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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 14, 2011 8:03pm
Joe feelin' the love....
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/21646/power-rankings-top-10-left-tackles
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/21646/power-rankings-top-10-left-tackles
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 15, 2011 8:15am
Paul Kuharsky is a hack. 3rd? Behind Roos? HOMER Pick. Donald Penn was interesting as I have never heard of him being considered top 10 before. Must have really improved this past season.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jun 15, 2011 8:19am
like_that;802079 wrote:espn ESPN
RT @mortreport: NFL owners & players' negotiating teams meeting today in Wash DC area. Both sides in deal-making mode - http://es.pn/m6KwM3
Good, get this shit done.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2011 8:33am
LOL
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 15, 2011 9:12am
BR1986FB;803026 wrote:
LOL
LOL, I need that shirt.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2011 9:33am
And people in Hell want ice water...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/brady-quinn-wants-in-on-qb-competition/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/brady-quinn-wants-in-on-qb-competition/
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 15, 2011 9:40am
BR1986FB;803063 wrote:And people in Hell want ice water...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/15/brady-quinn-wants-in-on-qb-competition/
If he couldn't get it done in Cleveland with 4 pro bowlers on offense (Lewis, Winslow, Edwards, Thomas) what makes him think he can get it done in Denver?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 15, 2011 9:42am
Commander of Awesome;803067 wrote:If he couldn't get it done in Cleveland with 4 pro bowlers on offense (Lewis, Winslow, Edwards, Thomas) what makes him think he can get it done in Denver?
Is still say that Orton is that team's best chance to win NOW.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 15, 2011 10:14am
BR1986FB;803069 wrote:Is still say that Orton is that team's best chance to win NOW.
With Tebow playing H-Back and Tarzjane holding the clipboard.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 16, 2011 6:03pm
ESPN thinks the Browns should take a flier on Toilet Paper....
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/28572/browns-should-take-flier-on-terrelle-pryor?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ObrNewswire+%28OBR+Newswire%29
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/28572/browns-should-take-flier-on-terrelle-pryor?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ObrNewswire+%28OBR+Newswire%29
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jun 16, 2011 6:17pm
BR1986FB;804893 wrote:ESPN thinks the Browns should take a flier on Toilet Paper....
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/28572/browns-should-take-flier-on-terrelle-pryor?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ObrNewswire+%28OBR+Newswire%29
It may not be a bad idea if they could land him in the 4th round. They have 2 4th round picks next year. And Holmgren is the QB guy. And like the article says if he doesn't pan out as a QB, There's always the WR position.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jun 16, 2011 8:18pm
royal_k;804907 wrote:It may not be a bad idea if they could land him in the 4th round. They have 2 4th round picks next year. And Holmgren is the QB guy. And like the article says if he doesn't pan out as a QB, There's always the WR position.
Except for the fact that he's a POS.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jun 16, 2011 11:10pm
iclfan2;804983 wrote:Except for the fact that he's a POS.
This is true.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 17, 2011 1:56am
No way do I want Pryor on the Browns.
Now if we could somehow swing the other OSU QB to come and play for the Browns, I'd be all for it.
Now if we could somehow swing the other OSU QB to come and play for the Browns, I'd be all for it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 17, 2011 5:05am
Osi Umenyiora wants out of NY...flier? If so, what do you trade for him.
And no thanks on the Troy Smith implication. Can that just not die? Browns have NO interest in him whatsoever.
And no thanks on the Troy Smith implication. Can that just not die? Browns have NO interest in him whatsoever.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 17, 2011 9:15am
I'm not sure about Osi's age, but I know he has an injury history and seems to have been in the league for a long time. I wouldnt give up top draft picks for him.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 17, 2011 1:45pm
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 17, 2011 2:01pm
In other news, water is wet. Nothing that we havent been saying in here since Feb.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 17, 2011 2:14pm
Commander of Awesome;805718 wrote:In other news, water is wet. Nothing that we havent been saying in here since Feb.
Besides that Shitsburgh shill, Florio, getting in his usual 'Cuyahoga River caught on fire" (or other anti-Cleveland) cheapshot in...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 20, 2011 8:16am
About the Browns ...
