Midstate01;963618 wrote:Psu fans I know, are in complete denial. They think joe pa did everything right. They think urban Meyer is there next coach... Because they said his daughter goes to school there. WHEN SHE DOESN'T. They think the osu scandal is way worse. It's unreal!! But one of my close buddies who's a psu fan and has 4 young boys thinks that everyone should be fired and that they are all disgusting.

Do we know each other?

From twitter...

Jason McIntyre

Wow: Joe Paterno had a team meeting Monday, told the players HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT JERRY SANDUSKY, everything came as a surprise to him ... asst coach McQueary was "distraught" and told his players he might be gone before Saturday's game." That's what Kim Jones of Yes (in Happy Valley) just said on WFAN radio

Writerbuckeye;963615 wrote:Grand juries meet in secret. No trial. It's only after they're done and indictments are issued that details get released.

Apparently this has been going on since March.

I thought I read somewhere that Paterno testified 11 months ago, so it might be even longer than that.

karen lotz;963633 wrote:From twitter...

Jason McIntyre

unless he's senile (which is possible) this is a lie

So...alums are now burning their diplomas in front of Penn State's main building and a crowd is gathering outside of Joe Pa's house.


Gregg Doyle is standing in the woods behind the house.

I heard on another board that PSU wants Paterno out immediately, but the lawyers have to get involved to work out contract stuff.

the media, and ESPN in particular, should have a field day with this on the 19th

I understand the attorney's have taken over at this point but I think they, the University, needs to talk to the students and alumni. Some reassurances of need to be explained with regards to their stance of being appalled and willing to get to the bottom of things with a full cooperation.

karen lotz;963669 wrote:So...alums are now burning their diplomas in front of Penn State's main building and a crowd is gathering outside of Joe Pa's house.


Gregg Doyle is standing in the woods behind the house.

Wow...

Make sure you guys get your Lions Pride gear on the banner displayed at top of thread LOL

Mulva;963640 wrote:I thought I read somewhere that Paterno testified 11 months ago, so it might be even longer than that.

The investigation has been on going for 3 years. Grand Jury's can be convened put on hold and reconvened.

Who burns their diploma? I mean, I busted my ass for 4 years to get that.

I get that its only a piece of paper, and you can't take away my education. But its symbolic of my PERSONAL accomplishments.

A corrupt and disgusting football program doesn't change that.

Writerbuckeye;963612 wrote:I love comparing what JT did to a guy who covered for a child molester for years. Yeah, JT is a real scumbag in that scenario. :rolleyes:

Ohio State = Football players sell their own stuff and get discounted or free tats. The coach finds out and and does nothing about it. The trustees ask the coach to retire, he retires.

Penn State = Child molestation by an assistant coach is ongoing for 15 years. Head coach knows and does nothing to stop the molester. Trustees ask coach to step down, he refuses.

chicago510;963734 wrote:Who burns their diploma? I mean, I busted my ass for 4 years to get that.

I get that its only a piece of paper, and you can't take away my education. But its symbolic of my PERSONAL accomplishments.

A corrupt and disgusting football program doesn't change that.

Well, you can get another one if you call the school for a nominal fee... so maybe it's not that big of a deal?

chicago510;963734 wrote:Who burns their diploma? I mean, I busted my ass for 4 years to get that.

I get that its only a piece of paper, and you can't take away my education. But its symbolic of my PERSONAL accomplishments.

A corrupt and disgusting football program doesn't change that.

More than just the football program. University president and another administrator involved along with who knows who else.

Midstate01;963618 wrote:Psu fans I know, are in complete denial. They think joe pa did everything right. They think urban Meyer is there next coach... Because they said his daughter goes to school there. WHEN SHE DOESN'T. They think the osu scandal is way worse. It's unreal!! But one of my close buddies who's a psu fan and has 4 young boys thinks that everyone should be fired and that they are all disgusting.

I'm on a business trip in Washington DC surrounded by a bunch of Penn State and Maryland alums. I thought that most PSU alums were very shocked and outraged over this at first...I'm not so sure if I think that anymore. Many of my cohorts at this meeting that went to Penn State have said something along the lines of 'I don't see why the media is so interested in Paterno, he did everything he could do...' or something akin to that. I've held my tongue most of the time.

