Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 29, 2011 12:14pm
It is one of the best, but it is definitely not the premier ACADEMIC institution or the premier athletic institution. If you include both it is probably up there. But I don't believe OSU has won the "Directors' cup" which goes to the best all around athletic department.sleeper;1029956 wrote:Ohio State is the premier ACADEMIC and athletic institution in the country. Of course the student part is important to me, that's why only winners chose Ohio State, the others transfer to Michigan.
If I'm not mistaken I believe Stanford definitely takes the cake and has won the majority of those. And it is also a better academic institution. If anything, Stanford is THE PREMIERE Academic/Athletic Institution.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 29, 2011 12:16pm
The Director's cup is a fraudulent award. Stanford does well because it A) plays in a weaker athletic conference and B) has less sports than Ohio State so it can condense scholarship money to recruit better athletesFly4Fun;1029995 wrote:It is one of the best, but it is definitely not the premier ACADEMIC institution or the premier athletic institution. If you include both it is probably up there. But I don't believe OSU has won the "Directors' cup" which goes to the best all around athletic department.
If I'm not mistaken I believe Stanford definitely takes the cake and has won the majority of those. And it is also a better academic institution. If anything, Stanford is THE PREMIERE Academic/Athletic Institution.
Ohio State has more sports programs than any school on the planet. They also win, on the field and off, making them the premier academic and athletic institution in the country.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 29, 2011 12:20pm
Please, don't put Fred Flintstone on a pedestal--he'd jump on a "committed" kid just as fast as any other coach if he felt he still had a chance. And if a 4* or 5* had second thoughts after "committing" to tsun, looked around, and then felt he made the right decision and wanted to stay, do you honestly believe FF would pull his scholly? HAHAHAWebFire;1029936 wrote: I guess one important piece we've left out is that Hoke stresses to the kids to no commit unless they are ready. Once they commit, they are COMMITTED.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 29, 2011 12:31pm
What do you mean by that?sleeper;1030000 wrote:... B) has less sports than Ohio State so it can condense scholarship money to recruit better athletes
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Does tOSU not award all the scholarships available per sport?
Does Stanford bring in better athletes than tOSU?
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 29, 2011 12:32pm
sleeper;1029956 wrote:Ohio State is the premier ACADEMIC and athletic institution in the country. Of course the student part is important to me, that's why only winners chose Ohio State, the others transfer to Michigan.
What if osu doesnt offer the degree you want?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 29, 2011 12:32pm
Not relevant? SO, you want a 18yr old kid to commit to a coach. But its ok for an adult to not commit, and bolt? LOL Ya...ok. Ridiculous. Take off your blinders.WebFire;1029952 wrote:You're right, it's big time football. Commit and be committed. If you aren't committed, make your visits. Seems pretty simple.
Your coach bolting example is not really relevant to this conversation.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 29, 2011 12:34pm
Then it's probably not worth a shit and you should reconsider.j_crazy;1030026 wrote:What if osu doesnt offer the degree you want?
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 29, 2011 12:36pm
Oh Really? I went to Ohio State's official athletic site. I believe I counted 37 sports (18 men, 19 women).sleeper;1030000 wrote:The Director's cup is a fraudulent award. Stanford does well because it A) plays in a weaker athletic conference and B) has less sports than Ohio State so it can condense scholarship money to recruit better athletes
Ohio State has more sports programs than any school on the planet. They also win, on the field and off, making them the premier academic and athletic institution in the country.
Stanford has 35 sports (16 men, 19 women).
So that loss of 2 sports is what gives Stanford that huge advantage that they win it every year over OSU. Don't get me wrong, OSU is a great school both athletically and academically. To call it the best though is a farce.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 29, 2011 12:50pm
You are all really naive about this. You don't think coaches highly discourage visits after a commitment? What fucking planet do you live on? Just because your coach doesn't make it a publicly known policy doesn't mean they don't do similar things.
And vball, Hoke already said see ya to a 4* recruit who was committed.
Bottom line is I don't care what anyone here thinks of it, and I'm pretty sure Hoke doesn't either. You are free to call him and tell him your thoughts.:rolleyes:
And vball, Hoke already said see ya to a 4* recruit who was committed.
Bottom line is I don't care what anyone here thinks of it, and I'm pretty sure Hoke doesn't either. You are free to call him and tell him your thoughts.:rolleyes:
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 29, 2011 12:50pm
Why are you arguing with sleeper?Fly4Fun;1030034 wrote:Oh Really? I went to Ohio State's official athletic site. I believe I counted 37 sports (18 men, 19 women).
