Commander of Awesome
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Jun 21, 2011 9:29am
Cleveland Browns QB Colt McCoy and LB Scott Fujita planning full-squad workouts
CLEVELAND -- Browns quarterback Colt McCoy and linebacker Scott Fujita are planning a fullsquad minicamp for the team if the lockout lingers on, McCoy told the Plain Dealer Monday night.
"We're talking about it and I think it will happen,'' McCoy said. "Things are progressiing, but it's pending the lockout. The great thing is, guys are willing to come and I know we'll get some great work in on both sides of the ball.''
McCoy has already organized three offensive skill sessions, including two at the University of Texas and one at Baldwin-Wallace in Berea.
"The thing that makes it great is that the guys are so willing to travel to these workouts, to pay for some or all of their travel expenses and to work so hard,'' McCoy said.
He said teammates have helped pay for the expenses of the rookies and younger players. "We're definitely helping each other out,'' he said. "And it will all pay off.''
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/06/cleveland_browns_qb_colt_mccoy_5.html
CLEVELAND -- Browns quarterback Colt McCoy and linebacker Scott Fujita are planning a fullsquad minicamp for the team if the lockout lingers on, McCoy told the Plain Dealer Monday night.
"We're talking about it and I think it will happen,'' McCoy said. "Things are progressiing, but it's pending the lockout. The great thing is, guys are willing to come and I know we'll get some great work in on both sides of the ball.''
McCoy has already organized three offensive skill sessions, including two at the University of Texas and one at Baldwin-Wallace in Berea.
"The thing that makes it great is that the guys are so willing to travel to these workouts, to pay for some or all of their travel expenses and to work so hard,'' McCoy said.
He said teammates have helped pay for the expenses of the rookies and younger players. "We're definitely helping each other out,'' he said. "And it will all pay off.''
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/06/cleveland_browns_qb_colt_mccoy_5.html
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 21, 2011 9:46am
I like McCoy's leadership. Hopefully it equates to wins.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jun 21, 2011 10:26am
He's definitely got leadership, intelligence, and other intangibles you want in your QB.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 21, 2011 10:58am
Yeah, I could never see Derek Anderson organizing anything like this...
like_that
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Jun 21, 2011 11:03am
BR1986FB;808478 wrote:Yeah, I could never see Derek Anderson organizing anything like this...
He would cry, because it is too hard to organize large gatherings.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 21, 2011 11:04am
like_that;808486 wrote:He would cry, because it is too hard to organize large gatherings.
And throw the first ever Off Season INT that would be tacked on to the regular season. Helping us lose to the bungals and out of the playoffs.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 21, 2011 11:10am
like_that;808486 wrote:He would cry, because it is too hard to count past three
fixed
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jun 21, 2011 11:59am
BR1986FB;808478 wrote:Yeah, I could never see Derek Anderson organizing anything like this...
If it didn't involve hookers and blow...I'm sure he'd want nothing to do with it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 21, 2011 12:05pm
Writerbuckeye;808566 wrote:If it didn't involve hookers and blow...I'm sure he'd want nothing to do with it.
True story...good thing DA wasn't around when Charles White played here.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 21, 2011 7:22pm
Uggghh..
Cleveland Browns doing their research on Terrelle Pryor for NFL supplemental draft
Published: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:03 PM Updated: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:04 PM
Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns are intrigued enough by former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor to do their due diligence on him for the supplemental draft, a league source told The Plain Dealer.
Whether or not the Browns submit a bid for Pryor remains to be seen. Because Pryor hasn't yet officially entered the draft -- which could take place in mid-to-late July -- the Browns can't comment on him.
Coach Pat Shurmur, speaking Monday at Cleveland Browns Stadium after working with kids at the team's youth football camp, declined to say whether or not the Browns would make a pitch for the controversial quarterback. Teams can submit bids in the round they wish to draft the player and are awarded the player if he's still there. The team then forfeits the corresponding pick in next year's draft.
