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Nov 21, 2010 2:41 PM
Al Bundy;569443 wrote:So if a school can find a job for a parent it is ok to bring in their son?

Diebold is now a branch of WHS?
Nov 21, 2010 2:41pm
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Nov 21, 2010 2:57 PM
fish82;569431 wrote:Ed has been a .500 team the past 3 seasons, and a complete non-factor in the title chase for nearly a decade. Stupid and whiny isn't a good combination. You should probably work on that.

Well, let's see how stupid I am....the 3 years you speak of, 07-09, St. Ed lost 16 games....so there goes my argument, correct? Wait, lets take a closer look at exactly WHO they lost those 16 games to.

07
Strongsville
Euclid
ST. XAVIER
MOELLER
ST. IGNATIUS

08
ELDER
ST. XAVIER
MOELLER
ST. IGNATIUS
ST. IGNATIUS (playoff game)

09
Mentor
Inkster
ELDER
ST. XAVIER
MOELLER
ST. IGNATIUS

Twelve (12) of those 16 losses are to Parcchials themselves.

Over that same time span, they are 8-4 vs publics.

Pretty sad when a "non factor" goes 8-4 vs publics huh?

Who looks stupid now?
Nov 21, 2010 2:57pm
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Nov 21, 2010 3:17 PM
skank;569406 wrote:That's the best you got?

The best I got for what? You asked. I answered.
Nov 21, 2010 3:17pm
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Nov 21, 2010 4:09 PM
A closer look will reveal, that in the 'parochial playground', known better as the OHSAA, over the last three years, (fish seems to want to concentrate on the last three years), Parochials have an overall record of 77-20 vs Ohio publics in DI. Without Glenville, Colerain and Mentor, those numbers would be even uglier.
Nov 21, 2010 4:09pm
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Nov 21, 2010 4:39 PM
skank;569478 wrote:Well, let's see how stupid I am....the 3 years you speak of, 07-09, St. Ed lost 16 games....so there goes my argument, correct? Wait, lets take a closer look at exactly WHO they lost those 16 games to.

07
Strongsville
Euclid
ST. XAVIER
MOELLER
ST. IGNATIUS

08
ELDER
ST. XAVIER
MOELLER
ST. IGNATIUS
ST. IGNATIUS (playoff game)

09
Mentor
Inkster
ELDER
ST. XAVIER
MOELLER
ST. IGNATIUS

Twelve (12) of those 16 losses are to Parcchials themselves.

Over that same time span, they are 8-4 vs publics.

Pretty sad when a "non factor" goes 8-4 vs publics huh?

Who looks stupid now?
mmmmmm....pretty much still you. Sorry, Skippy.
Nov 21, 2010 4:39pm
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Nov 21, 2010 4:39 PM
skank;569692 wrote:A closer look will reveal, that in the 'parochial playground', known better as the OHSAA, over the last three years, (fish seems to want to concentrate on the last three years), Parochials have an overall record of 77-20 vs Ohio publics in DI. Without Glenville, Colerain and Mentor, those numbers would be even uglier.

Over that same period of time Glenville, Colerain, and Mentor are 61-7 against Ohio public schools. Their record against Ohio publics is more impressive than the private schools that you picked. Maybe some teams just have good programs.
Nov 21, 2010 4:39pm
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Nov 21, 2010 5:55 PM
I've never been a supporter of separating the publcis and privates until now. I saw Ursuline play this year, and believe me, they should not be in Div. V. It doesn't bother me that Ursuline beat my boys from Big Red, because Big Red plays mostly Div. I schools and we are used to playing above our heads. But the blowout against Kirtland was disgusting. Nobody can compete against a team that recruits that many Div. I college players. And even though Mooney had a down year, they still fall into the same category. There is clearly something wrong, and it is time for it to be fixed.
Nov 21, 2010 5:55pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:26 PM
skank;569692 wrote:A closer look will reveal, that in the 'parochial playground', known better as the OHSAA, over the last three years, (fish seems to want to concentrate on the last three years), Parochials have an overall record of 77-20 vs Ohio publics in DI. Without Glenville, Colerain and Mentor, those numbers would be even uglier.
I'm not concentrating on anything. You were the 'tard that suggested that Ed should be penalized for having one dominant season in the past 8.
Al Bundy;569736 wrote:Over that same period of time Glenville, Colerain, and Mentor are 61-7 against Ohio public schools. Their record against Ohio publics is more impressive than the private schools that you picked. Maybe some teams just have good programs.

Aaaaaaannnnd.....skank gets the pinata treatment.....again. I hope you don't bruise easily, buddy. ;)
Nov 21, 2010 6:26pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:42 PM
fish82;569870 wrote:I'm not concentrating on anything. You were the 'tard that suggested that Ed should be penalized for having one dominant season in the past 8.



Aaaaaaannnnd.....skank gets the pinata treatment.....again. I hope you don't bruise easily, buddy. ;)

They were undefeated in 2005, till week 14, when Massillon knocked them out. 5 years ago. Just sayin. :D
Nov 21, 2010 6:42pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:42 PM
fish82;569735 wrote:mmmmmm....pretty much still you. Sorry, Skippy.

Care to look again? With words like stupid and tard, I believe I just may be getting my point across, see....That's when the name calling usually begins. And to think it's coming from a class of people who like to fancy themselves....Better? Sure makes one wonder.
Nov 21, 2010 6:42pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:44 PM
Al Bundy;569736 wrote:Over that same period of time Glenville, Colerain, and Mentor are 61-7 against Ohio public schools. Their record against Ohio publics is more impressive than the private schools that you picked. Maybe some teams just have good programs.

