sleeper
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Jun 19, 2011 9:43pm
Crimson streak;807021 wrote:I see what jordo is saying. He is saying Williams took a lot of stand still jump shots as opposed to hitting a jumper on the run/ with a taller defender on him. Either way Irving is the best pick. Williams I think will struggle a little bit adjusting to the game but I can see him as 18-10 type guy down the road
Williams is 6'8. How much taller are these guys defending him?
sleeper
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Jun 19, 2011 9:45pm
jordo212000;806749 wrote:Williams is good, but you wonder if he'll develop a jumpshot.
Also, you do realize the guy is 6'8 right?jordo212000;806933 wrote:I don't see the sense. Never said he couldn't shoot. Thought he had things to work on and I think he might struggle against taller defenders who are just as athletic
jordo212000
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Jun 19, 2011 9:49pm
6'8 is very short for a PF. The guys covering him will be 2-3 inches tallerI see what jordo is saying. He is saying Williams took a lot of stand still jump shots as opposed to hitting a jumper on the run/ with a taller defender on him. Either way Irving is the best pick. Williams I think will struggle a little bit adjusting to the game but I can see him as 18-10 type guy down the road
Williams is 6'8. How much taller are these guys defending him?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 19, 2011 9:51pm
Very short? You do realize most centers are 6'10/6'11? PF is slightly smaller, 6'8 is about where a PF should be.jordo212000;807089 wrote:6'8 is very short for a PF. The guys covering him will be 2-3 inches taller
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 19, 2011 9:53pm
Also, its irrelevant. You made a point the guy needs to develop a jump shot, you've been proven wrong and you won't admit it.
Epic fail on your part.
Epic fail on your part.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 19, 2011 9:54pm
Those worried about his size are more worried about it on the defensive end. Getting a shot off is the least of Williams' worries. If he's guarded by someone that much taller he'll drive right around him. If Jason Terry can shoot over LeBron Derrick Williams can get shots off too.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 19, 2011 9:55pm
He's actually 6'9. LOL
Another fail by Jordo. Very short LOL
Another fail by Jordo. Very short LOL
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sportswizuhrd
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Jun 19, 2011 9:56pm
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 19, 2011 9:57pm
sleeper;807094 wrote:He's actually 6'9. LOL
Beat me to it.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 19, 2011 11:51pm
Even if he was 6'8 its not short for PF anymore. The league is changing, a lot of the Pfs are 6'8 6'9 range. Just are explosive athletic now as opposed to big bulky back to the basket type
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 20, 2011 12:11am
Hb31187;807170 wrote:Even if he was 6'8 its not short for PF anymore. The league is changing, a lot of the Pfs are 6'8 6'9 range. Just are explosive athletic now as opposed to big bulky back to the basket type
Exactly.
Zach Randolph 6'9''
JJ Hickson 6'8'' or 6'9''
Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge are both 6'10''
Carlos Boozer 6'9''
Al Horford 6'10''
I'm sure there are MANY more examples as well..
hoops23
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Jun 20, 2011 12:15am
Crimson streak;807021 wrote:I see what jordo is saying. He is saying Williams took a lot of stand still jump shots as opposed to hitting a jumper on the run/ with a taller defender on him. Either way Irving is the best pick. Williams I think will struggle a little bit adjusting to the game but I can see him as 18-10 type guy down the road
Wait, what? That's NOT what he's saying. In fact, it's not even close. He said DWill needs to develop a jumpshot, period. There was no gray area in his inital post. He didn't say anything about shooting over taller guys or creating his own shot until he got called out and proven wrong about his initial statement.
Just look at this:
jordo212000;806749 wrote: Williams is good, but you wonder if he'll develop a jumpshot.
Please, don't let the spin doctor fool you.
Also, he's 6'9'' and very athletic, I doubt he's going to have trouble creating a shot.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 20, 2011 1:44am
Caller on ABAO says the Cavs should take Irving and Alec Burks from Colorado at 1 and 4. He says Irving is just like Chris Paul. Not agreeing with this at all.
GOONx19
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Jun 20, 2011 2:55am
As long they don't take Valanciunas I don't see how they could end up with a bad draft.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 20, 2011 5:28am
GOONx19;807219 wrote:As long they don't take Valanciunas I don't see how they could end up with a bad draft.
Agreed
sexysallyhoffer15
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Jun 20, 2011 6:23am
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Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jun 20, 2011 6:44am
hoops23;807176 wrote:Wait, what? That's NOT what he's saying. In fact, it's not even close. He said DWill needs to develop a jumpshot, period. There was no gray area in his inital post. He didn't say anything about shooting over taller guys or creating his own shot until he got called out and proven wrong about his initial statement.
Just look at this:
Please, don't let the spin doctor fool you.
Also, he's 6'9'' and very athletic, I doubt he's going to have trouble creating a shot.
I didn't read back that far so I thought that was what he was trying to say. If he really said he needs to develop a jump shot then that's retarded lol
TigerNation10
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Jun 20, 2011 9:54am
Saying Irving is like Paul is very valid. Irving is not like Rose or Westbrook where they are superb athletes and jumping out of the gym. Irving is more of a pure point guard like Paul but with more height and still a great athlete.sportswizuhrd;807216 wrote:Caller on ABAO says the Cavs should take Irving and Alec Burks from Colorado at 1 and 4. He says Irving is just like Chris Paul. Not agreeing with this at all.
Burks wouldn't be terrible just because he would be an upgrade at the 2 spot but I don't believe you pass on Kanter or Williams.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jun 20, 2011 9:57am
GOONx19;807219 wrote:As long they don't take Valanciunas I don't see how they could end up with a bad draft.
I haven't seen enough of Valanciunas to have a strong opinion one way or the other about him, but I'm just curious why you think this?
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 20, 2011 11:31am
Wooball;807328 wrote:I haven't seen enough of Valanciunas to have a strong opinion one way or the other about him, but I'm just curious why you think this?
This. I know that there are quite a few people who seem to think he will be the best Euro big in the draft. I know that he has an interesting contract situation
Anyways, looks like the Cavs are starting to open up the Rudy Gay talks again
According to Amico the Cavs have also talked to the Hawks about Josh Smith
Alot of rumors out there right now, Thursday should be interesting
Commander of Awesome
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Jun 20, 2011 11:45am
Where are you reading this?KR1245;807409 wrote:This. I know that there are quite a few people who seem to think he will be the best Euro big in the draft. I know that he has an interesting contract situation
Anyways, looks like the Cavs are starting to open up the Rudy Gay talks again
According to Amico the Cavs have also talked to the Hawks about Josh Smith
Alot of rumors out there right now, Thursday should be interesting
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 20, 2011 12:03pm
KR1245;807409 wrote:Anyways, looks like the Cavs are starting to open up the Rudy Gay talks again
According to Amico the Cavs have also talked to the Hawks about Josh Smith
What else is involved in these talks?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jun 20, 2011 12:39pm
No to Josh Smith.
Midstate01
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Jun 20, 2011 12:53pm
Hell no to Josh smith. Can't hit a jumper to save his life
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 20, 2011 12:55pm
Derrick Williams is even a better shooter! HahaHell no to Josh smith. Can't hit a jumper to save his life