karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 10, 2011 2:18pm
Right, which is why I put that in there about not knowing how accurate the NCAA was and hoping that they did do their due diligence in investigating because of how harsh an additional 5 games is. And I said "If" they did, then he was overpaid.FatHobbit;928977 wrote:FWIW according to Posey's lawyer he was paid in line with other non union employees were paid.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 10, 2011 2:18pm
How does Posey have a lawyer? I thought he had to do all of this stuff to "feed his family"?
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 10, 2011 2:24pm
Part of the argument is that he was paid for his travel time. And when you take that into consideration, the numbers basically come out to the penny.FatHobbit;928977 wrote:FWIW according to Posey's lawyer he was paid in line with other non union employees were paid.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 10, 2011 2:24pm
I believe the university is providing his attorney. I could be wrong.jordo212000;928984 wrote:How does Posey have a lawyer? I thought he had to do all of this stuff to "feed his family"?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 10, 2011 2:29pm
That seems odd to me. I've never been paid for travel time at any job.Writerbuckeye;928990 wrote:Part of the argument is that he was paid for his travel time. And when you take that into consideration, the numbers basically come out to the penny.
Writerbuckeye;928991 wrote:I believe the university is providing his attorney. I could be wrong.
How much money has been wasted on determining if these athletes are amateur or not?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 10, 2011 2:33pm
Not a bad gig to get paid $15 an hour to drive from Columbus to Independence or wherever.Writerbuckeye;928990 wrote:Part of the argument is that he was paid for his travel time. And when you take that into consideration, the numbers basically come out to the penny.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 10, 2011 3:00pm
I know a guy who gets $18/hour to drive cars back and forth from the Charlie's Dodge dealership in Maumee to various dealerships throughout the Tri-State area..just sayin'karen lotz;929000 wrote:Not a bad gig to get paid $15 an hour to drive from Columbus to Independence or wherever.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 10, 2011 3:01pm
Does he get paid to drive to work?vball10set;929027 wrote:I know a guy who gets $18/hour to drive cars back and forth from the Charlie's Dodge dealership in Maumee to various dealerships throughout the Tri-State area..just sayin'
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 10, 2011 3:03pm
vball10set;929027 wrote:I know a guy who gets $18/hour to drive cars back and forth from the Charlie's Dodge dealership in Maumee to various dealerships throughout the Tri-State area..just sayin'
Ok, I'd assume that is his actual job, right? The commute to work is not typically paid time.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 10, 2011 3:08pm
Actually, I don't know, but I doubt it...however, it's not all that uncommon for someone to get paid to drive to their place of employment if it's in their contract, especially if they can make their calls, etc. from their home.FatHobbit;929029 wrote:Does he get paid to drive to work?
For the record, I think Posey is as guilty as sin, but his attorney is doing what he was hired to do, and that is get his client reinstated as soon as possible...and he may just do it.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 10, 2011 3:16pm
Attorneys make their money by trying to get guilty fkrs off. Thats the American way and its a good way. But when the Fkrs are as dead ass guilty as Posey its a tougher gig. After Mama Posey shot her big mouth off about Lil' Devier being unfairly persecuted its time for OSU to cut bait and unload all the Fkrs.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 10, 2011 3:21pm
do you you what kind of job it supposedly was?karen lotz;928968 wrote:I don't know how accurate the NCAA was with their information, although you'd have to at least hope they did enough investigating if they were going to hand down an additional 5 games. According to the numbers they cited, Posey would have been paid almost $49 an hour. If they did a thorough look into things and determined that was the hourly rate, I think its safe to assume he was overpaid by a lot.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 10, 2011 3:25pm
Pick6;929047 wrote:do you you what kind of job it supposedly was?
ummm one of the places he worked at was a car wash, the other an excavating company. Someone working 40 hours a week at $49/hour would make $100,000 a year.
