THE4RINGZ;918010 wrote:I watched the NWN/Dalton game replay on CPI, if you are referring to the non call on the illegal procedure, then you must not have seen the other really, really bad or missed call on the last drive. The play where Northwestern was called for roughing the passer which moved the ball into the red zone. Watch it again, and you will see Moyer had crossed the line of scrimmage prior to throwing the ball. So not only did they miss that, but then they incorrectly called a roughing the passer due to the fact the defense thought Moyer was going to run with the ball as he had crossed the line of scrimmage. The announcers from CPI were in utter disbelief.

But hey, mistakes are made all the time by officials, it is just part of the game. That call or lack there of didn't effect the outcome, just made it more exciting to watch at the end.

I remember that from last night.....was a horrible call

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BearRider...I am sorry I did say something wrong. I meant to say they, along with their parents, point the fingers at the COACHING STAFF not themselves.

BEARIDER;918168 wrote:wcalfan ,these kids hang around together a lot ,they don't blame each other,at least not the ones I'm around. Haven't heard much comment about the games as they really don't care (some of them) what we spectators think of them. They do see everyone that leaves at half time when they lose a game ,started last year. The adults are quicker to quit than the kids. Oh my we aren't winning I'm leaving. I have coached some of these young men in baseball over the years and they do hang their heads when they get down ,but I wouldn't call it quitting as most of them have been coming back for more for 10 years.Just remember it is a TEAM effort and they all could pick it up a notch at times ,but then they are young and not all of them are natural born killers as some would like to think they should be and this goes for all of them not just the seniors. Myself ,I don't think over all you'll find a better bunch of young men,yea they made a mistake ,call it what you want ,but you visit a few of the local schools and what they did isn't squat compared to what goes on elswhere. You seem to be the finger pointer of whats wrong also. You don't like anyone commenting on the coaching so don't comment on the kids as I don't like your attitude about them. Me I would and have bent over backwards for some of these kids.

Bearider, nicely put.........

wcalfan;918197 wrote:BearRider...I am sorry I did say something wrong. I meant to say they, along with their parents, point the fingers at the COACHING STAFF not themselves.

Both are to blame wcal

Go Falcons;918169 wrote:To use your line of thinking. For forty years Hillsdales kids just sucked. The coach had nothing to do with the last five. The kids just up and improved that much.

Well said!!! I couldn't aggree more. Hillsdale had athletes all through those years (not all went out for football). Coach Williams and his staff are the reason, not the only one, but still the main reason for the program's climb to respectability! IMHO

was_that_it;918207 wrote:Well said!!! I couldn't aggree more. Hillsdale had athletes all through those years (not all went out for football). Coach Williams and his staff are the reason, not the only one, but still the main reason for the program's climb to respectability! IMHO

The type/size of athletes that Hillsdale has had the last 5 years cannot be compared to what they have had in the past. That along with Coach Williams has been the factor. It is a combination of those things.

OMG!!!! You think we all of a sudden changed the breeding, or the diets in J-ville. When Williams started 4 or five kids in the weight room was wonderful. Now there is sixty or more. That's called motivating kids to get better.

Demoralizer: Your only hope in Rittman is selective breeding. LOL

if you can not blame the head coach for loosing the games calling the same five predictable plays over and over again then when waynedale was winning was it just the coaching that won the games and not the kids?

Go Falcons;918230 wrote:OMG!!!! You think we all of a sudden changed the breeding, or the diets in J-ville. When Williams started 4 or five kids in the weight room was wonderful. Now there is sixty or more. That's called motivating kids to get better.

Demoralizer: Your only hope in Rittman is selective breeding. LOL

thats pretty funny since you can run your mouth when hillsdale has one league championship trophy in their trophy case compared to rittmans 15 plus

thedemoralizer7;918245 wrote:thats pretty funny since you can run your mouth when hillsdale has one league championship trophy in their trophy case compared to rittmans 15 plus

I think you need to read the last few posts to get my point, it was not a slam at Rittman.

1_beast;917968 wrote:Homer Refs!!!!!!!! Had walking tacos at half....

Norwayne runs the table.....UNLESS SHCROCK.....Can stop them...Hillsdale wont!!!

Have to disagree with you there beast, Not sure how you can say Smithville will stop them but Hillsdale can't. Guess we will have to prove it in week 10.

Falcon;918264 wrote:Have to disagree with you there beast, Not sure how you can say Smithville will stop them but Hillsdale can't. Guess we will have to prove it in week 10.

I'm not going to say Norwayne runs the table, but I see nobody stopping their offense. Can Smithville or Hillsdale beat them??.....maybe, but I think they will have to put up 45+ points to do it.

Rorschach73;918242 wrote:if you can not blame the head coach for loosing the games calling the same five predictable plays over and over again then when waynedale was winning was it just the coaching that won the games and not the kids?

Huh???? (Beast do you see what I am saying about some people on here?)

It doesn't matter what plays he would have called last night...when you get DOMINATED up front like we did last night it DOESN'T MATTER!!!

A few years ago when we were beating the good teams, we had good football players along with great leadership from our seniors!

