Rorschach73;919566 wrote:WCAL FAN

leadership starts at the top with the coaches then it goes to the seniors

how about when the head coach takes his headset off in the middle of the forth the last two games is NOT showing any leadership if anything that is giving up not to mention Zuercher didn't try to score with three minutes left with smithville he rolled over and let them have to shutout

taking the headset off in a blowout shows lack of leadership??? not sure how... wasn't like he was going to get much more from the booth anyway. pretty sure you guys are reaching pretty hard to place blame now.

Rorschach73;919566 wrote:WCAL FAN

leadership starts at the top with the coaches then it goes to the seniors

how about when the head coach takes his headset off in the middle of the forth the last two games is NOT showing any leadership if anything that is giving up not to mention Zuercher didn't try to score with three minutes left with smithville he rolled over and let them have to shutout

Now now Children cut out the blame game, FIND THE DANG PROBLEM AND FIX IT. I know maybe Bush did it.

Paul is coming around. Play calling and play execution lay in two different sets of hands. Ultimately the coach is held responsible, if the plays are poorly executed it is time to find players who can get the job done.

the reason that you dont take your headset off in a blow out is because you are going to have the J.V in the game and there coach is in the box so he should call the plays for them to help them get better also

Rorschach73;919819 wrote:the reason that you dont take your headset off in a blow out is because you are going to have the J.V in the game and there coach is in the box so he should call the plays for them to help them get better also

When our JV's come in the coaches come down from the box and the coach does take of his head set. I have not seen any one say the JV's went in late in the Bears-Smithies game.

Its in the past! Time to get ready for the mighty falcons!!!! One of these weeks there has GOT to be an upset!!!!

Bears dont serve no stinkin walkin tacos...lol GO BEARS!!!!

1_beast;919949 wrote:One of these weeks there has GOT to be an upset!!!!

Maybe Chipps upset the Cats...............:huh::huh:

Bobcat3;919954 wrote:Maybe Chipps upset the Cats...............:huh::huh:

OHHHH !!!!! Good thinking!!!

I think The Bears winning idea better though

Bobcat3;919954 wrote:Maybe Chipps upset the Cats...............:huh::huh:

Stranger things have happened in the WCAL

Bobcat3;919954 wrote:Maybe Chipps upset the Cats...............:huh::huh:

that would be the upset of the century

Rorschach73;919819 wrote:the reason that you dont take your headset off in a blow out is because you are going to have the J.V in the game and there coach is in the box so he should call the plays for them to help them get better also

lol... ya. you're reaching extremely hard. I've never been involved in a game where the head coach hasn't called the plays in. unfortunately I've been in blowouts on the losing and winning side.

the last thing I'm going to say on this... I know there is some dislike of the coach... that's fine but to say he doesn't know the x and o's is garbage and to say he's not a leader is even more ludacris. you truly don't have a clue. his record speaks for itself. he wouldn't have that record if he didn't put his guys in a position to succeed and was not a quality person and leader. can he and his staff do beyer with the play calling and adjustments...I'm sure they can as can any staff. in a 40 point whipping there is more to blame than just the coaches. the players have to take some responsibility for not executing. and like I've said before that line is below average. plus if you haven't noticed...norwayne is a really good team and smithville's line is really big and have turned it around up front since I saw them in the scrimmages. the better teams won. plain and simple.

Rorschach73;919566 wrote:WCAL FAN

leadership starts at the top with the coaches then it goes to the seniors

how about when the head coach takes his headset off in the middle of the forth the last two games is NOT showing any leadership if anything that is giving up not to mention Zuercher didn't try to score with three minutes left with smithville he rolled over and let them have to shutout

Taking your headset off is showing lack of leadership, huh? THIS is exactly what I have been saying over and over again about this forum! Beast, I would ask you for support on this but YOU said the exact same thing after the Smithville game. Do you really feel that taking your headset off late in the game when you are getting your butt whipped is a "lack of leadership" or means that our coach "quit" on the team???

Jmar25...FINALLY a voice of reason.

