I Wear Pants;638801 wrote:Yet there are still lots of people who want abstinence to be a focus in sex ed instead of things that you know, actually work/could happen or some would rather schools not teach it at all.

Clearly that's a great idea.

CenterBHSFan;638928 wrote:Well, it DOES look to me to more we: provide free condoms at schools, more open sex-ed classes, schools and doctors keeping secrets from parents - the higher teenage pregnancy gets.

In MY eyes, that's not exactly trump, either.

It seems to me that as more time goes by, parents are becoming less involved and teenage pregnancies are rising. Who believes that "more" is better?

Yep, we should definitely not teach real sex ed. It's working really well.

ccrunner609;638722 wrote:LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Now I know from experience that as schools cut health curriculum, things like this occur. I would bet that the lack of proper education is a major factor. I bet they cut the health classes.

CenterBHSFan;639188 wrote:Ok, you're not understanding what I'm saying, and might not want to. That's fine, I can understand.

ccrunner609;638722 wrote: Now I know from experience that as schools cut health curriculum, things like this occur. I would bet that the lack of proper education is a major factor. I bet they cut the health classes.

Tobias Fünke;639234 wrote:Two thoughts:

1) When I was coaching at Libbey an administrator said the majority of girls get pregnant on purpose, and then attempt to convince the government their baby is mentally handicapped to get a bigger check. A system that rewards failure? I don't get it.

2) 10% of my high school class now has kids. I went to Cardinal Stritch and graduated in 2008. What happened? One girl got pregnant accidentally and the rest of the idiot girls got jealous/envious of the Facebook pictures and intentionally got themselves pregnant at the nice ol' age of 19. Fucking dumb. But hey, they can post status updates about their "family" and their "princess." Get the fuck out of here with that stupidity.

Mulva;639294 wrote:How the fuck can you not know how pregnancy works by high school, even with a lack of formal education?

CenterBHSFan;639972 wrote:Pants, alright, I'll type slower and hopefully get my point across a little better lol

OK. Over the last 20 years or so, the sex-ed system has steadily increased in depth. And it just seems that the more we increase it or develope it even more explicitly, the higher the pregnancy numbers get. So, to increase it more just seems to be adding fuel to the fire.
I don't know any one thing that is to blame, whether its less parenting, social decline, sexually advanced tv, or whatever. I don't know.
But the track we're on just flat out isn't working. And I have to agree with the others who say that they don't believe teens know about sex and the consequences; barring some fanatical religious sect who practices clitectomies and castration.

elbuckeye28;640003 wrote:First of all, I agree that there are a number of reasons for the high rate of teen pregnancies with poor parenting being a major reason. That being said, contrary to what supporters suggest, research indicates that abstinence-only education only increases the pro-abstinence attitude in the short term and does not delay the onset of sexual activity. This can cause a problem because students then may not be aware of the contraceptions available, let alone the correct usage and their effectiveness that they would have likely gotten from an abstinence-plus type program. I think the fact that many are still having this argument shows how taboo the subject of sex really is in the United States, especially compared to Europe, where the teen pregnancy rate is much lower. Personally, until this becomes are more accepted topic in this country, many teenagers will continue to make these decisions without the proper knowledge of the repercussions that are possible to ensue.

elbuckeye28;640003 wrote:First of all, I agree that there are a number of reasons for the high rate of teen pregnancies with poor parenting being a major reason. That being said, contrary to what supporters suggest, research indicates that abstinence-only education only increases the pro-abstinence attitude in the short term and does not delay the onset of sexual activity. This can cause a problem because students then may not be aware of the contraceptions available, let alone the correct usage and their effectiveness that they would have likely gotten from an abstinence-plus type program. I think the fact that many are still having this argument shows how taboo the subject of sex really is in the United States, especially compared to Europe, where the teen pregnancy rate is much lower. Personally, until this becomes are more accepted topic in this country, many teenagers will continue to make these decisions without the proper knowledge of the repercussions that are possible to ensue.

I Wear Pants;640359 wrote: What I'm asking is why do you assume it's the more in-depth sex ed that is causing the higher rates and not poor sex-ed quality or economic trends or parenting or something else?

I Wear Pants;641090 wrote:I meant to quote Center for that part. Sorry for being retarded (me, not you).