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BR1986FB
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Aug 3, 2011 7:05pm
OQB;851001 wrote:Rumor has it Asante Samuels wants out of philly....I would love to get him and have him and haden as our corners. i think it is very possible to get him and give him an extension to be here 3-4 years.
Browns have no interest, from what I've heard.
Heckert is holding off as long as possible because he REALLY wants to see what he has. For instance, as far as the WR position goes, he wants to look at the Mitchell's, the Norwood's, the Haggerty's, etc to see if he has "something" there. If these guys step up and he goes out and spends money on a high profile free agent, they consider it "money wasted." Mangini didn't exactly give him a good template (playing the 400 year olds vs the young blood) to evaluate from. I think we're more likely to see additions in a few weeks when a boatload of players get cut.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2011 7:06pm
OhioStatePride2003;850902 wrote:A name that's generating a little buzz is Branndon Braxton. The kid is having a solid camp from what I hear (reference his play in the article below) and is pushing hard to break into the line-up, possibly at RT. I could see a starting line-up of: Thomas, Greco/Lauvao, Mack, Lauvao/Greco, Braxton.
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/08/03/wednesday-quick-hits-training-camp-edition-3/
Very well could be the case. This group isn't afraid to throw the young guys to the wolves.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 3, 2011 7:50pm
OQB;851001 wrote:Rumor has it Asante Samuels wants out of philly....I would love to get him and have him and haden as our corners. i think it is very possible to get him and give him an extension to be here 3-4 years.
i thought their plan was to get younger?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2011 8:46pm
Pick6;851068 wrote:i thought their plan was to get younger?
Hence, no interest.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 4, 2011 12:07am
I was just reporting what I heard on All Bets Are Off today....didn't say they were going to get him. I am on board with what this front office is doing, a lot of people are questioning their plan but if you sit back and look at it....they know what they are doing and are spending the money wisely.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 4, 2011 1:16am
Greco and Braxton? Who knew the Browns would dip into Youngstown.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 4, 2011 5:23am
Abe Elam signed with Dallas and Blake Costanzo (some of that earlier LB "depth" I spoke of) signed with San Fran, I believe.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 4, 2011 5:25am
OQB;851307 wrote:I was just reporting what I heard on All Bets Are Off today....didn't say they were going to get him.
It's all good. I'm just saying if you hear rumors of "the Browns are targeting "insert name of any free agent over 27 years old or any 'name' free agent" I'd look at it with a jaundiced eye. This team is DEFINITELY targeting a youth movement. Hopefully it isn't a bowel movement.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 4, 2011 7:49am
OQB
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Aug 4, 2011 9:10am
BR1986FB;851379 wrote:It's all good. I'm just saying if you hear rumors of "the Browns are targeting "insert name of any free agent over 27 years old or any 'name' free agent" I'd look at it with a jaundiced eye. This team is DEFINITELY targeting a youth movement. Hopefully it isn't a bowel movement.
Haha +1
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 4, 2011 10:10am
Read the comment about the linebackers....BLEAK !
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/nate-ulrich-competition-to-accelerate-once-players-join-cleveland-browns-practice-1.228013
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/nate-ulrich-competition-to-accelerate-once-players-join-cleveland-browns-practice-1.228013
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Aug 4, 2011 2:24pm
BR1986FB;851483 wrote:Read the comment about the linebackers....BLEAK !
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/nate-ulrich-competition-to-accelerate-once-players-join-cleveland-browns-practice-1.228013
oh wow. hope none of our injury-prone lb's get hurt
Jester
Posts: 700
Aug 4, 2011 3:02pm
Phil Taylor finally on the field
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/30215/dt-phil-taylor-ready-to-make-impact
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/30215/dt-phil-taylor-ready-to-make-impact
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Aug 4, 2011 3:05pm
ESPN just dished out their grades of post-lockout moves. No surprise the Browns got a D which is good for the worst in the AFC. I hope Heckert has a method to his madness, because at this point him and Holmgren sitting on their hands this offseason doesn't look very good.
Meanwhile the Bengals managed to snap up Donte Whitner today two a 2 year deal. Absolutely puzzling. I have this vision of Tom Heckert sitting in his office playing solitaire while other GM's actually attempt to make moves to better their teams.
Meanwhile the Bengals managed to snap up Donte Whitner today two a 2 year deal. Absolutely puzzling. I have this vision of Tom Heckert sitting in his office playing solitaire while other GM's actually attempt to make moves to better their teams.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 4, 2011 3:46pm
Y-Town Steelhound;851725 wrote:ESPN just dished out their grades of post-lockout moves. No surprise the Browns got a D which is good for the worst in the AFC. I hope Heckert has a method to his madness, because at this point him and Holmgren sitting on their hands this offseason doesn't look very good.