As I recall, Coach Z was still calling the plays AND he was still teaching/coaching the kids that were in the game. There comes a time when you are down by 5-6 TD's where the guys up in the booth aren't going to help you at all. Rorschach, I am pretty sure Zuercher watched enough film during the week that when it came to that point in the game he was going to call things for those kids that he felt would make them successful. I have heard people on here saying he "quit" on the team because we just ran the ball late in the Smithville game. Our JV QB is a good athlete but his isn't the greatest passer yet, so Z called plays that wouldn't put those kids in a position they weren't used to being in.

It is time to move on but the bad thing is our opponent this Friday may be the best team we have played all year. If that is the case, then we may be in store for another lopsided loss and I just can't wait to hear the "fans" get on here again and rip the coaching staff. I am not quitting on these kids yet, but their RECENT history doesn't paint a very positive picture.

I know that I have been critical of these seniors and maybe I have been pointing the finger at the wrong people. However, I will never place the blame on the coaching because I know what they do each and every day. Maybe the problem is the parents? Could that be? I wonder how many of the complainers on here are parents/family members? I for one, am not! If our kids are hearing at home, the same complaints I hear on here then our coaches can do everything in the world and it will NEVER work. Plus, when I walk along the "fence" and hear the people that I KNOW are parents doing nothing but 2nd guessing the coaches/players...I have to believe they are doing it at home. What a shame! That is a battle that our coaches will NEVER win.

Having fun...what you consider "goofy", I consider offensive. Doing an obscene gesture with your hands on the front cover of a sports program to me, is NOT goofy. See that is the problem...we have come to just accept those types of things from our kids as "goofy" (yuck, yuck..real funny). In the past, kids would have NEVER thought of doing that but that isn't the case anymore. When will it ever change??? Also, you talk about this 8th grade class. One class will NOT save this program. We need the grades above them and below them to be competitive as well. Heck, the 9th grade class had their best football player quit because his "heart wasn't into it". Seems to be a recurring theme with our boys right now. Is that the coaches fault? We had a class in the early-mid 2000's that was supposed to be the "savior" but they had no good classes around them. They won the league their senior year but I think they shared it with 2 other teams. That was the ONLY good year they had. Plus, what a team does in junior high means NOTHING when it comes to what they can do in high school. If we don't get rid of this "oh well" attitude around here then we will never get out of it!!!

thedemoralizer7;920193 wrote:that would be the upset of the century

I think your right, lots of young kids will get play time for Norwayne in this one.

I agree and disagree with many posts on here...however there is simply too much to go into...im not putting an essay on here. I come on these boards for commradery and fun! When my son competes...i get quiet...talk about others...ya dig? This coaching staff has the best interests of the kids in their heart, no coach does it for the glory...they do it for LOVE of the GAME!!!!!

People take these posts entirely to serious and personally, (myself included).

Armchair QB's have been around forever and will always be around! Over the last few years I have questioned the coaching, the playcalling, the offense, the defense, the fans, the price for parking and who has the best damn food.

Take a deep breath, hang on for a ride and see what happens Friday! Because Im here to tell ya, Norwaynes sophomore class has been successful at every level and NWN sophs have done quite well too. The future is NOW...these kids are coming of age. Until Hillsdale gets knocked off THEY are STILL UNDEFEATED AND DEFENDING WCAL CHAMPS!!!! Bears can make a statement this week and finish the season on a high note!

1_beast;920293 wrote: who has the best damn food.

Huskies have the best coffee
Black River has the best chicken sandwhich
never had one but Miyagi heard the Bears have the best corndog and arm chair qbs
Smithville has the best 50/50
Hillsdale has the best auction....the walking taco is not a food......
Rittman has the best screen pass
Orrville has the best parking ( the open bus garage if Miyagi remembers right)

Miyai is just sayin

leaving for home this morning....Miyagi will try to bring home some of this nice weather for you guys by Friday

ps here in Montana/Wyoming HS sorts are headline news.......sports on the news last night were HS vball, HS golf, and HS football..... a little bit about college...guess that is what happens when you do not have a pro team locally......kind of refreshing actually.....

Mr Miyagi;919229 wrote:O TRAP...... YOU DONT LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE CAPS KEY LOCKED HUH ?? GOOD THING TO KNOW

I don't dislike it as much as think it makes people sound like they're yelling or look like a grandparent trying to use a computer for the first time. That's all.