1. I've been doing some work on how the Browns want their new West Coast offense to work. As one operative told me, "It's quarterback friendly, but the quarterback must be efficient, accurate and have timing with the receivers." That's why the Browns are thrilled about the various player workouts being run by quarterback Colt McCoy. While you can't install the offense without coaches, linemen, etc., being there -- you can have the quarterbacks and receivers working on the type of patterns that will be used.
2. Based on some research, I've learned that St. Louis had McCoy ranked as the No. 2 quarterback in the 2010 draft, behind Sam Bradford -- their top pick. The Rams coaching staff (and that includes current Browns head coach Pat Shurmur) liked McCoy because they believed he'd be very effective in the offense. That 73 percent completion rate in his last two years at Texas along with McCoy's leadership traits made him attractive.
3. His lack of size -- optimistically listed at 6-1 -- was not a major negative. The Rams' (and now the Browns') form of the West Coast offense will have the quarterback moving around the pocket and delivering quick-strike short and medium passes -- waiting for a chance to surprise the defense with a throw downfield. Shurmur definitely was impressed with McCoy when the Rams researched and interviewed him in 2010.
4. So the West Coast offense requires an accurate, precision passer. That's why it's strange when there is an ESPN story and some suggestions from fans that the Browns grab former OSU quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft. Why? The things this offense requires are the weakest parts of Pryor's game. As for making him a receiver, that is a long-term project -- assuming it works at all.
5. The Browns also have Seneca Wallace, who has been helping McCoy and the receivers at the second Camp Colt. Yes, Wallace is athletic, but what makes him a fit in the West Coast offense is his career 60 percent completion rate. He completed 63 percent last year.
6. Accuracy is key because receivers must be connected with passes in stride. Consider that in 2009-10, Browns QBs completed only 49 percent of their passes. McCoy was at 60 percent last season.
7. Tight end Ben Watson led the Browns with 40 catches for first downs. Then came running back Peyton Hillis (25), receiver Mohamed Massaquoi (24) and slot receiver Chansi Stuckey (21). So no receiver recorded more than 24 first downs. The Rams had three receivers with at least that many: Danny Amendola (35), Brandon Gibson (33) and Daniel Fell (24). Amendola was an undrafted 5-11 receiver from Texas Tech in 2009. He caught 43 passes as a rookie, 85 last season. The Browns believe they can find someone from their current group of receivers -- Brian Robiskie, Massaquoi or rookie Greg Little -- who can surprise and thrive in the offense.
8. In St. Louis, Shurmur's offense threw 590 passes compared to 429 runs last season. In 2009, it was 543 passes to 411 runs with a collection of Marc Bulger, Kyle Boller and Keith Null at quarterback. Steven Jackson carried the ball 330 and 324 times in the last two seasons, but the Rams rarely gave the ball to anyone else.
9. By comparison, the Browns threw 478 passes compared to 413 runs in 2010. It was 443 passes, 498 rushes in 2009. So the play calling will swing more toward passing, but the Browns believe the passes will be more successful because they are shorter. But the real advantage may be the Browns matching their quarterback to the offense.
10. But the Browns believe the West Coast offense will help the running game. In Shurmur's two years calling the plays, Steven Jackson gained 1,241 and 1,416 yards for the Rams, averaging 326 carries. Because Peyton Hillis (270 carries for 1,177 yards) takes such a beating, the Browns need Montario Hardesty to stay healthy -- and it would be wise to sign a veteran running back.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2011/06/terry_plutos_talkin_about_pat.html
1. I've been doing some work on how the Browns want their new West Coast offense to work. As one operative told me, "It's quarterback friendly, but the quarterback must be efficient, accurate and have timing with the receivers." That's why the Browns are thrilled about the various player workouts being run by quarterback Colt McCoy. While you can't install the offense without coaches, linemen, etc., being there -- you can have the quarterbacks and receivers working on the type of patterns that will be used.
