2011 Cleveland Cavalier Offseason/Draft

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Jun 19, 2011 6:39pm
I don't see the sense. Never said he couldn't shoot. Thought he had things to work on and I think he might struggle against taller defenders who are just as athletic
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Jun 19, 2011 6:40pm
Jordo is the worst
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like_that
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Jun 19, 2011 6:41pm
lol at Jordo still posting.
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Jun 19, 2011 6:42pm
SportsAndLady;806935 wrote:Jordo is the worst

+1

I love how he always says only a "few" posters dislike him, when this thread pretty much says so otherwise.
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Jun 19, 2011 6:42pm
jordo212000;806933 wrote:I don't see the sense. Never said he couldn't shoot.
See below post.
jordo212000;806749 wrote: Williams is good, but you wonder if he'll develop a jumpshot.

As a rebuttal before you try and spew your typical BS, it'd be like me saying I wonder if you'll ever develop a good use of soap (hinting that you smell like shit) but did so without saying you smell like shit. You're comment stated above shows that you think he can't shoot. You were proven wrong, admit it and move on.
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Jun 19, 2011 6:43pm

As a rebuttal before you try and spew your typical BS, it'd be like me saying I wonder if you'll ever develop a good use of soap (hinting that you smell like shit) but did so without saying you smell like shit. You're comment stated above shows that you think he can't shoot. You were proven wrong, admit it and move on.
Lol whatever dude
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Jun 19, 2011 6:45pm
jordo212000;806942 wrote:Lol whatever dude

Translation: I have been talking out of my ass, and I am too stubborn to admit I am wrong, so I am just going to act like a 12 year old.
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Jun 19, 2011 6:45pm
^Exactly. Jordo was proven wrong so he went into spin cycle. Smh. He's doing an even worse job of trying to get out of this.
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Jun 19, 2011 6:46pm
^Exactly. Jordo was proven wrong so he went into spin cycle. Smh. He's doing an even worse job of trying to get out of this.
Not trying to get out of it all. I just have a different opinion on Williams
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Jun 19, 2011 6:52pm
jordo212000;806949 wrote:Not trying to get out of it all. I just have a different opinion on Williams

Dude, you claimed Williams didn't have a jumpshot. HE DOES. There is no opinion on that, it's backed up by science LOL.

Seriously, stats don't lie. I just don't get what you're trying to argue.

It'd be like me saying Blake Griffin isn't a good dunker IMO, because he doesn't do a 360 every time.
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Jun 19, 2011 6:52pm
cant wait til thursday!
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Jun 19, 2011 6:57pm
Not trying to get out of it all. I just have a different opinion on Williams

Dude, you claimed Williams didn't have a jumpshot. HE DOES. There is no opinion on that, it's backed up by science LOL.

Seriously, stats don't lie. I just don't get what you're trying to argue.

It'd be like me saying Blake Griffin isn't a good dunker IMO, because he doesn't do a 360 every time.


College success doesn't guarantee pro success. I watched Williams play a few times this year and came away questioning parts of his game
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Jun 19, 2011 6:58pm
jordo212000;806960 wrote:College success doesn't guarantee pro success. I watched Williams play a few times this year and came away questioning parts of his game

That's not the point though. You tried to claim his shooting was a weakness, and you based it off his college game. Stats were thrown in your face, and it was a complete fail on your part. Now as hoops said, you are in spin cycle. It is comical to see what your next bs post will be.
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Jun 19, 2011 7:01pm
hoops23;806955 wrote:
It'd be like me saying Blake Griffin isn't a good dunker IMO, because he doesn't do a 360 every time.
I'm sure Turdo would only say something like that if he were on the Cavs.
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Jun 19, 2011 7:02pm
College success doesn't guarantee pro success. I watched Williams play a few times this year and came away questioning parts of his game

That's not the point though. You tried to claim his shooting was a weakness, and you based it off his college game. Stats were thrown in your face, and it was a complete fail on your part. Now as hoops said, you are in spin cycle. It is comical to see what your next bs post will be.
I liken it to TP in college football. Sure his stats look good, but when you actually watch him there are some holes/questions in his game that he will need to answer at the next level
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Jun 19, 2011 7:04pm
jordo212000;806964 wrote:I liken it to TP in college football. Sure his stats look good, but when you actually watch him there are some holes/questions in his game that he will need to answer at the next level

Or you could look at TP's career completion %. lolfail
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Jun 19, 2011 7:07pm
It'd be like me saying Blake Griffin isn't a good dunker IMO, because he doesn't do a 360 every time.
I'm sure Turdo would only say something like that if he were on the Cavs.


You are desperately trying to make this Cavs issue and it just isn't happening. I haven't been hammering on them at all
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Jun 19, 2011 7:09pm
jordo212000;806964 wrote:I liken it to TP in college football. Sure his stats look good, but when you actually watch him there are some holes/questions in his game that he will need to answer at the next level

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sportswizuhrd
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Jun 19, 2011 7:24pm
Do we take Valanciunas at #4 even though he may not come over for a year or two due to his contract with Lietuvos Rytas?

I think I will be happy with any combination of...

Irving/Williams
Irving/Kanter
Irving/Vesely
Williams/Knight
Williams/Walker
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Jun 19, 2011 7:31pm
sportswizuhrd;806982 wrote:Do we take Valanciunas at #4 even though he may not come over for a year or two due to his contract with Lietuvos Rytas?

I think I will be happy with any combination of...

Irving/Williams
Irving/Kanter
Irving/Vesely
I'd be happy with any of these 3.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 19, 2011 7:36pm
LOL....I always miss the good shit.
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Jun 19, 2011 7:59pm
sportswizuhrd;806982 wrote:Do we take Valanciunas at #4 even though he may not come over for a year or two due to his contract with Lietuvos Rytas?

I think I will be happy with any combination of...

Irving/Williams
Irving/Kanter
Irving/Vesely
Williams/Knight
Williams/Walker

valanciunas not coming over for a year isn't the worst that could happen. let him bulk up over in europe and meanwhile the cavs can be well on their way to another much needed high draft pick in 2012
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Jun 19, 2011 8:00pm
I see what jordo is saying. He is saying Williams took a lot of stand still jump shots as opposed to hitting a jumper on the run/ with a taller defender on him. Either way Irving is the best pick. Williams I think will struggle a little bit adjusting to the game but I can see him as 18-10 type guy down the road
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Jun 19, 2011 8:05pm
I see what jordo is saying. He is saying Williams took a lot of stand still jump shots as opposed to hitting a jumper on the run/ with a taller defender on him. Either way Irving is the best pick. Williams I think will struggle a little bit adjusting to the game but I can see him as 18-10 type guy down the road
Yup. This guy gets it
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Jun 19, 2011 8:12pm
I still believe irving is their guy....this other shit is just your usual draft week smoke screens.