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Nov 11, 2010 2:37 PM
gorocks99;553876 wrote:If you want your daughter to remain nostalgic about her childhood, by your definition, shouldn't you be limiting the number of videos/photos/etc that you have of her?

In theory, yes. It's not logical or feasible in practice though, IMO.
Nov 11, 2010 2:37pm
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Nov 11, 2010 2:39 PM
Con_Alma;553878 wrote:I see. That's much different than what I thought you meant by nostalgia.

I can understand how the "items" may become less important because of their pure volume. Wouldn't that place a higher meaning on those things that triggered emotions of the past like scents, locations, music and the like?


Yes, they could be.

I've actually thought about music as it relates to nostalgia too. One sec - got feed the six month old. To be continued.
Nov 11, 2010 2:39pm
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Nov 11, 2010 2:47 PM
Steel Valley Football;553920 wrote:In theory, yes. It's not logical or feasible in practice though, IMO.

Why don't you think it's feasible? Based on what you have shared it sounds like it might just be the logical thing to do if the purpose of pictures is to capture the past for posterity's sake.

I don't know that I've taken any more pictures of my kids than my parents did of me...at least I don't have saved any more.

I will admit that other people take LOTS of pictures of my kids while participating at sporting and school events. They are very willing to then share them with us even though we don't ask them to. It's a nice gesture of their's but holy smokes I don't need three to four pictures of the same football play or wrestling match that lay out every sequential development of my child actions.

That's not what I think will be remembered. I think it will be the overall experience and the relationships that we formed not that fact that my son cut the corner with is head up while executing a double leg take-down.
Nov 11, 2010 2:47pm
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Nov 11, 2010 2:51 PM
Con_Alma;553933 wrote:Why don't you think it's feasible? Based on what you have shared it sounds like it might just be the logical thing to do if the purpose of pictures is to capture the past for posterity's sake.

I don't know that I've taken any more pictures of my kids than my parents did of me...at least I don't have saved any more.

I will admit that other people take LOTS of pictures of my kids while participating at sporting and school events. They are then very willing to then share them with us even though we don't ask them to. It's a nice gesture of theirs but holy smokes I don't need three to four pictures of the same football play or wrestling match that lay out every sequential development of my child.

That's not what I think will be remmebered. I think it will be the overall experience and the relationships that we formed.

We have many, many, many, many pictures of our daughters, many in the same outfit, same pose, same day, etc. I don't see the need to delete them... yet. Just gives us more options from which to choose, when we decide to print.
Nov 11, 2010 2:51pm
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Nov 11, 2010 2:59 PM
I don't think nostalgia is dead. Even today, many movies/shows that come out are updates of things that were popular when I was a kid (A-Team, Transformers, Knight Rider, etc.). How many sports teams do "throwback days" now and break out the old jerseys? It seems to me that people are still trying to recapture the thoughts/feelings of childhood--with the advent of certain technologies, we're just changing the way we recapture those memories (so now we click through our pictures rather than listen to Grandma tell stories).
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Nov 11, 2010 3:04 PM
ernest_t_bass;553936 wrote:We have many, many, many, many pictures of our daughters, many in the same outfit, same pose, same day, etc. I don't see the need to delete them... yet. Just gives us more options from which to choose, when we decide to print.

I don't think that's any type of opposition to what I posted.

I am guessing you wanted those choices of photos because you chose to photograph them as opposed to us being given them unsolicited.
Nov 11, 2010 3:04pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:17 PM
Steel Valley Football;553922 wrote:Yes, they could be.

I've actually thought about music as it relates to nostalgia too. One sec - got feed the six month old. To be continued.


I think the nostalgic side to music has been lost as well because of the internet...just because I can hear any song I want at any moment at any place on my smart phone. That is just for me personally. I wouldn't trade the music access I have now for how it used to be (i.e waiting on a DJ to play my favorite new song or hearing a song at the skating rink that I only heard there once a week).
Nov 11, 2010 3:17pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:19 PM
Steel Valley Football;553969 wrote:...(i.e waiting on a DJ to play my favorite new song or hearing a song at the skating rink that I only heard there once a week).