Bobby G or whatever his name is said that he employed athletes and paid them $15 an hour.
se-alum
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Oct 10, 2011 5:38pm
My dad owned a construction company, and he paid workers for travel time. It's not uncommon.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 10, 2011 5:45pm
Writerbuckeye;928991 wrote:I believe the university is providing his attorney. I could be wrong.
I'm not saying you are wrong, and I have no idea... But how is that not an NCAA violation?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 10, 2011 5:59pm
I see. Well I work road construction during summers, and making $49/hour isnt uncommon. I am non union working for a union company. I get paid the same union members do without having fees for benefits like health care taken out. Its around $36/hour.If you are a member of the union its something like $26/h. However, anything over 40 is time and a half, and that happened to be right around $49/hr (because you only have to pay union fees for regular time). Also, working weekends, holidays, or 7 days straight, you get paid double time..I regularly worked around 70hrs a week. Its also only 6 months out of the year which is why the dollar per hour rate is pretty high.karen lotz;929050 wrote:ummm one of the places he worked at was a car wash, the other an excavating company. Someone working 40 hours a week at $49/hour would make $100,000 a year.
Bobby G or whatever his name is said that he employed athletes and paid them $15 an hour.
I also got paid travel time to jobs, $12/h
Not saying that nothing wrong happened, but the numbers you have shown me happen to be pretty similar to what I've made doing similar work.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 10, 2011 6:32pm
Are we really defending Posey getting paid to drive to work?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 10, 2011 6:33pm
I got paid $12/h to drive to work, as did everybody I worked with. I guess its a good thing Im not a NCAA athlete, or I'd be fucked.thedynasty1998;929224 wrote:Are we really defending Posey getting paid to drive to work?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 10, 2011 6:59pm
You got paid for the time it took from leaving your house to get to your employers? I call BS.Pick6;929225 wrote:I got paid $12/h to drive to work, as did everybody I worked with. I guess its a good thing Im not a NCAA athlete, or I'd be ****ed.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Oct 10, 2011 7:02pm
He said he works for a Union company and gets paid to drive to the site. That really isn't uncommon. 3 of my cousins are Union plumbers and usually have 10 hours of drive time on their checks per week. Driving from their house to the jobsite.thedynasty1998;929247 wrote:You got paid for the time it took from leaving your house to get to your employers? I call BS.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 10, 2011 7:06pm
Just to address a few things mentioned above....
Posey's atty is being paid by the University with "non-public" funds. It is allowed and not unusual. All "entities" in an investigation should have and are entitled to legal representation.
Although Posey is not in the union, the union contract specifies that drive time is to be paid as the job may entail multiple sites during the day. Hence he was being paid the same as other workers.
Posey's atty is being paid by the University with "non-public" funds. It is allowed and not unusual. All "entities" in an investigation should have and are entitled to legal representation.
Although Posey is not in the union, the union contract specifies that drive time is to be paid as the job may entail multiple sites during the day. Hence he was being paid the same as other workers.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 10, 2011 7:24pm
Sorry, dynasty, but you're wrong here...as I stated above, it's not uncommon to get paid driving to and from your office, depending on where you work and what arrangements you have with your employer.thedynasty1998;929247 wrote:You got paid for the time it took from leaving your house to get to your employers? I call BS.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 10, 2011 8:16pm
I understand being paid for driving from site to site while on the clock. But not while commuting to work. If we are defending him being paid for driving from Columbus to Cleveland, then it is absolutely shady.vball10set;929265 wrote:Sorry, dynasty, but you're wrong here...as I stated above, it's not uncommon to get paid driving to and from your office, depending on where you work and what arrangements you have with your employer.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Oct 10, 2011 8:17pm
Once again, it's pretty common.thedynasty1998;929353 wrote: But not while commuting to work.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 10, 2011 8:17pm
It's common in construction to pay for driving from office to site or site to site. But I agree that it really isn't common outside of that.thedynasty1998;929353 wrote:I understand being paid for driving from site to site while on the clock. But not while commuting to work. If we are defending him being paid for driving from Columbus to Cleveland, then it is absolutely shady.