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Jul 17, 2011 3:46 PM
Cozart is getting tons of pitches in, and he is hammering them. I imagine the Pirates will try the other side of the plate. Lets hope he has the same kind of week he has had here.
Jul 17, 2011 3:46pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:47 PM
Doesn't Brantley know the we have Gomes up here? No need for Alonso or Frazier.
Jul 17, 2011 3:47pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:48 PM
Smh at some of you who poo-pooed bringing up Cozart at the expense of Janish and/or Renteria
Jul 17, 2011 3:48pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Gomes gets dfa'd at July 31 deadline.

Dusty is Billy Haywood, and Gomes is his Jerry. Dancing after a seeing eye single. Can't accept the reality that he doesn't cut it, because he still collects Gomes baseball cards.
Jul 17, 2011 3:48pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:48 PM
Gomes with a big day!
Jul 17, 2011 3:48pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:49 PM
se-alum;832300 wrote:Looking at what Cozart did in the minors, you knew he could hit the ball hard.

Just joking with dave.
Jul 17, 2011 3:49pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:50 PM
swamisez;832311 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Gomes gets dfa'd at July 31 deadline.

Dusty is Billy Haywood, and Gomes is his Jerry. Dancing after a seeing eye single. Can't accept the reality that he doesn't cut it.

Or right after his Bobblehead day on the 23rd.
Jul 17, 2011 3:50pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:50 PM
swamisez;832306 wrote:Cozart is getting tons of pitches in, and he is hammering them. I imagine the Pirates will try the other side of the plate. Lets hope he has the same kind of week he has had here.

Remember though that after the first couple successful games he had he went the other way with a couple hits. That is the right thing to do, then they came back in. That is what they say that hitting is a game of adjustments. Cozart seems to be way ahead of some other Reds with much more ML experience that don't get that as well yet!
Jul 17, 2011 3:50pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:51 PM
Ironman92;832314 wrote:Just joking with dave.
say what?
Jul 17, 2011 3:51pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:51 PM
I hope this is true.
Jul 17, 2011 3:51pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:52 PM
Time to go bye bye Gomes. There is no reason to keep him. There are already 2 guys on the team who are better. Plus Dusty needs saved from himself
Jul 17, 2011 3:52pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:54 PM
CoCo not overthrowing so far, letting natural movement help him. Milwaukee he seemed to be trying to throw it through the catcher, and break every pitch off like it was his best slider.
Jul 17, 2011 3:54pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:55 PM
Good start to the second half!
Jul 17, 2011 3:55pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:56 PM
I'm not sure which is the bigger lineup flub that Dusty continuously makes. Stubbs leadoff or Gomes 5th?

Playing Heisey everyday in left might help. He isn't an ideal leadoff hitter either, but he is a far better fit than Stubbs is
Jul 17, 2011 3:56pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:58 PM
Good! Now if they can get the back to back win drought broken tomorrow. I'll be in Pitt to watch the 3 games. I think I'll have to abdicate my good seat close to the field for one in the shade for that high temp & humidity, middle of the day, game on Wednesday.
Jul 17, 2011 3:58pm
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Jul 17, 2011 3:59 PM
mhs95_06;832327 wrote:Good! Now if they can get the back to back win drought broken tomorrow. I'll be in Pitt to watch the 3 games. I think I'll have to abdicate my good seat close to the field for one in the shade for that high temp & humidity, middle of the day, game on Wednesday.
Have fun, what a great park. Never been there when the Reds or the Pirates were good, should be a great atmosphere.
Jul 17, 2011 3:59pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:08 PM
Can someone tell me where Cairo hit it for a triple?
Nice win though now we need to get 2/3 from Pitt.
Jul 17, 2011 4:08pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:11 PM
gerb131;832336 wrote:Can someone tell me where Cairo hit it for a triple?
Nice win though now we need to get 2/3 from Pitt.
i believe right center. they were playing him kinda shallow.
Jul 17, 2011 4:11pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:17 PM
dave;832346 wrote:i believe right center. they were playing him kinda shallow.

Thank ya.
Jul 17, 2011 4:17pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:29 PM
jordo212000;832325 wrote:Playing Heisey everyday in left might help. He isn't an ideal leadoff hitter either, but he is a far better fit than Stubbs is

Why? Given his K rate, if he had the same number of ABs as Stubbs he'd be 3rd in the league in Ks.

Heisey has a .303 OBP leading off. The only upside is he has 7 HRs in 66 PAs but that isn't sustainable over a whole season because 5 of those came in 2 games. At least I think both of his multi-HR games were batter leadoff.

Stubbs has a .340 OBP out of the leadoff spot, which is I think above league average for leadoff hitters.
Jul 17, 2011 4:29pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:34 PM
Jordo is obsessed with heisey batting leadoff and being so much better there than stubbs...he ignores the stats
Jul 17, 2011 4:34pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:35 PM
swamisez;832311 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Gomes gets dfa'd at July 31 deadline.

Doesn't he have a 2 yr contract? Do you think his mind-set is "go for clobbering HRs and try to get a big pay day, and if I can't and get close to the end of the contract, I'll cut down, go oppo and become valuable for another small contract"? Or is he just stupid?
Jul 17, 2011 4:35pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:40 PM
justincredible;832369 wrote:Why? Given his K rate, if he had the same number of ABs as Stubbs he'd be 3rd in the league in Ks.

Heisey has a .303 OBP leading off. The only upside is he has 7 HRs in 66 PAs but that isn't sustainable over a whole season because 5 of those came in 2 games. At least I think both of his multi-HR games were batter leadoff.

Stubbs has a .340 OBP out of the leadoff spot, which is I think above league average for leadoff hitters.

I think Heisey would improve with more playing time. He hasn't received consistent playing all season. He keeps getting jerked around by Dusty. It is really hard to play consistent when you have no idea when you are going to play next.
Jul 17, 2011 4:40pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:42 PM
SportsAndLady;832374 wrote:...he ignores the stats

Funny you should put your $0.02 in. You're one of the Edgar Renteria apologists. I'm guessing some of your posts from early on in the season are even more comical now.
Jul 17, 2011 4:42pm
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Jul 17, 2011 4:45 PM
jordo212000;832384 wrote:Funny you should put your $0.02 in. You're one of the Edgar Renteria apologists. I'm guessing some of your posts from early on in the season are even more comical now.

You're a joke....my stance on renteria is and has always been we ll need him come the end of the season...its not like I've said he's had a good season...he's been bad but he ll make it count come September /October
Jul 17, 2011 4:45pm