Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Aug 2, 2011 8:46pm
not to mention our new starter at safety is a career back up ( jury still out) and the signing of DB from Eagles ? i actually think he played worse than E wright last year. Hate being a downer , i just think it is going to take a whileBR1986FB;850122 wrote:Maybe Blake Costanzo and Marcus Bernard (who will likely play DE)? B-L-E-A-K !!!
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Aug 2, 2011 8:49pm
or maybe punting for them if i can beat BR or you out !Commander of Awesome;850129 wrote:Not sure, speaking of which, what are you doing on Sundays this fall?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 2, 2011 8:50pm
Mr Miyagi;850143 wrote:not to mention our new starter at safety is a career back up ( jury still out) and the signing of DB from Eagles ? i actually think he played worse than E wright last year. Hate being a downer , i just think it is going to take a while
He's building the roster from the bottom up. The top of the roster will be who he drafts. Nobody wants to hear it but it's gonna take MORE time.
This team truly hasn't "rebuilt" since it's returned. Sure, they've blown it up and restocked with free agents, trades, etc but it's NEVER been "rebuilt", through the draft, so this is something new for us.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 2, 2011 8:52pm
Mr Miyagi;850148 wrote:or maybe punting for them if i can beat BR or you out !
Won't be getting any competition from me. I'm an O-Lineman by trade. I would say I'll take that 3rd string "cushy" QB job but with this team, a 3rd stringer might get called into "active duty."
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 2, 2011 9:04pm
Mr Miyagi;850143 wrote:not to mention our new starter at safety is a career back up ( jury still out) and the signing of DB from Eagles ? i actually think he played worse than E wright last year. Hate being a downer , i just think it is going to take a while
Dimitri Patterson may have had Eric Wright syndrome last year, but he did have four INTs in nine starts...
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Aug 2, 2011 9:10pm
i agree. well said. MORE TIME.BR1986FB;850150 wrote:He's building the roster from the bottom up. The top of the roster will be who he drafts. Nobody wants to hear it but it's gonna take MORE time.
This team truly hasn't "rebuilt" since it's returned. Sure, they've blown it up and restocked with free agents, trades, etc but it's NEVER been "rebuilt", through the draft, so this is something new for us.
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Aug 2, 2011 9:12pm
Also a MLB if i remember right. Maybe if Jackson rips a pec you will get called into action, yet you will be the " old man " on the teamBR1986FB;850152 wrote:Won't be getting any competition from me. I'm an O-Lineman by trade. I would say I'll take that 3rd string "cushy" QB job but with this team, a 3rd stringer might get called into "active duty."
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 2, 2011 9:18pm
Whoa don't crush David Bowen's dreams like that. He's still hoping for the call.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 2, 2011 9:20pm
Anyone who might be listening to "X's and O's With The Pros" - LB managed to make the injury to PUNTER Reggie Hodges a racial issue. The "lack of remorse" for the PUNTER is because Cleveland fans are apparently racist. Sorry for the LB splurge, but this guy is really pissing me off and won't take my call! I even tried to lure him to the phone using my Twitter name (a name in which he hates) and the coward won't do it. No one cares, at least I don't, if our punter is lost for the season whether he's black, white, pink, purple or green.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 2, 2011 10:01pm
Mr Miyagi;850148 wrote:or maybe punting for them if i can beat BR or you out !
I actually thought about going up....I averaged 45 yards from my sophomore year in high school to when I finished playing college! You think I got a shot Miyagi?
scout team QB and punter for the Browns....hmmm?? haha
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 2, 2011 10:02pm
OhioStatePride2003;850190 wrote:Anyone who might be listening to "X's and O's With The Pros" - LB managed to make the injury to PUNTER Reggie Hodges a racial issue. The "lack of remorse" for the PUNTER is because Cleveland fans are apparently racist. Sorry for the LB splurge, but this guy is really pissing me off and won't take my call! I even tried to lure him to the phone using my Twitter name (a name in which he hates) and the coward won't do it. No one cares, at least I don't, if our punter is lost for the season whether he's black, white, pink, purple or green.
Just a question....if you hate the show so bad, why do you still listen to it? lol
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Aug 2, 2011 10:22pm
no son, you dont have a shotOQB;850242 wrote:I actually thought about going up....I averaged 45 yards from my sophomore year in high school to when I finished playing college! You think I got a shot Miyagi?
scout team QB and punter for the Browns....hmmm?? haha
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 2, 2011 10:23pm
Haha ok "O Wise One" 
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Aug 3, 2011 2:46am
I heard a good point made on the radio tonight about the Browns that has some merit as far as frustration at the sloth like approach taken to rebuilding this team.
Last year Tampa and KC were drafting in front of us.
Now they are both coming off 10 win seasons and their franchise outlook going forward looks very bright after both franchises had similarly fallen off the wayside.
Why is it in Cleveland always that the rebuild has to take a billion years when there are other franchises that can put a foundation in place and start winning games immediately?