Bloody Toothbrush;919170 wrote:Otrap....last week is a past week. I'm over it and moving forward. I didn't read the whole reply because I refuse to be killed by your secret weapon....death by multiquote.
excuse the personal attacks....it's one of my many character flaws. Good luck to the Smithies.

It's all good, BT. No harm, no foul.

I do tend to let the multiquotes get away from me.

Good luck to you in the coming weeks.

Northwestern coming to Smithville this week, and smithies going to Rittman the week after. Time to get things fine tuned for the showdown in Smithville, when the Bobcats come calling on Oct. 21st.

You forgot Hillsdales sloppy natchos, excellent.

Here's to a good game this week in the Creek. (and of course another Falcon W)

Region 19 rankings from Joe Eitel
Tough region as 2 teams at 6-0 are 9th and 12th.

Rank	W-L	ID #	City	School	Average	Level 1	Level 2	L2 divisor
1	6-0	1742	Bucyrus	Wynford	12.3500	24.0	83.5	100
2	6-0	1300	West Lafayette	Ridgewood	10.9500	24.0	69.5	100
3	6-0	1084	Nelsonville	Nelsonville-York	10.2194	25.5	58.5	98
4	6-0	664	Columbus	Grandview Heights	9.6000	27.0	51.0	100
5	6-0	1270	West Portsmouth	Portsmouth West	9.5667	26.5	51.5	100
6	6-0	1586	Lucasville	Valley	8.0884	25.5	38.0	99
7	6-0	434	Ashland	Crestview	7.2167	23.5	33.0	100
8	4-2	334	Centerburg	Centerburg	7.1333	15.5	45.5	100
9	6-0	720	Jeromesville	Hillsdale	7.0667	23.5	31.5	100
10	5-1	1696	Wheelersburg	Wheelersburg	6.9333	21.5	33.5	100
11	4-2	410	Gahanna	Columbus Academy	6.7020	19.0	35.0	99
12	6-0	108	Albany	Alexander	6.6667	25.0	25.0	100
13	4-2	1426	Smithville	Smithville	6.5333	15.5	39.5	100
14	4-2	314	Cardington	Cardington-Lincoln	5.7833	17.0	29.5	100
15	5-1	866	Baltimore	Liberty Union	5.5000	22.5	17.5	100
16	4-2	1072	Mount Gilead	Mount Gilead	4.8000	15.0	23.0	100
17	3-3	614	Fredericktown	Fredericktown	4.7364	12.5	26.0	98
18	2-3	458	Coal Grove	Dawson-Bryant	4.1034	9.0	20.5	89
19	3-3	1640	Apple Creek	Waynedale	3.9667	13.0	18.0	100
20	2-4	900	Loudonville	Loudonville	3.6833	8.0	23.5	100
21	1-5	1186	Oak Hill	Oak Hill	2.1833	3.5	16.0	100
22	2-4	578	Stewart	Federal Hocking	1.6500	7.5	4.0	100
23	2-4	442	Crooksville	Crooksville	1.6000	7.5	3.5	100
24	1-5	498	Howard	East Knox	1.4643	4.5	7.0	98
25	1-5	1318	Ironton	Rock Hill	1.0167	4.0	3.5	100
26	1-5	204	Sugar Grove	Berne Union	0.9333	3.5	3.5	100
27	1-5	1304	Rittman	Rittman	0.7500	4.5	0.0	100

Personally, i think its about time to stop beating a dead horse. Its obvious that there is no way everyone is going to see eye to eye on the Waynedale situation. Dont get me wrong, i hate to see a season like this for my Bears, but ultimately it boils down to this. Its highschool football. its not life or death.

Well said proudguard04

proudguard04;920479 wrote:Personally, i think its about time to stop beating a dead horse. Its obvious that there is no way everyone is going to see eye to eye on the Waynedale situation. Dont get me wrong, i hate to see a season like this for my Bears, but ultimately it boils down to this. Its highschool football. its not life or death.

This. Stop beating a dead horse.

Looks like the Falcons need a little help to get in this year. C'mon WCAL if you have lost to the Falcons, start winning some games.