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Rotinaj

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Oct 6, 2011 11:51 AM
2kool4skool;922969 wrote:lol at the SEC taking the B1G's sloppy seconds.

I bet the SEC is so jealous of the B1G and all their recent success.
Oct 6, 2011 11:51am
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Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM
Mizzou handled this whole thing really really badly.
Oct 6, 2011 1:46pm
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Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM
Mizzou is holding out for what they truly want. Surprised the SEC hasn't told Vanderbilt to fuck off.
Oct 6, 2011 2:20pm
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Oct 6, 2011 2:21 PM
karen lotz;923775 wrote:Mizzou handled this whole thing really really badly.
No doubt. What a bunch of fucktards.

I understand why Missouri might be attractive with the TV markets, but where in the fuck did they get this notion that they could just jet off to whatever conference they want? I mean, they looked like asses last year in the Bee One Gee expansion, so you would think they'd have learned.

I normally wouldn't care either way, but in the last few days I really hoped it was a bunch of bullshit simply because of the way Missouri presented itself.

Sidenote, wonder why Auburn would be so willing to jump from the West to the East division (ha ha)?
Oct 6, 2011 2:21pm
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Oct 6, 2011 3:05 PM
missouri looks awful in this whole ordeal. i think they eventually get in because of the allure of the stl and kc tv markets (and wvu's lack thereof) but they are not making it easy on themselves.
Oct 6, 2011 3:05pm
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Oct 6, 2011 9:35 PM
dlazz;923815 wrote:Mizzou is holding out for what they truly want. Surprised the SEC hasn't told Vanderbilt to **** off.
Why would the SEC do that? Best city in the conference and great non-football sports (plus academics).
Oct 6, 2011 9:35pm
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Oct 6, 2011 9:42 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;924309 wrote:Why would the SEC do that? Best city in the conference and great non-football sports (plus academics).
Jordo will tell you it's ONLY about football..Vandy should be gone!!!
Oct 6, 2011 9:42pm
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Oct 6, 2011 9:43 PM
I don't see any conference telling any of their members to leave.
Oct 6, 2011 9:43pm
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Oct 7, 2011 7:17 AM
karen lotz;924327 wrote:I don't see any conference telling any of their members to leave.

Exactly. I've never said anything about a conference kicking another school out. However with expansion it is almost exclusively about football
Oct 7, 2011 7:17am
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Oct 7, 2011 8:33 AM
jordo212000;924733 wrote:Exactly. I've never said anything about a conference kicking another school out. However with expansion it is almost exclusively about football
Vandy runs a legit program, which is why they don't belong in the SEC. And also explains why they are terrible at football.
Oct 7, 2011 8:33am
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Oct 7, 2011 11:28 AM
Rotinaj;923618 wrote:I bet the SEC is so jealous of the B1G and all their recent success.
$6,000,000,000.

That is the amount of money that is divided amongst the members of the CIC for research ANNUALLY, a figure that will only increase if schools are added to the Big Ten. If this academic thing weren't as important as some say to expansion there'd be no reason for the Pac 12 or SEC to even attempt to come up with their own organizations like this, which is what they're currently trying to do.

There is no University out there that, if having to decide between the SEC and the Big Ten, would ever willingly choose the SEC and cite 'money' as the reason. No amount negotiated in a football contract can match the total package that the Big Ten offers. This is why the conference is so influential even without any on-the-field success.
Oct 7, 2011 11:28am
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Oct 7, 2011 3:02 PM
dtdtim;924938 wrote:$6,000,000,000.

That is the amount of money that is divided amongst the members of the CIC for research ANNUALLY, a figure that will only increase if schools are added to the Big Ten. If this academic thing weren't as important as some say to expansion there'd be no reason for the Pac 12 or SEC to even attempt to come up with their own organizations like this, which is what they're currently trying to do.

There is no University out there that, if having to decide between the SEC and the Big Ten, would ever willingly choose the SEC and cite 'money' as the reason. No amount negotiated in a football contract can match the total package that the Big Ten offers. This is why the conference is so influential even without any on-the-field success.

