Little Danny;962708 wrote:If I am a parent of a Penn State football player, I would seriously consider not letting my son play the rest of the season until action is taken. I would have to think there are other parents who feel the same way and if a big enough statement is made, the university would no choice but to do something.

Its not as if Sandusky was drinking a beer in the locker rooms or smoking pot with the players. Is there anything on this planet more reprehensible than his acts?

Sandusky gave one of his "little boys" $50 to buy marijuana.

Fab1b;962740 wrote:^no way do I see that happening! The current players will do nothing of the sort and either will their parents and they shouldn't have too. Just like the NCAA punishing future classes for coach and player wrong doings in the past, this would be the same, punishing themselves! The Alumni and boosters are the ones that could get this resolved and quickly! Stop the cash flow and it will change!

I've only seen one of the currently players asked a question. He said he doesn't think any of this is true.

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Head in the sand syndrome. PSU is now Pedi State University.

I am an Ohio state fan and havent got my head around this yet .Unbeleivable. I need more facts .. My first thought are .. Why didnt the man who witnessed this happenening also report it to police ... and then .. Why didnt the admin report it to police .. Paterno is kind of caught in the middle of this mess.. Im more worried about the young kids that may now become predators because these no good administrators tried to sweep it under the rug .. Total shame .. I always loved Joe Pa ..He is an icon like Woody .. i just dont know enough yet to condem him .. its a sad day .. another one in my favorite sport college football

karen lotz;959300 wrote:Joe Pa was told directly by a grad assistant who saw Sandusky ****ing the kid in the ass IN PENN STATE'S LOCKERROOM SHOWERS.

I dont know what was exactly said to Paterno .. Im not sure the grad assistant said exactly what he saw because he was distraught..but he may have .. i think I heard somebody say Paterno said he didnt get the gory details of the incident , just that there was miscoduct ,which could have been fondling..... I think I may have gone into the showers and tried to kill the SOB

Sykotyk;962628 wrote:I may have scarlet-colored glasses on.... but if Tressel is forced out for covering up memorabilia selling, then JoePa gets ****-canned for covering up CHILD MOLESTATION THAT HAPPENED IN PSU FACILITIES. Not tomorrow. Not a week from now. Not even an hour from now. Right now. And every minute he's still their coach is a disgrace.

A few things PSU needs to do: clean house. Everyone on athletic staff that has control is replaced. Every coach, assistant, etc is gone. There's no way of knowing who knew what, etc. They're just all gone. You grovel to the public for forgiveness and say 'we've turned a new page starting henceforth.' And then, only then, can I consider this whole debacle right in the eyes of the university.

Maybe I'm being harsh being a fan of OSU. But, this isn't NCAA rule breaking. This isn't even the fact these are criminal charges. It's young kids being taken advantage of and these sick ****s letting it happen. They're culpable.

you are joeseph Stalin reincarnated .. sure purg alot of inocent and good people.. Let the facts come out TY .. There still is a thing called due process

Big Gain;962956 wrote:He was rewarded for his silence. He is now Penn State's recruiting coordinator.

Thats a reward job? That is a natural progression job for a Grad Assistant.

Some of you people are ridicules. All the facts haven't come out and your saying you hope joe pa gets raped in prison, really? Yet you guys didn't want other people to jump to conclusions during the whole Ohio state scandal. I live in central pa, about an hr from state college, it makes me sick how close this guy is to me and what he did is so sickening

Even if he wasn't told the "gory" details. How in the hell do you still allow this man into your program. If I were told there was even a hint of misconduct, I would search for the truth and have trouble not taking the man out right then and there. It sounds to me like JoPa knew the truth and covered it up, but even if he knew even just a hint of the truth and did nothing to stop it, matters not to me. If you have any reason to suspect there is something like that going on in his position with the authority he had, he could have found the truth. Instead he chose to allow the facilities he controlled to be used for this time of thing. And that is a best case scenario for him at this point! He should be fired, his legacy should be tarnished, and he should at least be investigated criminally, it may be hard to prove at this point....but should at least be looked into.

