrunner609;964196 wrote:PSU is a joke......they have known rapists coaching, they have a 84 year old joke of a coach that hasnt "coached" a game for 10+ years that now holds the record.

lhslep134;964192 wrote:You mean the fact that it was reported at earliest 1998, he was gone in 1999, and most of these were reported AFTER he was no longer a coach. I think your timeline is a little off there...

Tobias Fünke;964180 wrote:THIS.

I find a huge amount of hypocrisy in guys like writerbuckeye who were (rightfully) screaming at people for jumping to conclusions before due process with Ohio State but aren't here. For the record, I'm not suggesting in any way that these are equal.

Sandusky isn't raping anyone anymore. We can afford to give Joe Paterno the time he is due to explain his side of the story before we crucify him. We owe him, and anyone really, that much at the very least.

lhslep134;964208 wrote:Manhattan you had said it had been going on a long time and that was why he wasn't considered for future head coach. But he was let go shortly after it had come out, so how could you say it affected him being named future head coach? That's all I'm saying.

Fab1b;964207 wrote:I don't owe any one shit! He is a public official! He knew what are some of you thinking? Read the damn PDF. Paterno freaking knew of at the very least the 2002 incident in the shower. He in my mind had to know of the 98 allegation and there is no way that wasn't the reason for Sandusky's retirement. Look I like JoPa and he did wonders for college football and probably thousands of young men however so far the now 9 victims he let down and so far that's 9 too many!

Manhattan Buckeye;964203 wrote:1) The timeline is the key. Why do you think Sandusky retired unexpectedly?

2) The fact that most of the reports are after Paterno/PSU knew they had a monster on their hands makes them look worse.

Manhattan Buckeye;964197 wrote:I can't. If he's the leader he claimed to be he should have ended this.

Why isn't he speaking now, instead of hiding behind his dumba$$ lawyer son that doesn't understand criminal law?

ccrunner609;964219 wrote:ESPN reported that he was doing this for over a decade.......I assume they meant he was doing it while coaching.

Tobias Fünke;964201 wrote:How long did Sandusky coach while he was raping kids?And how the fuck do you know that he hasn't "coached" in 10+ years? FWIW, all he would have to do is say how much they run each practice and he already coaches as much as any Cross Country coach.

Fab1b;964207 wrote:I don't owe any one shit! He is a public official! He knew what are some of you thinking? Read the damn PDF. Paterno freaking knew of at the very least the 2002 incident in the shower. He in my mind had to know of the 98 allegation and there is no way that wasn't the reason for Sandusky's retirement. Look I like JoPa and he did wonders for college football and probably thousands of young men however so far the now 9 victims he let down and so far that's 9 too many!

Tobias Fünke;964221 wrote:"You know what they say about assuming right?" Isn't that a phrase teachers use often?

Skyhook79;964227 wrote:JoePa is a Public official? Whats amazing to me is the absolute hatred for Joe Paterno and hardly any mention of the man who actually committed the acts.

ccrunner609;964229 wrote:Not illegal but immoral..........even worse in this case. His silence on the matter is deafening. His lack of leadership in this matter tells me that he feels like sodemy of little kids is ok, raping little boys in "HIS" locker room is just fine for him.