That's very nostalgic!! :)
Nov 11, 2010 3:19pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:21 PM
I Wear Pants;553892 wrote:I'm not calling you stupid but I think that idea is a little bit. My pictures and cherished items from my childhood are such because they captured moments that I remember fondly. Not because there are few of them.

And I don't have to worry about the house fire scenario because I have everything scanned and backed up to several remote locations.

Good thing you're not calling me stupid...LOL.

Your answer will generally be relative to your situation. A person with no photos at all from their childhood, or only one photo, will likely give a totally different answer. I'd expect you can follow that logic.
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Nov 11, 2010 3:26 PM
Con_Alma;553933 wrote:Why don't you think it's feasible? Based on what you have shared it sounds like it might just be the logical thing to do if the purpose of pictures is to capture the past for posterity's sake.

I don't know that I've taken any more pictures of my kids than my parents did of me...at least I don't have saved any more.

I will admit that other people take LOTS of pictures of my kids while participating at sporting and school events. They are very willing to then share them with us even though we don't ask them to. It's a nice gesture of their's but holy smokes I don't need three to four pictures of the same football play or wrestling match that lay out every sequential development of my child actions.

That's not what I think will be remembered. I think it will be the overall experience and the relationships that we formed not that fact that my son cut the corner with is head up while executing a double leg take-down.
I just mean that I'm not going to try to fight it for the sake of trying to CREATE nostalgia for her (and him). I'll let things happen naturally. That's not the purpose of pictures IMO. It just so happened they have that effect on me and serve that purpose for me; naturally and not contrived by anyone.
Nov 11, 2010 3:26pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:27 PM
Con_Alma;553948 wrote:I don't think that's any type of opposition to what I posted.

I am guessing you wanted those choices of photos because you chose to photograph them as opposed to us being given them unsolicited.

I see what you are saying, but I wasn't really trying to post in opposition. Just explaining why I have many pictures of the same event, etc.
Nov 11, 2010 3:27pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:27 PM
fan_from_texas;553946 wrote:I don't think nostalgia is dead. Even today, many movies/shows that come out are updates of things that were popular when I was a kid (A-Team, Transformers, Knight Rider, etc.). How many sports teams do "throwback days" now and break out the old jerseys? It seems to me that people are still trying to recapture the thoughts/feelings of childhood--with the advent of certain technologies, we're just changing the way we recapture those memories (so now we click through our pictures rather than listen to Grandma tell stories).
Good points - did you read the whole thread though?
Nov 11, 2010 3:27pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:38 PM
Yeah, I understand ernest. I didn't think you were. I was merely emphasising that even with great reason like you had to hold many pictures it doesn't minimize my thought that it's not only feasible to not have any more picture than generation past but that we in fact don't in our home.

It's strange because my in-laws were shocked we didn't have video camera. I told I never thought we needed one. She, of course purchased one for us for Christmas two years ago. I think I turned it on once.

Because we had one didn't change our need or desire to use one.
Nov 11, 2010 3:38pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:46 PM
Steel Valley Football;553981 wrote:I just mean that I'm not going to try to fight it for the sake of trying to CREATE nostalgia for her (and him). I'll let things happen naturally. That's not the purpose of pictures IMO. It just so happened they have that effect on me and serve that purpose for me; naturally and not contrived by anyone.


I tend to agree with you that creating items for nostalgic's sake or avoiding them in an attempt to magnify potential nostalgia won't be the impact of those serendipitous stimulants; ie., music, scents, sounds, scenery, etc.

I'm probably not the best person to provide examples because it sounds as if I don't follow the movements that inspired your concerns.

I don't have 10,000 pictures or 200 movies of my kids. I don't want to forgo the experience of being there and enjoying it in an attempt to preserve it in some manner.

No picture or recording will ever do justice in my mind to that of being present when the event or activity takes place. By putting a mental focus on making sure I capture the moment with technology I take aware from the potential experience of simply being present in the moment.
Nov 11, 2010 3:46pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:48 PM
Great Thread. Justin should archive this one.
Nov 11, 2010 3:48pm
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Nov 11, 2010 3:49 PM
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Nov 11, 2010 5:15 PM
berry;554006 wrote:Great Thread. Justin should archive this one.