Crimson streak;963097 wrote:Some of you people are ridicules. All the facts haven't come out and your saying you hope joe pa gets raped in prison, really? Yet you guys didn't want other people to jump to conclusions during the whole Ohio state scandal. I live in central pa, about an hr from state college, it makes me sick how close this guy is to me and what he did is so sickening

What do you expect from this site? This is the same site that posts how they want to bang child killers like Casey Anthony.

From my perspective of having coached and worked with kids of all ages... there is something immediately suspect about any situation in which an adult goes somewhere alone with a child. There is no reason for a child to be sleeping over at an adults house alone.

I would NEVER be ANYWHERE alone with a child just because you never know what some rumor could be started by someone else OR the child.

How no one did anything about this for a long time is just terrible.

Crimson streak;963097 wrote:Some of you people are ridicules. All the facts haven't come out and your saying you hope joe pa gets raped in prison, really? Yet you guys didn't want other people to jump to conclusions during the whole Ohio state scandal. I live in central pa, about an hr from state college, it makes me sick how close this guy is to me and what he did is so sickening

All the facts haven't come out? Have you read the Grand Jury testimony? Paterno himself testified that he was told "something of a sexual nature" was going on involving a ten year old boy and Sandusky in the shower.....What more do you need to know? Do you really believe Paterno couldn't have done anything about this? Are you so naive to think that he wasn't smart enough to figure out what was going on? And this after previous allegations? And the GA claims he flat out told him it was anal sex with a ten year old boy, but even if you believe Paterno's story, how do you side with him?

I heard on the radio this morning that there is a recorded phone call from 98 or so, of Sandusky talking to one of the parents and he says he is sorry for what happened, blah, blah blah. But the prosecutor did not bring any charges? I can't find a link to back that up. Did anyone else hear about that?

http://mobile.pennlive.com/advpenn/pm_105257/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=lewgHw1E

FatHobbit;963125 wrote:I heard on the radio this morning that there is a recorded phone call from 98 or so, of Sandusky talking to one of the parents and he says he is sorry for what happened, blah, blah blah. But the prosecutor did not bring any charges? I can't find a link to back that up. Did anyone else hear about that?

Yes, it was in the PDF.

WebFire;963157 wrote:Yes, it was in the PDF.

Perhaps I should read the pdf before I post further, but I've really not wanted to.

"From my perspective of having coached and worked with kids of all ages... there is something immediately suspect about any situation in which an adult goes somewhere alone with a child."

If anyone at Penn State had a clue, the idea that a 60-year old guy would be showering with a young teenager (or not even teenager) should have provoked some Spidey-senses. Young kids don't need to shower after a "workout", and they don't need to do it with an adult not related to them.

How could these supposedly smart "leaders" not know what was going on?

thinthick, the simple fact is anybody in any position in any sane business would be on immediate paid leave. How would you even begin to know who covered it up, who knew, when, etc right now. You don't. But, you can't just stick your head in the sand and wait 2, 3, or more years for a verdict in any and all trials to decide who can't be on staff.

As for JoePa, go read the presentment. It's disgusting. I find it hard to believe the grad assistant, who after witnessing Sandusky anally-raping a child contacted his father, who he met with. They agreed to A) not call the police, but rather b) contact JoePa in the morning. Not that night. But, the next morning. I would assume the GA would be in some more 'less hysterical' nature when talking to JoePa the next day. As for the GA not telling the 'gory details', ... I think the implication alone would be enough. Sandusky was in the shower at night with a young boy. That alone would, you would think, cause immediate action. Not just kicking the can up the chain of command. JoePa is the top of the food chain at PSU. He is their 'god' that has say in anything that goes on there. The fact that he's 'coach for life' is proof enough. How he could just not care at all, just seems bad. As for the higher ups failing to report to police and only require that Sandusky stop bringing children to the facility slaps of indignation.

It's enough that you never want him with a kid again, but not enough to call the police to investigate? They knew it would be a black eye to the university if it came out. So, at the expense of these kids (especially the ones compromised after 2002), they covered it up to keep the squeaky clean image Penn State has cultivated for the past several decades.