The Browns will start camp with Colt McCoy as their starting quarterback and Seneca Wallace as the backup. Jake Delhomme, currently under contract at $5.4 million for next season, will only return if the two sides agree to a reduced salary. But Delhomme might want a chance to go somewhere as a No. 2.
If the Browns deem Pryor a worthwhile project, they could draft him and use him as their No. 3. But opinions on him vary.
NFL Network's Mike Mayock recently said "I would set the over-under line on the fourth round. Can somebody take him in the third round? Absolutely."
Mayock said Pryor can be used in wildcat packages in his rookie year "while you develop his skill set."
ESPN's Jon Gruden -- a protege and close confidante of Browns President Mike Holmgren -- thinks Pryor has tremendous potential. Gruden, who highly recommended McCoy to Holmgren, has already filmed a Terrelle Pryor QB Camp special to air on ESPN June 30.
"This is a freak of nature," Gruden said in April at Ohio State's annual football clinic. "This guy is really something with the ball in his hands."
Gruden disagreed with colleague Mel Kiper Jr., who thinks Pryor would make a better NFL tight end.
"Terrelle Pryor can run and he can throw and he's a hell of a competitor," Gruden said. "You might have to cater your offense, to a degree, towards his strengths, but I think this guy can develop his passing."
Extra points: Shurmur said running back Montario Hardesty should be ready for full participation in training camp after recovering from surgery to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/06/cleveland_browns_doing_their_r.html
Cleveland Browns doing their research on Terrelle Pryor for NFL supplemental draft
Published: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:03 PM Updated: Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:04 PM
Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns are intrigued enough by former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor to do their due diligence on him for the supplemental draft, a league source told The Plain Dealer.
Whether or not the Browns submit a bid for Pryor remains to be seen. Because Pryor hasn't yet officially entered the draft -- which could take place in mid-to-late July -- the Browns can't comment on him.
Coach Pat Shurmur, speaking Monday at Cleveland Browns Stadium after working with kids at the team's youth football camp, declined to say whether or not the Browns would make a pitch for the controversial quarterback. Teams can submit bids in the round they wish to draft the player and are awarded the player if he's still there. The team then forfeits the corresponding pick in next year's draft.
The Browns will start camp with Colt McCoy as their starting quarterback and Seneca Wallace as the backup. Jake Delhomme, currently under contract at $5.4 million for next season, will only return if the two sides agree to a reduced salary. But Delhomme might want a chance to go somewhere as a No. 2.
If the Browns deem Pryor a worthwhile project, they could draft him and use him as their No. 3. But opinions on him vary.
NFL Network's Mike Mayock recently said "I would set the over-under line on the fourth round. Can somebody take him in the third round? Absolutely."
Mayock said Pryor can be used in wildcat packages in his rookie year "while you develop his skill set."
ESPN's Jon Gruden -- a protege and close confidante of Browns President Mike Holmgren -- thinks Pryor has tremendous potential. Gruden, who highly recommended McCoy to Holmgren, has already filmed a Terrelle Pryor QB Camp special to air on ESPN June 30.
"This is a freak of nature," Gruden said in April at Ohio State's annual football clinic. "This guy is really something with the ball in his hands."
Gruden disagreed with colleague Mel Kiper Jr., who thinks Pryor would make a better NFL tight end.
"Terrelle Pryor can run and he can throw and he's a hell of a competitor," Gruden said. "You might have to cater your offense, to a degree, towards his strengths, but I think this guy can develop his passing."
Extra points: Shurmur said running back Montario Hardesty should be ready for full participation in training camp after recovering from surgery to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/06/cleveland_browns_doing_their_r.html
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 21, 2011 8:20pm
So Gruden, one of the most sought after coaches in the game thinks Pryor can throw....but what do I know. Don't let footwedge or dynasty see this.
br- why are you pessimistic about the Browns drafting him?
br- why are you pessimistic about the Browns drafting him?
Commander of Awesome
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Jun 21, 2011 9:19pm
Bc he's seen TP play.Pick6;809146 wrote:
br- why are you pessimistic about the Browns drafting him?
