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mt1514
Posts: 177
Feb 27, 2011 7:51pm
So Fairless isn't going to be any better than last few years?
riders1
Posts: 2,275
Feb 27, 2011 10:10pm
THE4RINGZ;694036 wrote:Fairless is a nice pick up for the Smithies. Confidence builder on the field, and some points from a D3 school for the 2-3 games they will win.
Fairless only won 1 game last year, ( DII Timken) and was only close in 1 other, so this is not a very good addition to Smithville's schedule, unless there is a vast improvement in the Falcons they would be better off with a DIV or DV with 3 to 5 wins.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Feb 27, 2011 10:33pm
Prolly not.mt1514;694047 wrote:So Fairless isn't going to be any better than last few years?
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Feb 27, 2011 10:35pm
Ergo my statement "confidence builder on the field." Smithville needs to get off to a quick start.riders1;694190 wrote:Fairless only won 1 game last year, ( DII Timken) and was only close in 1 other, so this is not a very good addition to Smithville's schedule, unless there is a vast improvement in the Falcons they would be better off with a DIV or DV
with 3 to 5 wins.
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Feb 28, 2011 8:10am
fairless will be a confidence builder, but not much else. I think Dalton having Timken on their schedule is only slightly better - a D2 team that will give you a bunch of first level points and that's about it. (you do get the bonus of playing at fawcett every other year, though)
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Feb 28, 2011 8:17am
Timken is a nice early season game for Dalton because they usually have similar speed as Dalton. Something Dalton doesn't usually see again until the play offs. Other that yeah playing at Fawcett is the only other benefit.
Mr. Russell
Posts: 422
Feb 28, 2011 12:16pm
Smithville didn't want Fairless but the area schools we contacted weren't interested. Also, Fairless play a freshman quarterback last year, I am sure over the next two years they will definitely improve.
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was_that_it
Posts: 151
Feb 28, 2011 12:24pm
I could be mistaken, but I believe Hillsdale has Bucyrus week 2. Delphos St Johns was a 1 year tango.
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Havin Fun
Posts: 336
Feb 28, 2011 4:51pm
1. Hillsdale
2. Smithville
3. Norwayne
4. Waynedale
5. Northwestern
6. Dalton
7. Rittman
8. Chippewa
I see 1-4 being a toss-up each time they meet which means they could finish in any order.
If Hillsdale can replace some linemen, look-out.
If Bates stays healthy look out.
If Norwayne and Waynedale can find some more linemen as well they should be tough. Both have good skill positions coming back. Both lost kickers who wons games for them over the last couple years.
Lots of talent but lots of holes as well on my top 4.
The bottom two will be awful. Dalton may win just 2-3 games. I see NW struggling to hit 4 wins.
2. Smithville
3. Norwayne
4. Waynedale
5. Northwestern
6. Dalton
7. Rittman
8. Chippewa
I see 1-4 being a toss-up each time they meet which means they could finish in any order.
If Hillsdale can replace some linemen, look-out.
If Bates stays healthy look out.
If Norwayne and Waynedale can find some more linemen as well they should be tough. Both have good skill positions coming back. Both lost kickers who wons games for them over the last couple years.
Lots of talent but lots of holes as well on my top 4.
The bottom two will be awful. Dalton may win just 2-3 games. I see NW struggling to hit 4 wins.
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mt1514
Posts: 177
Feb 28, 2011 7:39pm
Hillsdale also has to replace Faulk and Moore, huge shoes to fill.
dhs22p
Posts: 431
Mar 1, 2011 12:33pm
Im weirdly excited for this next years Dalton team. The reason is for the first time in a few years we won't have big expectations on our shoulders. We may not be good though but still excited. Any Dalton fans know if we kept the same 3 non-league games?