Meanwhile the Bengals managed to snap up Donte Whitner today two a 2 year deal. Absolutely puzzling. I have this vision of Tom Heckert sitting in his office playing solitaire while other GM's actually attempt to make moves to better their teams.
Have faith man. Everyone wanted Whitner (myself included) but Whitner wouldn't have blended well with Ward in our secondary. It'll all come together eventually.
Apparently San Fran has emailed all the teams in the league saying that Taylor Mays is available. Wow.
And just read this... Holmgren in a radio interview in Seattle said the Browns have lost 331 years of age on their roster-Wow.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 4, 2011 3:47pm
There's a SHOCKER! /sarcasm. There were all kind of red flags out there about Mays before the draft. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Him and Brady Quinn would go well together.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Aug 4, 2011 3:49pm
We have to have faith in the Heckert and Holmgren. These guys have a plan that is different than what we expected. But they are sticking to it. If it works they will look like geniuses.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 4, 2011 3:55pm
I like the plan, I'm all for not over paying for high priced aging Vets. That being said I thought we would have landed Ray Edwards or Joseph. Seems like it wasn't in the cards. I know I was always pissed that the Browns would draft a guy, then not play him (see Harrison for example) because they would sign an aging vet to fill the role (Jamal Lewis). Thus we never progreessed our home grown talent. If we had signed an Edwards, then perhaps Shread wouldn't see the field, or Skrine wouldn't see the field if we signed Joseph. Thus never knowing what we had in the kid we drafted. How many people we pissed because we were playing DA over Quinn? Give the young guys a chance to showcase their talents.
Thoguh we def need some LBer help. Our LBer core is a joke right now.
Thoguh we def need some LBer help. Our LBer core is a joke right now.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 4, 2011 3:56pm
Commander of Awesome;851760 wrote:There's a SHOCKER! /sarcasm. There were all kind of red flags out there about Mays before the draft. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Him and Brady Quinn would go well together.
Wanna bet he winds up in Seattle? Good ol' Pete loves his former players. Who knows? Maybe eventually we'll see that '05 USC team in a Seahawks uniform, wouldn't that be somethin'?
fiction
Posts: 347
Aug 4, 2011 4:11pm
OhioStatePride2003;851772 wrote:Wanna bet he winds up in Seattle? Good ol' Pete loves his former players. Who knows? Maybe eventually we'll see that '05 USC team in a Seahawks uniform, wouldn't that be somethin'?
I'll take that bet. Some bad blood between Pete and Mays going back to the draft.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Aug 4, 2011 4:42pm
Always thought Mays was better suited for outside linebacker in the NFL given his size....wouldn't mind seeing the Browns take a chance on that very notion. Young, talented, low-risk high-reward move to a linebacking core that lacks depth and playmakers.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Aug 4, 2011 6:27pm
Y-Town Steelhound;851725 wrote:ESPN just dished out their grades of post-lockout moves. No surprise the Browns got a D which is good for the worst in the AFC. I hope Heckert has a method to his madness, because at this point him and Holmgren sitting on their hands this offseason doesn't look very good.
Meanwhile the Bengals managed to snap up Donte Whitner today two a 2 year deal. Absolutely puzzling. I have this vision of Tom Heckert sitting in his office playing solitaire while other GM's actually attempt to make moves to better their teams.
Whitner wouldn't have helped this team.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 4, 2011 7:07pm
Tom Heckert on @SiriusXMNFL: 'After first cuts, we're gonna bring a ton of guys in'. #Browns
Which means he's laying low, looking to grab the bargains.
Which means he's laying low, looking to grab the bargains.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Aug 4, 2011 7:08pm
se-alum;851870 wrote:Whitner wouldn't have helped this team.
Disagree completely, with reasons laid out previously in this thread. I don't think he was going to revolutionize the defense, but surely would've been an improvement over Mike Adams/Usama Young given his talent, background with Jauron, and familiarity with the defensive system. Alas, he's heading to the bay area now.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Aug 4, 2011 7:10pm
BR1986FB;851888 wrote:Tom Heckert on @SiriusXMNFL: 'After first cuts, we're gonna bring a ton of guys in'. #Browns
Which means he's laying low, looking to grab the bargains.
Hopefully his "TJ Maxx" approach to free agency works...