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Big Gain
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Dec 19, 2011 5:07pm
Does that number include the self-imposed reduction in scholarships by Ohio State of a month or so ago?
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 19, 2011 5:09pm
That was only because Meyer didn't start recruiting for Ohio State until a couple of weeks ago.WebFire;1019904 wrote:I bet Hoke is ****ting bricks with the #3 class in the nation.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 19, 2011 5:11pm
Doubtful. Meyer can't sign 45 kids. Nice try though.Big Gain;1020360 wrote:That was only because Meyer didn't start recruiting for Ohio State until a couple of weeks ago.
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Big Gain
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Dec 19, 2011 5:11pm
Could be, Hokey is always mumbling.WebFire;1019916 wrote:I did hear and you took it way out of context.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 19, 2011 5:16pm
Bad try by you. 15 were committed to OSU before Meyer started recruiting, he might not have offered some of those. 20 were committed to Michigan before Meyer started recruiting, some of those might not have committed to Michigan.WebFire;1020362 wrote:Doubtful. Meyer can't sign 45 kids. Nice try though.
namod65
Posts: 508
Dec 19, 2011 5:33pm
During his career at OSU, Tressel managed just 3 top 5 classes, and 4 top 10 classes. Texas, Florida, Alabama, USC were all consistently ahead of OSU during his years.Tobias Fünke;1020308 wrote:Jim Tressel would have won ~10 games this season. Schutt would probably not being going to a coachless Illinois team, and Spence is debatable.
Well duh. Who would have looked at Ohio State with sanctions looming and Luke Fickell running the show? Things looked grim for awhile.
You're looking at Ohio State's recruiting this season and comparing it to Urban's efforts. You're saying basically, on a scale of 1-10 in terms of recruiting:
Ohio State 2011: 3
Urban Meyer: 10
When you need to account for Tressel, and it could be:
Ohio State 2001-2010: 9.5
Ohio State 2012+: 10
My entire point is just that this huge surge is a bit misleading because Tressel was a damn fine recruiter and you're just seeing a rush because of the void Fickell was. I think that is a completely fair statement.
Team rankings from rivals:
2002: 5
2003: 41
2004: 9
2005: 12
2006: 12 (Urban was 2nd)
2007: 15 (Urban was 1st)
2008: 4 (Urban was 3rd)
2009: 3 (Urban was 11th)
2010: 25 (Urban was 2nd)
2011: 11
It's obvious how much better Urban is and how people gave Tress more credit as a recruiter than he deserved. He was AWESOME at turning the lesser ranked players into stars, but it is much easier to win when you have better talent, which is what Urban brings to the table.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Dec 19, 2011 6:40pm
lol Notre Dame fans
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 19, 2011 6:46pm
2kool4skool;1020436 wrote:lol Notre Dame fans
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2kool4skool
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Dec 19, 2011 6:55pm
karen lotz;1020441 wrote:que?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 19, 2011 7:02pm
I assume that's an animated gif?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 19, 2011 7:04pm
If you could afford a computer, you'd know.karen lotz;1020454 wrote:I assume that's an animated gif?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 19, 2011 7:08pm
Pick6;1020456 wrote:If you could afford a computer, you'd know.
LOL that makes a lot of sense.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 19, 2011 8:06pm
Hes going a good job. But a big program, plus a successful coach=recruiting isnt exactly rocket science
This class is impressive none the less
This class is impressive none the less
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rightfield
Posts: 164
Dec 19, 2011 9:09pm
Who is next in Urban's want list? When and who is the next visit ? any juniors?
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vball10set
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Dec 19, 2011 9:15pm
need some O-lineman and a stud corner, and a couple more linebackers
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 19, 2011 9:19pm
rightfield;1020612 wrote:Who is next in Urban's want list? When and who is the next visit ? any juniors?
Dead period until after the first of the year I think.
never mind on the junior
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 19, 2011 9:22pm
December 20-January 3: Dead Period (staff may have contact with recruits who have been admitted for mid-year enrollment)
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 19, 2011 10:31pm
Saw Meyer on tv. I believe he said its a dead period, but they are aloud one phone call per week, per recruit. I could be wrong. I caught end of his convo.karen lotz;1020643 wrote:Dead period until after the first of the year I think.
never mind on the junior
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 19, 2011 11:07pm
Fickell has a pretty good reputation as a recruiter in his own right.Tobias Fünke;1020308 wrote:My entire point is just that this huge surge is a bit misleading because Tressel was a damn fine recruiter and you're just seeing a rush because of the void Fickell was. I think that is a completely fair statement.
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bo shemmy3337
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Dec 19, 2011 11:22pm
I think what he was saying is anyone would recruit well and should at a major program like OSU. It's not the stars though it is how you use them and if they fit in your system and style. ND is a great example, there is no way those kids should loose the games they do. It is like they decide who to offer on what number rivals or scout has them. Urban is clearly doing a great job but next year I expect him to grab many kids from the south to try and fit his system better. Also you will see aside from dunn most the big names are on defense which is where I assume the ohio and norther kids will come from in the future.Mulva;1020994 wrote:Fickell has a pretty good reputation as a recruiter in his own right.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 19, 2011 11:41pm
huh?bo shemmy3337;1021076 wrote:I think what he was saying is anyone would recruit well and should at a major program like OSU. It's not the stars though it is how you use them and if they fit in your system and style. ND is a great example, there is no way those kids should loose the games they do. It is like they decide who to offer on what number rivals or scout has them. Urban is clearly doing a great job but next year I expect him to grab many kids from the south to try and fit his system better. Also you will see aside from dunn most the big names are on defense which is where I assume the ohio and norther kids will come from in the future.
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vball10set
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Dec 20, 2011 8:14am
shemmy, have you been hitting the eggnog already? 
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Dec 20, 2011 8:34am
I just repped the **** out of that.Automatik;1020349 wrote:19th to 6th in a week after being on campus for what? A month if that.
OSU fans have all the right to be excited. Stay butthurt.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Dec 20, 2011 8:36am
Reps.Big Gain;1020360 wrote:That was only because Meyer didn't start recruiting for Ohio State until a couple of weeks ago.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Dec 20, 2011 8:36am
Reps.Big Gain;1020363 wrote:Could be, Hokey is always mumbling.