My next thread will be about nostalgic pictures of your mom. :D
Nov 11, 2010 5:15pm
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Nov 13, 2010 11:14 AM
Con_Alma;554004 wrote:I tend to agree with you that creating items for nostalgic's sake or avoiding them in an attempt to magnify potential nostalgia won't be the impact of those serendipitous stimulants; ie., music, scents, sounds, scenery, etc.

I'm probably not the best person to provide examples because it sounds as if I don't follow the movements that inspired your concerns.

I don't have 10,000 pictures or 200 movies of my kids. I don't want to forgo the experience of being there and enjoying it in an attempt to preserve it in some manner.

No picture or recording will ever do justice in my mind to that of being present when the event or activity takes place. By putting a mental focus on making sure I capture the moment with technology I take aware from the potential experience of simply being present in the moment.

I think that's a silly notion. I'm not calling you stupid, mind you. LOL.

Maybe 25 years ago when it meant lugging around a giant video camera, but today it's no trouble at all with an iPhone to press record and easily capture any event or moment. It used to be that you had to hold a camera up to your face and look thru the viewfinder and that certainly was annoying and could definitely make you miss things. Not now, though.

I agree nothing can match being there, but, in my opinion, nothing can match being there along with capturing the moment to look back at many years from now.

In any event, I understand it's a personal preference. Though, many people, me included, have family that gets these videos on their phones or computers almost as they are happening and so it's a way for them to keep up with their grandchildren, for example. You simply don't have that need and that's fine, though I contend it might be a somewhat selfish notion. You get to enjoy the moment, but what about a young person in the video that won't remember the moment; or like I said someone who can't be present for the moment.
Nov 13, 2010 11:14am
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Nov 13, 2010 1:37 PM
I think its one of those things you acquire an affinity for over time. Most people don't start to notice until its already passed them by
Nov 13, 2010 1:37pm
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Nov 13, 2010 2:27 PM
Steel Valley Football;556152 wrote:...

Maybe 25 years ago when it meant lugging around a giant video camera, but today it's no trouble at all with an iPhone to press record and easily capture any event or moment....
You are assuming I have a mobile phone. I got rid of it years ago and it was very freeing.
Nov 13, 2010 2:27pm
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Nov 15, 2010 12:52 PM
Con_Alma;556327 wrote:You are assuming I have a mobile phone. I got rid of it years ago and it was very freeing.


Not having a mobile phone because it's "freeing" is an even sillier notion than not taking home movies because you need to devote all your concentration on fully enjoying the moment. It might also be just as selfish as it is silly, like the latter.
Nov 15, 2010 12:52pm
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Nov 15, 2010 12:55 PM
Selfish? It might be but then again I don't have some obligation to others to be accessible.

I didn't get rid of the phone because it was freeing. It being a freeing event was simply a side result.
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Nov 15, 2010 1:00 PM
Con_Alma;559267 wrote:Selfish? It might be but then again I don't have some obligation to others to be accessible.

I didn't get rid of the phone because it was freeing. It being a freeing event was simply a side result.

There are phone-sized video cameras available for pretty cheap that have no phone service available on them. What now?
Nov 15, 2010 1:00pm
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Nov 15, 2010 1:06 PM
Steel Valley Football;559274 wrote:... What now?
Wow, that came across as aggressive. Was that your intent?

If you had read the thread you would know I have a camera. It's plenty small. How is the size of the camera a factor in the above stated explanations I have shared?
Con_Alma wrote:...It's strange because my in-laws were shocked we didn't have video camera. I told I never thought we needed one. She, of course purchased one for us for Christmas two years ago. I think I turned it on once.

Because we had one didn't change our need or desire to use one.
Nov 15, 2010 1:06pm
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Nov 15, 2010 2:09 PM
Con_Alma;559282 wrote:Wow, that came across as aggressive. Was that your intent?

If you had read the thread you would know I have a camera. It's plenty small. How is the size of the camera a factor in the above stated explanations I have shared?

LOL how is that aggressive? You must be hanging out with vergina man ManhattanBuckeye again.


However, once again, the discussion turns into how you don't follow the norms of society because you are special and unique and how you follow your own thinking that the rest of us couldn't possibly understand.

Both of your ideas - not having a cell phone and not using your video camera because you want to concentrate on not missing the live moment - are silly and selfish.
Nov 15, 2010 2:09pm