Terry_Tate;860430 wrote:Are you just ignoring the part where Hoge was basing his comments on last years games(in which Tebow had a stellar 50% completion percentage) intentionally or unintentionally?
You should quit making comparisons like this as one could take it to mean that you could possibly believe that Tebow is on the same level as an NFL quarterback as Orton. You don't want to do so, as it's so ridiculous, you lose all credibility not only in this lifetime, but in any possible future lifetimes.Speedofsand;860440 wrote:+2
You keep saying 50%. You are ignoring 6 rushing TDs. Last year's passer ratings: Orton 79.6 , Tebow 82.1
Hoge should look at Orton's first season. 51%, rating 59.7
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/8520/kyle-orton
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13200/tim-tebow
Speedofsand;860416 wrote:If the haters used anything from preseason practice twitter remarks from a guy who said Brian Brohm was better than Aaron Rodgers as part of an argument, then yes, they would be delusional too.
Speedofsand;860440 wrote:+2
You keep saying 50%. You are ignoring 6 rushing TDs.
same as you ignoring the article I posted. You believe a washed up ESPN hack? Anyone around this board can tell you what liars they are at ESPN, the Dispatch, Yahoo, S.I., etc.Automatik;860519 wrote:What about the article I posted? Just disregard that?
So you want to ignore the QB passer rating, yards per attempt, points per game, etc.; 50% is all that counts in your book? Ignore that Orton was 51% his first year?Terry_Tate;860665 wrote:Lol, cause the 6 rushing tds excuses a 50% completion percentage.
Speedofsand;860712 wrote:same as you ignoring the article I posted. You believe a washed up ESPN hack? Anyone around this board can tell you what liars they are at ESPN, the Dispatch, Yahoo, S.I., etc.
So you want to ignore the QB passer rating, yards per attempt, points per game, etc.; 50% is all that counts in your book? Ignore that Orton was 51% his first year?
Speedofsand;860712 wrote:same as you ignoring the article I posted. You believe a washed up ESPN hack? Anyone around this board can tell you what liars they are at ESPN, the Dispatch, Yahoo, S.I., etc.
So you want to ignore the QB passer rating, yards per attempt, points per game, etc.; 50% is all that counts in your book? Ignore that Orton was 51% his first year?
Speedofsand;860712 wrote:same as you ignoring the article I posted. You believe a washed up ESPN hack? Anyone around this board can tell you what liars they are at ESPN, the Dispatch, Yahoo, S.I., etc.
So you want to ignore the QB passer rating, yards per attempt, points per game, etc.; 50% is all that counts in your book? Ignore that Orton was 51% his first year?
lhslep134;860957 wrote:Orton isn't a 1st year QB so who the f**k cares what he did his first year?
SportsAndLady;861178 wrote:Still trying to figure out how to fix accuracy
Seems like one of those things you either got it or ya dont
Speedofsand;861217 wrote:Forget Orton's first year, Tebow's numbers are better than Orton's in 2010.
enigmaax;861167 wrote:I think that point goes back to the statement that you can't improve accuracy. Someone pointed out Orton's numbers the last few years and he's characterized as a solid NFL QB, but he started out pretty shaky (particularly as it relates to accuracy). Just an example of how QB's can improve, including accuracy. Obviously, that isn't an argument for Tebow to start right now, but a statement that his future isn't necessarily doomed.
SportsAndLady;861178 wrote:Still trying to figure out how to fix accuracy
Seems like one of those things you either got it or ya dont
Hoge is being a dick when it comes to Tebow, its obvious he just doesn't like him personally. Hoge said on ESPN just a few minutes ago that Tebow was plain awful in the 3 starts he had at the end of season. He was far from awful for a rookie starting in his first 3 NFL games. Hoge has been very unprofessional in his comments about Tebow.Gblock;861182 wrote:hodge had the benefit of a great team and wasnt that great of a player. im a steeler fan but he was way too harsh on tebow. his remarks make it seems like he thinks he's going into the hall of fame. as far as tebow goes i say give it some time. he's certainly as good as some guys ive seen play last year. off the top of my head rusty smith, dennis dixon, charlie whitehurst etc...
Skyhook79;870145 wrote:Hoge is being a **** when it comes to Tebow, its obvious he just doesn't like him personally. Hoge said on ESPN just a few minutes ago that Tebow was plain awful in the 3 starts he had at the end of season. He was far from awful for a rookie starting in his first 3 NFL games. Hoge has been very unprofessional in his comments about Tebow.
As one highly knowledgeable member of the organization told me Monday, “If everything was totally equal, and this were a competition based only on performance at this camp, Tebow would probably be the fourth-string guy. Kyle [Orton] is far and away the best, and Tebow’s way behind [Brady] Quinn, too. And I’m telling you, Adam Weber is flat-out better right now.”