I am trying not to get down on the front office because I think Heckert is competent, but why can't he walk and chew gum at the same time as far as both building through the draft and supplementing the talent level through smart trades & free agency the way the KC's and Tampas of the world have?
Last year Tampa and KC were drafting in front of us.
Now they are both coming off 10 win seasons and their franchise outlook going forward looks very bright after both franchises had similarly fallen off the wayside.
Why is it in Cleveland always that the rebuild has to take a billion years when there are other franchises that can put a foundation in place and start winning games immediately?
I am trying not to get down on the front office because I think Heckert is competent, but why can't he walk and chew gum at the same time as far as both building through the draft and supplementing the talent level through smart trades & free agency the way the KC's and Tampas of the world have?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2011 5:28am
OhioStatePride2003;850190 wrote:Anyone who might be listening to "X's and O's With The Pros" - LB managed to make the injury to PUNTER Reggie Hodges a racial issue. The "lack of remorse" for the PUNTER is because Cleveland fans are apparently racist. Sorry for the LB splurge, but this guy is really pissing me off and won't take my call! I even tried to lure him to the phone using my Twitter name (a name in which he hates) and the coward won't do it. No one cares, at least I don't, if our punter is lost for the season whether he's black, white, pink, purple or green.
I told you earlier, he's the male version of Jemele Hill...a blatant racist. He has to stir the pot with the "good cop, bad cop" shit...he being the "bad cop."
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2011 5:32am
IggyPride00;850455 wrote:I heard a good point made on the radio tonight about the Browns that has some merit as far as frustration at the sloth like approach taken to rebuilding this team.
Last year Tampa and KC were drafting in front of us.
Now they are both coming off 10 win seasons and their franchise outlook going forward looks very bright after both franchises had similarly fallen off the wayside.
Why is it in Cleveland always that the rebuild has to take a billion years when there are other franchises that can put a foundation in place and start winning games immediately?
I am trying not to get down on the front office because I think Heckert is competent, but why can't he walk and chew gum at the same time as far as both building through the draft and supplementing the talent level through smart trades & free agency the way the KC's and Tampas of the world have?
Both of those teams actually had a "youth" foundation to build off of....then, sprinkle in some key free agents. Until 2007, it seems like Browns drafts have been one abortion after another. Add to that the fact that free agents brought in were typically on their last legs looking for that final payday and you have a recipe for disaster/bottom feeder syndrome. This team is really in no position to be throwing money around at FA's. I've also heard that they may not be pursuing free agents because of "dead money" and Lerner's gaffes.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 3, 2011 10:14am
Iggy, KC and Tampa had very successful drafts the previous few years to develop a good talent base as BR said. Same can't be said about the Browns.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 3, 2011 11:28am
They still have some of their draft picks from 04, 05, 06 etc....we just now started drafting quality players that are still on our roster.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2011 11:32am
Sounding like Lauvao is giving Pashos all he can handle at the RT spot. It would be great if Lauvao could win that battle & Greco could play RG. He may end up at LG with the Steinbach situation.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2011 12:18pm
Vickers signs with Houston. Arian Foster shouldn't miss a beat this year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 3, 2011 2:14pm
Foster should be better.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 3, 2011 3:51pm
BR1986FB;850685 wrote:Sounding like Lauvao is giving Pashos all he can handle at the RT spot. It would be great if Lauvao could win that battle & Greco could play RG. He may end up at LG with the Steinbach situation.
A name that's generating a little buzz is Branndon Braxton. The kid is having a solid camp from what I hear (reference his play in the article below) and is pushing hard to break into the line-up, possibly at RT. I could see a starting line-up of: Thomas, Greco/Lauvao, Mack, Lauvao/Greco, Braxton.
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/08/03/wednesday-quick-hits-training-camp-edition-3/
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 3, 2011 3:52pm
BR1986FB;850720 wrote:Vickers signs with Houston. Arian Foster shouldn't miss a beat this year.
Excellent add on Houston's part. I really hope H&H are sold on Marecic, otherwise they'll regret letting Vickers go. Vickers played in the WCO while at Colorado and put up decent humbers there. We'll see I guess.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 3, 2011 4:11pm
BR1986FB;850487 wrote:I told you earlier, he's the male version of Jemele Hill...a blatant racist. He has to stir the pot with the "good cop, bad cop" ****...he being the "bad cop."
Me and a friend of mine are going to create a Blog...Dunno what it's gonna be called yet, but it's going to be a critique of the "X's and O's with the Pros" show. One blog and One Tweet to Mr. LeCharlesBent65 will generate a ton of "haters". I can't believe the amount of ignorant pukes that came to this guys defense yesterday when I said Hodges was "just a punter".
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 3, 2011 5:55pm
Rumor has it Asante Samuels wants out of philly....I would love to get him and have him and haden as our corners. i think it is very possible to get him and give him an extension to be here 3-4 years.