Just because a bunch of CIC members play football against one another isn't going to change any split in any funds. Also, the funds for the two (athletics and research) are independent of one another, it's not like they sink research funds into basketball or ticket sales into research.

Some schools are research schools, some are football schools, some are both. How said research schools align to play football is largely irrelevant, and even the three old conferences that pretend to give a shit (B1G, Pac-12, ACC) only marginally care. It may sound cool to say it means you have smart athletes, but all of that research money is locked up in grad students.
Oct 7, 2011 3:02pm
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Oct 9, 2011 7:03 PM
Boise State, Air Force, and Navy to the Big East for football only?
Oct 9, 2011 7:03pm
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Oct 9, 2011 8:47 PM
Where u hearin that karen? Im out for the night.and.can't check with my big east peoples about this
Oct 9, 2011 8:47pm
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Oct 9, 2011 9:08 PM
Saw it on Twitter a while ago. I don't remember who it was, it was a retweet of some CBS writer I think?
Oct 9, 2011 9:08pm
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Oct 9, 2011 9:21 PM
karen lotz;928218 wrote:Saw it on Twitter a while ago. I don't remember who it was, it was a retweet of some CBS writer I think?

Feldman retweeted it.
Oct 9, 2011 9:21pm
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Oct 9, 2011 9:24 PM
Fuck ESPN

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/sports/ncaafootball/conference-instability-is-filtering-down-to-the-next-level.html?_r=1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nyt%2Frss%2FSports+%28NYT+%3E+Sports%29&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimessports
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST An article in The Boston Globe on Sunday became the talk of college athletics, as it reported just how brazen and blatant Boston College’s blocking of Connecticut’s move to the Atlantic Coast Conference was.

“We didn’t want them in,” Boston College’s athletic director, Gene DeFilippo, told The Globe. “It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.”
The most stunning comment in the article was DeFilippo’s public admission that ESPN guided the A.C.C.’s decision to add Syracuse and Pittsburgh last month.
“We always keep our television partners close to us,” DeFilippo told The Globe. “You don’t get extra money for basketball. It’s 85 percent football money. TV — ESPN — is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball.”
DeFilippo’s comments give credence to the popular theory that ESPN encouraged Pittsburgh and Syracuse’s exit from the Big East in the wake of the Big East’s turning down ESPN’s billion-dollar television deal in May during an exclusive negotiating window. ESPN has a billion-dollar deal with the A.C.C., making that move either savvy business or collusion, depending on one’s perspective.
“We’ve got a great partnership and a great working relationship with ESPN,” an A.C.C. spokesperson said. “But they have never and will never dictate to us, especially in regards to expansion.”
Oct 9, 2011 9:24pm
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Oct 9, 2011 9:26 PM
I give Delaney credit..

He hasn't panicked and made an irrational move. 5 years ago, everyone wanted Rutgers in this conference. That wouldn've been awful, not to mention the NY market is shitty for CFB.
Oct 9, 2011 9:26pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:12 PM
If the BE expands with the likes of UCF and Temple, it needs to lose it's BCS status.

Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.
Oct 10, 2011 10:12pm
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Oct 10, 2011 10:22 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;929592 wrote:If the BE expands with the likes of UCF and Temple, it needs to lose it's BCS status.

Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.

They're working on it...... fingers crossed here.

That being said, UCF and Temple have been better the past five years than Syracuse. They also have a better up side.
Oct 10, 2011 10:22pm
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Oct 11, 2011 8:05 PM
UCF and Temple wouldn't surprise me. What does everyone think about Temple though....sure they would fit, but think about basketball....would they rather stay in the A10 and have a better shot at the NCAA tournament?
Oct 11, 2011 8:05pm
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Oct 11, 2011 8:06 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;929592 wrote:If the BE expands with the likes of UCF and Temple, it needs to lose it's BCS status.

Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.
It should of lost is BCS status when Miami left.....lol
Oct 11, 2011 8:06pm