Bobcat;918060 wrote:Not much to say after last nights game. I think it went pretty much as expected. Waynedale has a couple nice athletes but they are no match for the Cats. That's not a slam on them. The Bobcats are very good. We'll find out how good in the last couple weeks of the season. Norwayne did pretty much whatever they wanted. The game could have been worse if not for some uncharacteristic dropped passes by Norwayne recievers but the field was terrible and conditions were not good. We ran and passed with much success and the 1's were out again before the 4th qtr. Norwayne is averaging nearly 50 a game on offense and has only given up 29 points in 6 games with the 1's playing 3 quarters per game or less......nuff said

Norwayne is VERY good....I expect a deep run in the playoffs out of the Team!

thedemoralizer7;918245 wrote:thats pretty funny since you can run your mouth when hillsdale has one league championship trophy in their trophy case compared to rittmans 15 plus

Rittman has won 6 Titles in football since 1954...sharing the crown with Smithville in 1980!

Bobcat3;918305 wrote:I'm not going to say Norwayne runs the table, but I see nobody stopping their offense. Can Smithville or Hillsdale beat them??.....maybe, but I think they will have to put up 45+ points to do it.

How they going to beat us our varsity has given up only two scores in six games. We run the table.

Paul;918416 wrote:How they going to beat us our varsity has given up only two scores in six games. We run the table.

I do think Hillsdale (have not seen them in person) and Smithville may have the size and personnel to match-up well. I think Norwaynes playcalling is somewhat predictable...confidence is high, but watch out for the speed bumps, they might get ya!

luckydog;918201 wrote:Both are to blame wcal

Sorry haven't heard any players blame coach Z, heard a few say today they got beat up on the line, but you know what they are already talking about next weeks game . they aren't quitters and they don't blame any one else. You seem bitter about it all perhaps you should watch another sport.

1_beast;918437 wrote:I do think Hillsdale (have not seen them in person) and Smithville may have the size and personnel to match-up well. I think Norwaynes playcalling is somewhat predictable...confidence is high, but watch out for the speed bumps, they might get ya!

Are you saying Smithville, Hillsdale might have a team like Western Reserse with that hugh line and 225# fullback and a Speedster that had 500 plus yards in two games that was going to run wild on us. I watched the game and still don't know who he was because he never got out of the backfield so I could get his Number. Guess what the score was. Norwayne 56 WR 7. Bobcats Stalk!

This is the way I get to Games.

^^ LMAO!!

I can't believe I just gave Paul a rep!

Paul;918511 wrote:Are you saying Smithville, Hillsdale might have a team like Western Reserse with that hugh line and 225# fullback and a Speedster that had 500 plus yards in two games that was going to run wild on us. I watched the game and still don't know who he was because he never got out of the backfield so I could get his Number. Guess what the score was. Norwayne 56 WR 7. Bobcats Stalk!

Read Norwalk Messenger. W.R. was in a bit of trouble after the game. Came out a couple weeks later. Norwayne still would have won but not 56-7. Not an excuse for those kids at all but what they have been doing before games is pretty stupid and since then have shown more of their true potential.

Just like the years where Smithville, Waynedale and Dalton would generally roll over the rest of the league, the new dominate teams are Norwayne and Hillsdale. These two teams have put in the work and have all the momentum right now. That is ok. Honestly, with the exception of Smithville, the rest of the WCAL is terrible. I really feel the Bobcats or Falcons could make a deep run but the lack of competition in the league is not going to help them. Heck, it may keep Hilsdale out of the playoffs at 9-1!

As for the Bears, all coaches get blamed when teams are doing poorly and praised when things are going well. The coaches know that and that will never change. The key right now is are there enough kids in younger grades who will continue to play so they can put the Bears back on top? The 8'th grade class has more boys playing than the entire high school team. I don't think they have lost a game to anyone in jr. high. Bear football will be back but with any small school, you can't be on top forever. That is not the kids fault, the coaches or the parents. It happens because the numbers are not there to sustain success year after year.

The coach will make dumb mistakes. (they all do) The kids will do goofy stunts. (they always have) So what? Stay positive and make the experience the best it can be for the sake of the kids. Let me tell you, it is all over too fast!

Havin Fun;918879 wrote:Just like the years where Smithville, Waynedale and Dalton would generally roll over the rest of the league, the new dominate teams are Norwayne and Hillsdale. These two teams have put in the work and have all the momentum right now. That is ok. Honestly, with the exception of Smithville, the rest of the WCAL is terrible. I really feel the Bobcats or Falcons could make a deep run but the lack of competition in the league is not going to help them. Heck, it may keep Hilsdale out of the playoffs at 9-1!

As for the Bears, all coaches get blamed when teams are doing poorly and praised when things are going well. The coaches know that and that will never change. The key right now is are there enough kids in younger grades who will continue to play so they can put the Bears back on top? The 8'th grade class has more boys playing than the entire high school team. I don't think they have lost a game to anyone in jr. high. Bear football will be back but with any small school, you can't be on top forever. That is not the kids fault, the coaches or the parents. It happens because the numbers are not there to sustain success year after year.

The coach will make dumb mistakes. (they all do) The kids will do goofy stunts. (they always have) So what? Stay positive and make the experience the best it can be for the sake of the kids. Let me tell you, it is all over too fast!

GREAT POST!!!!!

Excellent post, your correct ,it is over quick