Crimson streak;963097 wrote:Some of you people are ridicules. All the facts haven't come out and your saying you hope joe pa gets raped in prison, really? Yet you guys didn't want other people to jump to conclusions during the whole Ohio state scandal. I live in central pa, about an hr from state college, it makes me sick how close this guy is to me and what he did is so sickening

It is ridiculous and ignorant to compare this to the Ohio State scandal. The OSU situation dealt with rumors and anonymous sources. The PSU scandal deals with sworn, under oath grand jury testimony. The facts are out.

And ftr, I'd avoid blanket statements.

alwaysawarrior;963110 wrote:All the facts haven't come out? Have you read the Grand Jury testimony? Paterno himself testified that he was told "something of a sexual nature" was going on involving a ten year old boy and Sandusky in the shower.....What more do you need to know? Do you really believe Paterno couldn't have done anything about this? Are you so naive to think that he wasn't smart enough to figure out what was going on? And this after previous allegations? And the GA claims he flat out told him it was anal sex with a ten year old boy, but even if you believe Paterno's story, how do you side with him?

This. There is no forensic evidence that is still waiting to be tested. This is a case based on testimony.

Crimson streak;963097 wrote:Some of you people are ridicules. All the facts haven't come out and your saying you hope joe pa gets raped in prison, really? Yet you guys didn't want other people to jump to conclusions during the whole Ohio state scandal. I live in central pa, about an hr from state college, it makes me sick how close this guy is to me and what he did is so sickening

No conclusions have been made go fucking read the PDF file of the Grand Jury testimony those are the facts. Now I don't think Joe Pa should be raped is jail but its saddening that he allowed this guy to continuely come on to the PSU campus with young children. Its mind boggling how he never went to the police. And its insane that Sandusky was still allowed to set foot on the PSU campus as late as last week. Its fucking sickening that someone like you with a 3 month old daughter would be standing up for someone who let all of happen.

Someone post the transcript to JoPa's presser or a recap please will be on a stupid video conf during.

Sykotyk;963188 wrote:thinthick, the simple fact is anybody in any position in any sane business would be on immediate paid leave. How would you even begin to know who covered it up, who knew, when, etc right now. You don't. But, you can't just stick your head in the sand and wait 2, 3, or more years for a verdict in any and all trials to decide who can't be on staff.

As for JoePa, go read the presentment. It's disgusting. I find it hard to believe the grad assistant, who after witnessing Sandusky anally-raping a child contacted his father, who he met with. They agreed to A) not call the police, but rather b) contact JoePa in the morning. Not that night. But, the next morning. I would assume the GA would be in some more 'less hysterical' nature when talking to JoePa the next day. As for the GA not telling the 'gory details', ... I think the implication alone would be enough. Sandusky was in the shower at night with a young boy. That alone would, you would think, cause immediate action. Not just kicking the can up the chain of command. JoePa is the top of the food chain at PSU. He is their 'god' that has say in anything that goes on there. The fact that he's 'coach for life' is proof enough. How he could just not care at all, just seems bad. As for the higher ups failing to report to police and only require that Sandusky stop bringing children to the facility slaps of indignation.

It's enough that you never want him with a kid again, but not enough to call the police to investigate? They knew it would be a black eye to the university if it came out. So, at the expense of these kids (especially the ones compromised after 2002), they covered it up to keep the squeaky clean image Penn State has cultivated for the past several decades.

Im sick and disgusted .. I dont know why the guy who witnessed the assualt didnt stop it imediatley ,and why he didnt report it to police ... I just found out that Sandusky was heard practically confessing to wrong doing over the phone by detectives years earlier in a seperate incident and the prosecutet failed to prosecute .. UN freaking real .. The prosecuter later turned up missing and his car was found but its a complete mystery .. this is getting crazy .. full on Law and Order SVU ... Im just saying you cant hang everybody just yet .. I want heads to roll .. i just dont want inocent people to be punished premuturely .. It sucks but due process needs to be applied .. Hey alot of people would just like to take that sicko and line him up on a wall ... i say public stoneing

FatHobbit;963174 wrote:Perhaps I should read the pdf before I post further, but I've really not wanted to.

Skip to victim 6 if you want to read about that phone call. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to read any of it.

Paterno press confrence at 12:20 .. Im sure ESPN or somebody will have it on

Leave Paterno the hell alone! He's a football coach, not a Catholic Priest!