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Oct 22, 2011 5:09 PM
Not much of an answer to my question. If you run the same play over and over the defense has a pretty easy time of it. We ran the sweep so many times there fans were calling it out. They need to throw short passes, what happend to the screen pass.
Oct 22, 2011 5:09pm
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Oct 22, 2011 5:41 PM
When this one is over the McCreary's will be jumping up and down on the "O" at midfield celebrating...
Oct 22, 2011 5:41pm
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Oct 22, 2011 5:51 PM
He won't last long
Oct 22, 2011 5:51pm
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Oct 22, 2011 6:01 PM
CCRolly;941601 wrote:When this one is over the McCreary's will be jumping up and down on the "O" at midfield celebrating...
You forgot the "sarcasm" graphic! :D
Oct 22, 2011 6:01pm
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Oct 22, 2011 6:40 PM
CCRolly;941601 wrote:When this one is over the McCreary's will be jumping up and down on the "O" at midfield celebrating...

So he is getting fired on the sidelines right after the final gun sounds? Perfect!!!!!
Oct 22, 2011 6:40pm
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Oct 22, 2011 6:59 PM
THE4RINGZ;941632 wrote:So he is getting fired on the sidelines right after the final gun sounds? Perfect!!!!!
You say you want to load, aim, and fire the cannon in the endzone :thumbup:
Oct 22, 2011 6:59pm
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Oct 22, 2011 9:05 PM
Red Rider81;941589 wrote:Not much of an answer to my question. If you run the same play over and over the defense has a pretty easy time of it. We ran the sweep so many times there fans were calling it out. They need to throw short passes, what happend to the screen pass.
Agreed. He avoided your question. You are right Red Rider 81. I heard their fans calling out what we were about to do and thats bad. We have got to stop being predictable. Didnt we throw a screen pass to Stew Turner last week for a touchdown? I saw none of that last night. Really makes you wonder!
Oct 22, 2011 9:05pm
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Oct 23, 2011 12:43 AM
Simple football, 2 options, run or pass, it starts with the line, you have to begin to execute the plays from there and if the execution or blocking starts right then the plays can develop and go well if it doesn't the plays don't enfold. Just look at the pros, redright 88 and Metcalf up the middle and they got paid to execute plays, but it all starts with the line and blocking or plays don't work no matter what you think should be called. Watch the trenches and see what is happening there.
Oct 23, 2011 12:43am
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Oct 23, 2011 1:23 AM
Wow, what a weekend for the green teams, Smithville with the upset Friday night and Michigan State with the "HAIL MARY" reviewed TD on the last play to beat Wisconsin.
Oct 23, 2011 1:23am
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Oct 23, 2011 8:44 AM
Stu was maybe 70% for the game Friday. Watch the replays and you will see how gingerly he is moving around. Best thing about this week is the extra day!!!!! This will do wonders for Dru and Stu's injuries. Gotta get healthy. I guess a good way of looking at things is we still have not found our offensive rhythm and yet we sit #2 in the region. let's keep hoping we get it solved
Oct 23, 2011 8:44am
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Oct 23, 2011 8:50 AM
Brenner at QB
Sommers to fullback or tight end or both
Lemmon needs to play offense more
Weaver needs more touches
Stu needs WAY more touches

Short passes, some play action, some mis-direction runs, use the tight end, wildcat, and an actual offensive coordinator!

SOLVED!
Oct 23, 2011 8:50am
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Oct 23, 2011 9:52 AM
5 turnovers will kill any offense it doesn't matter who or what plays are called , it is still execution and Brenner at QB is not solving the offensive "problem", it starts on the line and goes on from there. But 5 turnovers takes away alot of offensive plays and possiblly 35 points. So all players must execute the play and DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER and your offense will look alot better. Just like on defense if all 11 don't execute their assignments you give up yards and points, like an open man in the endzone or stupid personal fouls to keep drives going. SO DO NOT TURN THE BALL OVER!!!!!
Oct 23, 2011 9:52am
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Oct 23, 2011 9:55 AM
Old Rider;942116 wrote:Brenner at QB
Sommers to fullback or tight end or both
Lemmon needs to play offense more
Weaver needs more touches
Stu needs WAY more touches

Short passes, some play action, some mis-direction runs, use the tight end, wildcat, and an actual offensive coordinator!

SOLVED!
You are 100% right about all!
Oct 23, 2011 9:55am
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Oct 23, 2011 2:35 PM
Red Rider Nation;942169 wrote:You are 100% right about all!
I agree those moves would solve many of the problems on offense, I really like the sommers to fullback move that would be great. He is a very tough runner. Isn't fullback his natural position ? If so why isn't he playing there now.
Oct 23, 2011 2:35pm
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Oct 23, 2011 2:41 PM
Red Rider Nation;941758 wrote:Agreed. He avoided your question. You are right Red Rider 81. I heard their fans calling out what we were about to do and thats bad. We have got to stop being predictable. Didnt we throw a screen pass to Stew Turner last week for a touchdown? I saw none of that last night. Really makes you wonder!
Thanks Red Rider Nation, I thought it was a logical question. Nice to see someone else is able to see the same things i do.
Oct 23, 2011 2:41pm
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Oct 23, 2011 4:04 PM
I see a team that is 6-3 ( not a losing record )and secured a home playoff game in week 9 and you want to change everything around at this point :laugh:
Oct 23, 2011 4:04pm
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Oct 23, 2011 4:17 PM
riders1;942635 wrote:I see a team that is 6-3 ( not a losing record )and secured a home playoff game in week 9 and you want to change everything around at this point :laugh:

