karen lotz;580436 wrote:Easy schedule? Sagarin has it 22nd, whatever link was posted by an OSU fan to defend OSU's schedule yesterday had Notre Dame at #1. 11 out of 12 opponents would be bowl eligible if not for sanctions against USC and the only team that wasn't bowl eligible wasn't Eastern Michigan but a Big Ten team. It is a really sad day when someone who knows nothing about college football comes to the defense of someone like sleeper.

killer_ewok;580719 wrote:Some of the posts on here IMO implied that ND fans were "bragging" about going to a Bowl and that we're making it a bigger deal than it is. No, just pleased with how they finished out the season all things considered. And excited to go to a Bowl like the Sports Champs Bowl considering we've seen 1 Bowl win in the last decade and a half and that was the Hawaii Bowl. Whatever bowl ND goes to this year it will be a step up from that. Hey, progress is progress.

krambman;580778 wrote:Exactly. Four weeks ago there were questions about whether or not Brian Kelly would keep his job and no one gave them a chance at a bowl game with three games left. Many thought they would lose all three. But they ended winning all three of those games and finishing with seven wins. That's absolutely something to build on going into next year. And now they get an extra month of practice that they wouldn't have gotten had they missed out on a bowl game.

And I'm glad you agree with me. Unlike most on here I have the ability to be somewhat objective and I do a pretty good job of keeping a level head and admitting when proven wrong.

Skyhook79;580764 wrote:Sagarin Ratings???? He is about as accurate as John Hollinger.
Is Sagarin the same guy that has Stanford at #2 and Auburn at # 3 and he doesn't even have Auburn that close to Stanford point wise? Oh and he has 9-3 Alabama at #5.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm Brilliant formula.

ND played 3 road games out of 12 and only 2 of those 12 games were against good teams. Easy schedule.

Skyhook79;580764 wrote:Sagarin Ratings???? He is about as accurate as John Hollinger.
Is Sagarin the same guy that has Stanford at #2 and Auburn at # 3 and he doesn't even have Auburn that close to Stanford point wise? Oh and he has 9-3 Alabama at #5.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm Brilliant formula.

ND played 3 road games out of 12 and only 2 of those 12 games were against good teams. Easy schedule.

karen lotz;580810 wrote:Couple things. Notre Dame played 4 road games out of 12 and a home game at Yankee Stadium against Army. At Michigan State, At Boston College, At Navy (New Meadowlands Stadium), and At USC. Ohio State played 4 road games out of 12 and only one of those games were against a good team. What would you call that schedule if you say ND's is easy?

Use whatever SOS ranking system you want to use, I used Sagarin's because its often cited by CFB "experts" and its easy to find. If you look at the composite records that ranks teams purely by win/loss totals of opponents, Notre Dame is ranked 1st (1th). This ranking system was used by a OSU fan this weekend to defend OSU's slate against that of Boise and TCU.

krambman;580778 wrote:Exactly. Four weeks ago there were questions about whether or not Brian Kelly would keep his job and no one gave them a chance at a bowl game with three games left. Many thought they would lose all three. But they ended winning all three of those games and finishing with seven wins. That's absolutely something to build on going into next year. And now they get an extra month of practice that they wouldn't have gotten had they missed out on a bowl game.

And I'm glad you agree with me. Unlike most on here I have the ability to be somewhat objective and I do a pretty good job of keeping a level head and admitting when proven wrong.

ytownfootball;580821 wrote:For the love of all things holy, would you stop using OSU as your comparison? You bring on what you get every time you bring up OSU. My God you just won't quit. Leave OSU out of it and you wouldn't have half the BS you put up with on this board.

karen lotz;580822 wrote:good post. We'll save you a seat on the bandwagon.

krambman;580843 wrote:Trust me, if my sister didn't marry a Notre Dame fan you probably wouldn't be getting so much love from me right now because I would know far less about ND right now. Since I have a brother-in-;aw who's a Domer I hear more about ND football than I really want to.

karen lotz;580822 wrote:We'll save you a seat on the bandwagon.

ytownfootball;580821 wrote:For the love of all things holy, would you stop using OSU as your comparison? You bring on what you get every time you bring up OSU. My God you just won't quit. Leave OSU out of it and you wouldn't have half the BS you put up with on this board.

centralbucksfan;580861 wrote:Bingo, we have a winner! There is a reason some of us OSU "trolls" show up. Bring OSU into it, you bring OSU fans into it.

ytownfootball;580867 wrote:I mean, he said Ohio State three times in half a dozen sentences...certainly you can make a point with out bringing Ohio State into it. It only proves you're trying to stir the pot despite claims to the contrary.

karen lotz;580881 wrote:I'm using OSU as a comparison because OSU fans are the ones discrediting ND because of their "soft" schedule. Also, this is an Ohio forum, as its been pointed out numerous times. Why is it so horrible to mention them when most of the people on here are more familiar with OSU than any other team? Stirring the pot and disagreeing with someone is different. It went from ND's schedule being weak, to me using a couple widely cited ranking systems to show that it wasn't weak, to some OSU fans saying the ranking systems aren't accurate, to other OSU fans saying when ranking systems should be used, to Notre Dame's season being discredited.

karen lotz;580849 wrote:All that does is show you actually know something about Notre Dame unlike a few on here and are still able to be objective.

karen lotz;580903 wrote:Ok, why use other teams to compare? This is an Ohio board dominated in numbers by OSU fans. It makes sense to try to see how different situations would look to OSU fans if they are looked at from an OSU fan's perspective. For instance, if a team loses its best player/quarterback, which would be easier for most fans on here to understand the impact on that team: Pryor getting hurt or Nick Foles/Jake Locker/Kellen Moore?

karen lotz;580699 wrote:100% correct about???

Skyhook79;580381 wrote:Its a sad day for College Football when Notre Dame fans are calling people out because they won 7 games when given their easy schedule they should have won 10 games minimum.

dlazz;580957 wrote:did you even read what I quoted in my original post?

dlazz;580987 wrote: Notre Dame's schedule was trash.