2. Based on some research, I've learned that St. Louis had McCoy ranked as the No. 2 quarterback in the 2010 draft, behind Sam Bradford -- their top pick. The Rams coaching staff (and that includes current Browns head coach Pat Shurmur) liked McCoy because they believed he'd be very effective in the offense. That 73 percent completion rate in his last two years at Texas along with McCoy's leadership traits made him attractive.
3. His lack of size -- optimistically listed at 6-1 -- was not a major negative. The Rams' (and now the Browns') form of the West Coast offense will have the quarterback moving around the pocket and delivering quick-strike short and medium passes -- waiting for a chance to surprise the defense with a throw downfield. Shurmur definitely was impressed with McCoy when the Rams researched and interviewed him in 2010.
4. So the West Coast offense requires an accurate, precision passer. That's why it's strange when there is an ESPN story and some suggestions from fans that the Browns grab former OSU quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft. Why? The things this offense requires are the weakest parts of Pryor's game. As for making him a receiver, that is a long-term project -- assuming it works at all.
5. The Browns also have Seneca Wallace, who has been helping McCoy and the receivers at the second Camp Colt. Yes, Wallace is athletic, but what makes him a fit in the West Coast offense is his career 60 percent completion rate. He completed 63 percent last year.
6. Accuracy is key because receivers must be connected with passes in stride. Consider that in 2009-10, Browns QBs completed only 49 percent of their passes. McCoy was at 60 percent last season.
7. Tight end Ben Watson led the Browns with 40 catches for first downs. Then came running back Peyton Hillis (25), receiver Mohamed Massaquoi (24) and slot receiver Chansi Stuckey (21). So no receiver recorded more than 24 first downs. The Rams had three receivers with at least that many: Danny Amendola (35), Brandon Gibson (33) and Daniel Fell (24). Amendola was an undrafted 5-11 receiver from Texas Tech in 2009. He caught 43 passes as a rookie, 85 last season. The Browns believe they can find someone from their current group of receivers -- Brian Robiskie, Massaquoi or rookie Greg Little -- who can surprise and thrive in the offense.
8. In St. Louis, Shurmur's offense threw 590 passes compared to 429 runs last season. In 2009, it was 543 passes to 411 runs with a collection of Marc Bulger, Kyle Boller and Keith Null at quarterback. Steven Jackson carried the ball 330 and 324 times in the last two seasons, but the Rams rarely gave the ball to anyone else.
9. By comparison, the Browns threw 478 passes compared to 413 runs in 2010. It was 443 passes, 498 rushes in 2009. So the play calling will swing more toward passing, but the Browns believe the passes will be more successful because they are shorter. But the real advantage may be the Browns matching their quarterback to the offense.
10. But the Browns believe the West Coast offense will help the running game. In Shurmur's two years calling the plays, Steven Jackson gained 1,241 and 1,416 yards for the Rams, averaging 326 carries. Because Peyton Hillis (270 carries for 1,177 yards) takes such a beating, the Browns need Montario Hardesty to stay healthy -- and it would be wise to sign a veteran running back.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2011/06/terry_plutos_talkin_about_pat.html
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jun 20, 2011 9:53am
Soooo ready for football.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 20, 2011 10:17am
A buddy is taking his son to the Browns football camp this week. First order of business this morning was a meeting with Pat Shurmur.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jun 20, 2011 10:21am
http://www.cantonrep.com/newsnow/x1425876575/Around-the-NFL-Browns-still-searching-for-top-notch-receiver
Recap of the Browns recent WR history.
Recap of the Browns recent WR history.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 20, 2011 11:50am
Haha...look at this shit (game by game predictions for the AFC North from the Bleacher Report). I'm surprised this Steeler "homer" threw ANY team a bone and had the 49ers knocking off Pittsburgh for their ONLY loss of the season. Guarantee things don't play out like this...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/739851-nfl-afc-north-schedule-and-results-for-all-17-weeks#/articles/739851-nfl-afc-north-schedule-and-results-for-all-17-weeks/page/2
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/739851-nfl-afc-north-schedule-and-results-for-all-17-weeks#/articles/739851-nfl-afc-north-schedule-and-results-for-all-17-weeks/page/2
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jun 20, 2011 12:15pm
LOL...That's a joke.