Really? Change everything? No just our offense. Stop being absent minded! With this offense we cannot continue to win games. Remember in 2 weeks we will be playing much better competition!
Oct 23, 2011 4:17pm
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Oct 23, 2011 4:47 PM
Ohio Division 4, Region 13
2011 Unofficial Rankings
Latest update: 10/23/2011 4:25:06 PM EDT
Important notes about the "playoff status" feature
Scores: Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6 Week 7 Week 8 Week 9
View the official OHSAA rankings (after week 4) by clicking here.
Rank W-L ID # City School Average Level 1 Level 2 L2 divisor Playoff Status
(unofficial) 		max Avg
(win out) 		min Avg
(win out) 		max Avg
(lose out) 		min Avg
(lose out) 		L2 divisor
(final)
1 8-1 644 Girard Girard 20.6556 36.5 166.0 100 clinched home game 23.7000 21.2000 23.2500 20.7500 100
2 6-3 1210 Orrville Orrville 17.4833 30.0 141.5 100 clinched playoff spot 22.4500 20.2000 19.8500 17.6000 100
3 8-1 1174 Creston Norwayne 16.2278 34.0 124.5 100 clinched playoff spot 22.4000 20.6000 18.4000 16.6000 100
4 7-2 226 Sullivan Black River 15.2056 32.0 116.5 100 clinched playoff spot 17.9500 15.7500 17.5000 15.3000 100
5 8-1 256 Brookfield Brookfield 13.9444 35.5 98.0 98 control own destiny 17.6214 15.0194 16.6112 14.0092 98
6 8-1 340 Canton Canton Central Catholic 13.3039 38.0 89.0 98 control own destiny 19.3020 15.6796 16.5041 12.8816 98
7 6-3 936 Akron Manchester 11.8167 28.5 86.5 100 control own destiny 17.2000 16.1500 13.4500 12.4000 100
8 5-4 818 Leavittsburg LaBrae 11.7944 22.0 93.5 100 . 14.9500 13.5000 13.4000 11.9500 100
9 6-3 384 Cleveland Cleveland Central Catholic 11.2677 25.5 83.5 99 . 15.9793 14.8682 12.8530 11.7419 99
10 5-4 828 Cortland Lakeview 9.5170 25.5 65.5 98 . 13.1031 10.7320 11.6737 9.3026 97
11 5-4 1496 Streetsboro Streetsboro 9.4278 25.0 66.5 100 . 12.5500 11.2000 11.0000 9.6500 100
12 6-3 170 Beachwood Beachwood 8.7273 24.0 60.0 99 . 14.8692 12.2934 11.0364 8.4606
Oct 23, 2011 4:47pm
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Oct 23, 2011 4:48 PM
Red Rider Nation;942671 wrote:Really? Change everything? No just our offense. Stop being absent minded! With this offense we cannot continue to win games. Remember in 2 weeks we will be playing much better competition!
I agree that SOME things need changed....I do however disagree with this post, because we have continued to win games with this offense...how we are able to is because of our defense bottom line.


If this team and I know they do, want to make a run in the playoffs they will have to EXECUTE and that is simply what it is coming down to execution on offense. I trust our coaches to call the right plays and put our players in the right spot to succeed, now the players have to execute.
Oct 23, 2011 4:48pm
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Oct 23, 2011 5:42 PM
Brenner at qb? I had to look twice to see if that post came after the game Friday night. Maybe in a wildcat on occasion but you have to be out of your mind if you think its a permanent solution. Passing with him is not an option.
Oct 23, 2011 5:42pm
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Oct 23, 2011 5:52 PM
And you know this because you have been at practice and evaluated him?????? If so, you must have been hiding in the woods???? Drew is a very good option to have and the extra day of rest could not have come at a better time for him.
Oct 23, 2011 5:52pm
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Oct 23, 2011 6:40 PM
I don't think we need to attend practice to see what everyone can do....I know I base my opinions on what I see on the field every Friday night....same with just about everyone on here except for a few. You can be an All-American practice player but if it doesn't transfer over to games on Friday nights then who cares what happens in practice? Just my opinion of course.
Oct 23, 2011 6:40pm
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Oct 23, 2011 6:47 PM
OQB;942813 wrote:I don't think we need to attend practice to see what everyone can do....I know I base my opinions on what I see on the field every Friday night....same with just about everyone on here except for a few. You can be an All-American practice player but if it doesn't transfer over to games on Friday nights then who cares what happens in practice? Just my opinion of course.
Well said!
Oct 23, 2011 6:47pm
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Oct 23, 2011 7:37 PM
OQB;942813 wrote:I don't think we need to attend practice to see what everyone can do....I know I base my opinions on what I see on the field every Friday night....same with just about everyone on here except for a few. You can be an All-American practice player but if it doesn't transfer over to games on Friday nights then who cares what happens in practice? Just my opinion of course.
Talk to him OQB!
Oct 23, 2011 7:37pm