This scandal is slowly ruining Penn State. Not just the football program. The Entire university. I feel awful for anyone with ties to Penn State and even moreso for the ones that can't even comprehend how bad this is for their university when they say things like what's above.

Herbie being interviewed on ESPN right now, he looks very distraught. I think most are right now. Good interview, though. You can tell that this situation is incredibly awful. It is one of those times that in one breath you wish none of it never happened but in the next breath know that it needs to be uncovered now that it has. Justice must be done and no person connected to this should be spared because of a tenured coaching career en route to that justice.

Crimson streak;963368 wrote:My guess was the higher ups told paterno to keep his mouth shut or he's gone.

Yeah, this seems completely logical.....

Seriously, let's just stop with the desperate excuse-making. Paterno, along with many others, were either negligent or helped cover up a man anally raping young boys. Enough said.

Crimson streak;963589 wrote:The Washington post needs to stfu.

Washington Post is completely right. Let all current players transfer if they want with no repercussion. Fire every member of the coaching staff, shut it down for a couple years while you hire a a new staff(of people you're confident won't cover up child rape this time) and start again in 2013 with new recruits and whichever players decided to stay.

chicago510;963512 wrote:If I'm Joe, I say screw you Spanier, I have to stay something as the most respected man in this University.

lol

SportsAndLady;963540 wrote:Will the fans boo their legendary coach?

If they have any perspective, and decency as human beings; yes.

karen lotz;963739 wrote:More than just the football program. University president and another administrator involved along with who knows who else.

Agreed. If this happened at OSU, I wouldn't want my name associated in any way, no matter how minor, until a true effort was made to make things right(or as right as they could be.) That currently hasn't happened at all.

I applaud any PSU fan being clear headed enough to realize their once hero is the scum of the earth. Too many people(as we've seen) with tinted glasses on. For instance....

Mulva;961666 wrote:1. Prosecutors have stated he isn't suspected of anything, and have actually lauded his assistance/cooperation
2. Criminally, according to a yahoo article, failure to report has a maximum sentence of 3 months, but that's irrelevant anyway because he immediately reported what he was told to his superior. So now you're saying a senior citizen who committed no crime should be locked up and sodomized.
3. Paterno stated that what he was told by the grad assistant was nowhere near the level or specifics of what was reported in the grand jury report, and none of us know what he did or didn't actually know.

lol

2kool4skool;963757 wrote:Yeah, this seems completely logical.....

Seriously, let's just stop with the desperate excuse-making. Paterno, along with many others, were either negligent or helped cover up a man anally raping young boys. Enough said.

Let's also keep in mind that Crimson is talking about the same two men telling Paterno to shut up that were the same two men who were allegedly kicked out of Paterno's house and told to shove it when they tried to fire him in 2004. If that story is true, trying to paint a picture where they told him to do anything is a major reach.

Stolen:

They call an old woman chasing young men a cougar. They call an old man doing the same thing a Nittany Lion. Too soon?

dtdtim;963759 wrote:Let's also keep in mind that Crimson is talking about the same two men telling Paterno to shut up that were the same two men who were allegedly kicked out of Paterno's house and told to shove it when they tried to fire him in 2004. If that story is true, trying to paint a picture where they told him to do anything is a major reach.

Exactly. To act like Paterno was beaten into submission to cover up for his friend is laughable. And the entire attitude of looking for reasons to justify Paterno's actions by people like crimson is completely and totally pathetic.

enigmaax;963760 wrote:Stolen:

They call an old woman chasing young men a cougar. They call an old man doing the same thing a Nittany Lion. Too soon?

I felt bad for laughing at that.

2kool, did you get raped by someone as a young boy?

If this is the end of Paterno at PSU he'll be dead within a year. They guy has nothing but football and once that's gone its over for him. Even if this hadn't come to light, he's wasn't going to be around long after he left coaching.

SportsAndLady;963776 wrote:2kool, did you get raped by someone as a young boy?

What an odd question. I'd be curious what prompted it?

queencitybuckeye;963790 wrote:What an odd question. I'd be curious what prompted it?

He just seems very, very upset at Joe Pa lol like, wants to see him get raped because of what happened..kinda weird