Thank you for helping to prove my point, again, over that same period of time, those three have a sub .500 record vs the same parochs you champion.
Nov 21, 2010 6:44pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:49 PM
fish82;569870 wrote:I'm not concentrating on anything. You were the 'tard that suggested that Ed should be penalized for having one dominant season in the past 8.



Aaaaaaannnnd.....skank gets the pinata treatment.....again. I hope you don't bruise easily, buddy. ;)


As far as Ed having "one dominate season", please relook at the numbers I produced....And also, the last time I checked, the rules were pretty much even across the board, which brings me to the St. Edward Wrestling and Basketball programs.

And I would have to have taken a shot to bruise, I'm still waiting on the shot.
Nov 21, 2010 6:49pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:52 PM
skank;569897 wrote:As far as Ed having "one dominate season", please relook at the numbers I produced....And also, the last time I checked, the rules were pretty much even across the board, which brings me to the St. Edward Wrestling and Basketball programs.

And I would have to have taken a shot to bruise, I'm still waiting on the shot.

Or in this case, lack of rules.
Nov 21, 2010 6:52pm
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Nov 21, 2010 6:52 PM
Gardens35;569898 wrote:What do you think is the best rap song ever?

The parochial shuffle.
Nov 21, 2010 6:52pm
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Nov 21, 2010 7:31 PM
skank;569892 wrote:Thank you for helping to prove my point, again, over that same period of time, those three have a sub .500 record vs the same parochs you champion.

Your false assumtion in all of this is that all schools should have an even record and if you take the privates schools out, everyone is equal. How do you explain the 61-7 record of Glenville, Colerain, and Mentor against other public schools if everything is suppose to be equal? How do you explain Massillon's all-time winning record against almost everyone if things are supposed to be equal? Your entire premise is that everyone should have the same number of wins. Your theory is disproven even if we remove the private schools.
Nov 21, 2010 7:31pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:04 PM
GoChiefs;569318 wrote:Wait, it's OK for Big Red to have kids come to school outside of their district, but it's not OK for a private school to do the same thing?

I think its ok for kids to go wherever their parents want ..
Tell me why the private schools dominate per capita every year .............See I believe some of these schools absolutely recruit specifically for football and they can do it with the blanket of being a private school,because they all indeed need to recruit students in general to survive as a school......See what I mean....... They can do this similarily as a college recruits future football players...Are you saying that public schools do this..........Certainly not on the same scale ,and if done it is considered unethical and possibly illegal.....
Nov 21, 2010 8:04pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:11 PM
coyotes22;569887 wrote:They were undefeated in 2005, till week 14, when Massillon knocked them out. 5 years ago. Just sayin. :D
Super. I suggest sanctions asap then.
Nov 21, 2010 8:11pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:19 PM
fish82;570026 wrote:Super. I suggest sanctions asap then.

Call OHSAA. :D
Nov 21, 2010 8:19pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:21 PM
^^^why call? Probably 99.9 % of the board are Catholics.
Nov 21, 2010 8:21pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:26 PM
coyotes22;570047 wrote:Call OHSAA. :D
Not me, man. I'd actually like to see 'em finally kick the door down and win one. ;)
Nov 21, 2010 8:26pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:31 PM
skank;569889 wrote:Care to look again? With words like stupid and tard, I believe I just may be getting my point across, see....That's when the name calling usually begins. And to think it's coming from a class of people who like to fancy themselves....Better? Sure makes one wonder.
I'm actually a public school puke just like you. I just come from the "beat the best to be the best" camp, as opposed to the "stomp my feet and cry because my team can't beat 'em" camp. But I must admit, you've certainly got me thumped when it comes to throwing up irrelevant strawmen and circular arguments.
Nov 21, 2010 8:31pm
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Nov 22, 2010 12:06 AM
Thinthickbigred;570012 wrote:I think its ok for kids to go wherever their parents want ..
Tell me why the private schools dominate per capita every year .............See I believe some of these schools absolutely recruit specifically for football and they can do it with the blanket of being a private school,because they all indeed need to recruit students in general to survive as a school......See what I mean....... They can do this similarily as a college recruits future football players...Are you saying that public schools do this..........Certainly not on the same scale ,and if done it is considered unethical and possibly illegal.....

Why is it ok for Big Red to have kids from West Virginia and even Cadiz Ohio and many towns in between transfer to their school to play football but when a kid wants to go to a catholic school and recieve a catholic education while playing football you claim it is illegal and the school is recruiting?Catholic schools do not need to recruit students to survive as a school, If they are offering a good education parents will sent their child there and many catholic families send their kids to catholic schools because that is how they were raised.The bottom line is education and not always football.
Nov 22, 2010 12:06am
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Nov 22, 2010 12:07 AM
Who cares? It will not change anytime soon!
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Nov 22, 2010 5:33 AM
password;570413 wrote:Why is it ok for Big Red to have kids from West Virginia and even Cadiz Ohio and many towns in between transfer to their school to play football but when a kid wants to go to a catholic school and recieve a catholic education while playing football you claim it is illegal and the school is recruiting?Catholic schools do not need to recruit students to survive as a school, If they are offering a good education parents will sent their child there and many catholic families send their kids to catholic schools because that is how they were raised.The bottom line is education and not always football.

Ask the father of those kids not me....I said it is ok to go to whatever school your parents want.....education is not about football but my issue is about football .....
Nov 22, 2010 5:33am