Here's the deal, imo. This is ALL about the "evaluation process."OQB;1008542 wrote:How have the Browns won 4 games this season? THey are fucking pathetic....
Maybe deydurkie, and footwedge, but that was about it. Other than those wishful predictions, most fans had the Browns best possible scenario at 8-8, but realistically in the 5-6 range.Scarlet_Buckeye;1008680 wrote:And many of us thought they would be 7-0 at the beginning of the year, perhaps even 8-0.
I had em, optimistically, at 7-9.like_that;1008690 wrote:Maybe deydurkie, and footwedge, but that was about it. Other than those wishful predictions, most fans had the Browns best possible scenario at 8-8, but realistically in the 5-6 range.
I believe i had them at 8-8 at best, but I figured they would win 6 and at least improve on last years fucking total smh. There are a lot of games (as there were last year), where you can look back and say the Browns should have won. So, 8-8 was not that far fetched, but I guess it was since it isCleveland.BR1986FB;1008697 wrote:I had em, optimistically, at 7-9.
I gotta be honest, I think they would have about 6 wins right now if Wallace were the QB. This sounds sad but I don't thing "winning" is the objective as much as the previously mentioned "evaluating." But Wallace isn't their future and you might as well leave McCoy in there and not mess up your draft slot (not my opinion but could be the thoughts of management).like_that;1008714 wrote:I believe i had them at 8-8 at best, but I figured they would win 6 and at least improve on last years fucking total smh. There are a lot of games (as there were last year), where you can look back and say the Browns should have won. So, 8-8 was not that far fetched, but I guess it was since it isCleveland.
I def agree about the evaulation year. It was pretty evident before the season started, when they decided not to sign anybody. I am not sure if this team is 2 wins better with Wallace. Let's not forget he cost the Browns a win or two last year. I think any QB was going to be screwed with Shurmurs scheme.BR1986FB;1008724 wrote:I gotta be honest, I think they would have about 6 wins right now if Wallace were the QB. This sounds sad but I don't thing "winning" is the objective as much as the previously mentioned "evaluating." But Wallace isn't their future and you might as well leave McCoy in there and not mess up your draft slot (not my opinion but could be the thoughts of management).
This is part of the reason I think they pulled Wallace after 2 plays. I bet he would've gotten them in the end zone. In the end the Browns, just like James Harrison, are likely going to be paying a fine for sending McCoy back on the field and "jeopardizing" his future. My understanding in his post game presser was that he "didn't remember the play (Harrison cheap shot)" and there were no bright lights allowed in his interview. Yet Pat sent him back out there.
there has to be. ATLEAST two games. if the nfl doesn't shame on godell.BR1986FB;1008737 wrote:Hopefully, as a repeat offender, there's a suspension to go with Harrison's fine.
I doubt it. Goodell has gone soft unfortunately. Too many crybabies, and he is finally giving them what they want. He allowed Mclain to play 3 days after he held a gun at some guys head for crying out loud. He allowed Cedric to play 6-7 games before reducing his suspension to 1 game, and I still haven't heard anything about Simpson trying to sell a boat load of weed.BR1986FB;1008737 wrote:Hopefully, as a repeat offender, there's a suspension to go with Harrison's fine.
Nepotism. Shurmur's uncle, Fritz, worked for Holmgren and Holmgren and Shurmur share the same agent. He isn't going anywhere for awhile.Automatik;1008777 wrote:Why does everyone say Shumer's job is so secure? Is he tight with Holmgren?
Which is bullshit. Mangini was a dead man walking yet Holmgren wasted a year keeping him around.Commander of Awesome;1008785 wrote:Holmgren didn't even fire erica womangini after the worst season I have ever witnessed as a browns fan. Thinks a coach needs more than one yr.
Wut? I don't "hate" Holmgren and I said Shurmur wasn't going anywhere for "awhile" meaning he likely isn't getting canned THIS year. If he has additional talent next year and lays another 4-12 egg, sure...he'll be gone. The front office can't "sell" back to back 4-12 seasons and moving forward with him.SportsAndLady;1008896 wrote:If Shurmur has another 4-12 season next year, they'll can Shurmur...don't listen to BR, he just hates Holmgren and is a tad bit blinded right now.
New head coach starts out 2 seasons in a row shitty, they'll can him.
LOL...because the opposition doesn't NEED to pass plus, prior to Schaub & Big Jen, they hadn't faced a truly legit passing QB. If the Drama Queen doesn't get his whittle ankle "boo boo" last night he probably dices the Browns secondary for about 400 yards.Pick6;1008906 wrote:And why would you want another lock down corner? The pass defense is actually somewhat legit. The run defense is ranked 31st...
So you waste a high pick on something that you THINK might be a problem and ignore something that you KNOW is a problem. Makes sense.BR1986FB;1008926 wrote:LOL...because the opposition doesn't NEED to pass plus, prior to Schaub & Big Jen, they hadn't faced a truly legit passing QB. If the Drama Queen doesn't get his whittle ankle "boo boo" last night he probably dices the Browns secondary for about 400 yards.
I really like Burfect, but a lot of mocks have him going in the 2nd. Might not be worth it to use a 1st on him.Crimson streak;1008921 wrote:Honestly if Barkley is there you take him. I would take burfect with the 2nd first rounder and then get Kendall wright from Baylor with the 2nd rounder. That fills 3 needs with 3 picks and would improve this team by a lot. Then either find o line in free agency or a proven receiver in v jack or desean or colston
like_that;1008937 wrote:I really like Burfect, but a lot of mocks have him going in the 2nd. Might not be worth it to use a 1st on him.