Stanford has 35 sports (16 men, 19 women).
So that loss of 2 sports is what gives Stanford that huge advantage that they win it every year over OSU. Don't get me wrong, OSU is a great school both athletically and academically. To call it the best though is a farce.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 29, 2011 12:58pm
I'm pointing out facts, I'm not in a pointless pissing contest. I don't mind discussing things when there are facts to point to.WebFire;1030047 wrote:Why are you arguing with sleeper?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 29, 2011 12:59pm
You are when it's with sleeper.Fly4Fun;1030052 wrote:I'm not in a pointless pissing contest.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 29, 2011 1:02pm
WebFire;1030046 wrote:You are all really naive about this. You don't think coaches highly discourage visits after a commitment? What fucking planet do you live on? Just because your coach doesn't make it a publicly known policy doesn't mean they don't do similar things.
And vball, Hoke already said see ya to a 4* recruit who was committed.
Bottom line is I don't care what anyone here thinks of it, and I'm pretty sure Hoke doesn't either. You are free to call him and tell him your thoughts.:rolleyes:
Nobody on this thread will give a shit when UM misses out on a highly touted recruit because of a fail policy, but you'll be the first one to cry like a nine year old girl with gum in her hair when it happens. Truth.
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe
Posts: 1,054
Dec 29, 2011 1:03pm
Ever notice facts don't matter to sleeper? It's pretty much like arguing with an Ibex.Fly4Fun;1030052 wrote:I'm pointing out facts, I'm not in a pointless pissing contest. I don't mind discussing things when there are facts to point to.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 29, 2011 1:08pm
I don't think everything is automatically a pissing contest, only if people continue to go back and forth with an element of escalation.WebFire;1030056 wrote:You are when it's with sleeper.
Now we're in a pissing contest about whether or not I'm in a pissing contest... way to go!
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 29, 2011 1:08pm
Did you hear me crying when they "lost" a 4* this year? Didn't think so.ytownfootball;1030060 wrote:Nobody on this thread will give a shit when UM misses out on a highly touted recruit because of a fail policy, but you'll be the first one to cry like a nine year old girl with gum in her hair when it happens. Truth.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 29, 2011 1:12pm
Who's being naive? Nobody said that they don't think it happens at their school. Like I said, I'm sure Urban discourages commited recruits from taking visits, and I don't like it, even if he is the coach at OSU.WebFire;1030046 wrote:You are all really naive about this. You don't think coaches highly discourage visits after a commitment? What fucking planet do you live on? Just because your coach doesn't make it a publicly known policy doesn't mean they don't do similar things.
And vball, Hoke already said see ya to a 4* recruit who was committed.
Bottom line is I don't care what anyone here thinks of it, and I'm pretty sure Hoke doesn't either. You are free to call him and tell him your thoughts.:rolleyes:
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 29, 2011 1:17pm
+1WebFire;1030056 wrote:You are when it's with sleeper.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 29, 2011 1:21pm
This is an internet message board, so unless your Skyping someone on here, we can't hear you...but I'll bet you were whining to anyone that would listenWebFire;1030066 wrote:Did you hear me crying when they "lost" a 4* this year? Didn't think so.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 29, 2011 1:41pm
Nah, he was just a TE.vball10set;1030077 wrote:This is an internet message board, so unless your Skyping someone on here, we can't hear you...but I'll bet you were whining to anyone that would listen
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 29, 2011 1:54pm
lol--well that explains it thenWebFire;1030096 wrote:Nah, he was just a TE.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 29, 2011 3:28pm
5* highly coveted recruit is wayyyyy different than a 4* TE
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 29, 2011 4:10pm
Thank you Captain Obvious. Your point?SportsAndLady;1030202 wrote:5* highly coveted recruit is wayyyyy different than a 4* TE
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 29, 2011 4:14pm
Interesting. Stanford is a great school, academically and athletically. They could be the 1b to Ohio State's 1a.Fly4Fun;1030034 wrote:Oh Really? I went to Ohio State's official athletic site. I believe I counted 37 sports (18 men, 19 women).
Stanford has 35 sports (16 men, 19 women).
So that loss of 2 sports is what gives Stanford that huge advantage that they win it every year over OSU. Don't get me wrong, OSU is a great school both athletically and academically. To call it the best though is a farce.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 29, 2011 4:15pm
Stanford recruits less black people, so no they do not bring in better athletes. I was merely pointing out the flaw in the Directors cup, and why its a sham of an award.Con_Alma;1030021 wrote:What do you mean by that?
Does tOSU not award all the scholarships available per sport?
Does Stanford bring in better athletes than tOSU?