Pick6
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Jun 21, 2011 9:41pm
Commander of Awesome;809208 wrote:Bc he's seen TP play.
and so have I. I've seen him lead and carry his team to what seemed like many victories. However, I've also seen him make a couple bad decisions a game. Sometimes getting bailed out, and sometimes turning it over.
Commander of Awesome
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Jun 21, 2011 10:33pm
We have different opinions on Pryor.
Crimson streak
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Jun 21, 2011 10:37pm
Pick6;809227 wrote:and so have I. I've seen him lead and carry his team to what seemed like many victories. However, I've also seen him make a couple bad decisions a game. Sometimes getting bailed out, and sometimes turning it over.
Carry his team? Lmao Ohio state won in spite of Pryor not bc of him. gotta love the homers
Pick6
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Jun 21, 2011 10:40pm
Crimson streak;809353 wrote:Carry his team? Lmao Ohio state won in spite of Pryor not bc of him. gotta love the homers
he doesnt play for ohio state anymore and many blame him for the current state of the program, why would I homer him? Show me more than 1 game where they won "in spite" of Pryor.
Pick6
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Jun 21, 2011 10:43pm
but i guess john gruden is a homer as well. (lol)
like_that
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Jun 21, 2011 10:47pm
Pick6;809365 wrote:but i guess john gruden is a homer as well. (lol)
No, but he sure seems to fall in love with every QB.
Pick6
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Jun 21, 2011 10:53pm
like_that;809371 wrote:No, but he sure seems to fall in love with every QB.
agree with that..but then again he is having his QB camps with top college quarterbacks who all have potential, not the quarterback for Central Michigan or something.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 21, 2011 11:05pm
September is correct..whoever said osu won in spite of Pryor is a God damn buffoon...there isnt much NFL talent on osu right now, offensively.
That being said, gruden does love about every qb so u can't really take his opinion seriously. Pryor will not be a good.NFL quarterback IMO
That being said, gruden does love about every qb so u can't really take his opinion seriously. Pryor will not be a good.NFL quarterback IMO
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 22, 2011 6:57am
Well I thought Newton was a late first round pick at best, and more of a 2nd rounder.
But there is a considerable difference between Newton and Pryor. Newton is a legitimate QB prospect while Pryor needs a new position.
But there is a considerable difference between Newton and Pryor. Newton is a legitimate QB prospect while Pryor needs a new position.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 22, 2011 7:48am
Pick6;809146 wrote: br- why are you pessimistic about the Browns drafting him?
Because he's a project. He's a TE/WR, at best.
Shurmur's WCO is predicated on precision and ACCURACY, two things that Pryor does NOT possess. Pryor can throw a football a country mile and probably through a brick wall but that's not what this offense is looking for. There's a reason that Colt McCoy was the #2 QB on the Rams draft board when Shurmur was there...he's ACCURATE. Not saying McCoy will be the second coming but he FITS Shurmur's WC system.
Let someone else toss their draft pick at a project.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jun 22, 2011 7:57am
Agree 100%. I think Pryor can succeed in the league but his throwing motion causes too many passes to be off target. He got away with that in college but he will need some work to succeed in the NFL.BR1986FB;809536 wrote:Because he's a project. He's a TE/WR, at best.
Shurmur's WCO is predicated on precision and ACCURACY, two things that Pryor does NOT possess. Pryor can throw a football a country mile and probably through a brick wall but that's not what this offense is looking for. There's a reason that Colt McCoy was the #2 QB on the Rams draft board when Shurmur was there...he's ACCURATE. Not saying McCoy will be the second coming but he FITS Shurmur's WC system.
Let someone else toss their draft pick at a project.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 22, 2011 8:29am
I have no issue with Pryor's athletic skills but if he is hellbent on being a QB, Cleveland is NOT the place for him.
lhslep134
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Jun 22, 2011 8:45am
SportsAndLady;809400 wrote:.there isnt much NFL talent on osu right now, offensively.
Because having NFL talent is the same thing as still having much more talent than your opponent.....
It doesn't matter if they are NFL talent or not, they're still better than everyone on their schedule talent wise.
To think otherwise is borderline insane.