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Mar 1, 2011 12:40pm
The first thing that needs to change at Fairless is the culture. Absolutely terrific fans and booster support. But on the field, constant coaching changes, disgrunteld players, lack of any consistency will keep them down unless they change that. This new coach is entering his second year, so they can hope for the best. The freshman quarterback that started last year is decent, and has a long way to go, but hopefully he keeps the right attitude and develops,Mr. Russell;694619 wrote:Smithville didn't want Fairless but the area schools we contacted weren't interested. Also, Fairless play a freshman quarterback last year, I am sure over the next two years they will definitely improve.
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Mar 1, 2011 7:23pm
dhs - i believe we are keeping the same non league games, at least i have not heard otherwise. I can't say i have the same optimism as you do for next year, there will just be too many 9th and 10th graders playing in all likelihood. The one advantage Dalton has in comparison to chippewa and rittman is the kids expect to win. That is worth more than you think at the high school level. That alone is worth a couple wins most seasons. I do believe the bulldogs will only be down a year or two before they get back in the mix.
riders1
Posts: 2,275
Mar 1, 2011 9:34pm
1486wd;694443 wrote:fairless will be a confidence builder, but not much else. I think Dalton having Timken on their schedule is only slightly better - a D2 team that will give you a bunch of first level points and that's about it. (you do get the bonus of playing at fawcett every other year, though)
Timken being a DII does not give you a bunch of points, only 1 more point than a DIV school, so you have to consider the amount of wins you can expect to see from your opponent. which in Timken's case are 1 or 2 while a decent DIV could give 4 to 6 wins thus more potential points.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Mar 1, 2011 9:45pm
Timken is always just one or two players away from a .500 season.
riders1
Posts: 2,275
Mar 2, 2011 4:34pm
THE4RINGZ;696550 wrote:Timken is always just one or two players away from a .500 season.
And only 3 or 4 wins from .500 .
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Mar 2, 2011 7:33pm
i don't think anyone's arguing about timkens prowess on the football field, however, i do think a 2 win timken team does you better than a 2 win fairless team (but not much much).
riders1
Posts: 2,275
Mar 2, 2011 11:05pm
Not really, as they are in the same league, 2 wins by either probably get the same points unless it's Fairless beating Timken, then Fairless would give you half a point more.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Mar 2, 2011 11:20pm
Timken had a nice JV squad last season. Well I mean the 14 kids on the squad played well.
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Mar 3, 2011 4:15pm
riders - i wasn't talking in terms of playoff points, I was talking in terms of defending athletes.
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thedemoralizer7
Posts: 245
Mar 7, 2011 7:26pm
this cool weather reminds me of football! not to terribly far away!
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beverboy1
Posts: 514
Mar 9, 2011 5:27pm
1486wd;696337 wrote:dhs - i believe we are keeping the same non league games, at least i have not heard otherwise. I can't say i have the same optimism as you do for next year, there will just be too many 9th and 10th graders playing in all likelihood. The one advantage Dalton has in comparison to chippewa and rittman is the kids expect to win. That is worth more than you think at the high school level. That alone is worth a couple wins most seasons. I do believe the bulldogs will only be down a year or two before they get back in the mix.
we do have same non league gms , but i think we go back to canton this coming yr
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beverboy1
Posts: 514
Mar 9, 2011 5:38pm
i agree with u its going to be kinda exciting to see how those soph play . i really think those kids played really good last yr as freshman on jv u have to remember are jv tm last yr was 80% freshmensdhs22p;695832 wrote:Im weirdly excited for this next years Dalton team. The reason is for the first time in a few years we won't have big expectations on our shoulders. We may not be good though but still excited. Any Dalton fans know if we kept the same 3 non-league games?
dhs22p
Posts: 431
Mar 9, 2011 9:29pm
beverboy1;705421 wrote:we do have same non league gms , but i think we go back to canton this coming yr
So we play only 4 home games this year? Or did we change another game?
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1486wd
Posts: 835
Mar 9, 2011 9:55pm
yea, the freshman did hold their own last year fairly well. I actually think they will be ok on the line, but the skill positions are definitely worrisome, especially at qb. I had heard that masters may not be allowed to play due to concussions and he has been the jv qb the last 2 years. if that's the case, you will be going in with someone at qb with no varsity and almost no jv experience - that's tough.