Is Pryor just Steve Bellisari on Steroids?

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Oct 20, 2010 11:32 PM
Pick6;526866 wrote:ever heard of Vince Young? Mike Vick?

Seriously?
Oct 20, 2010 11:32pm
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Oct 20, 2010 11:36 PM
Pick6;526892 wrote:yea he sucks, but he has a better winning % than a majority of the QBs in the NFL

Cool story bro. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Vince Young is a terrible quarterback in the league. He's on a good team. When you are getting benched for Kerry "Grandpappy" Kollins, you ain't that good.
Oct 20, 2010 11:36pm
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Oct 20, 2010 11:42 PM
He's made the Pro Bowl, he has to be better than some QBs. Its funny the only thing you have to argue is something that happened 3 years ago.
Oct 20, 2010 11:42pm
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Oct 20, 2010 11:50 PM
Pick6;526917 wrote:He's made the Pro Bowl, he has to be better than some QBs. Its funny the only thing you have to argue is something that happened 3 years ago.


VY made the Pro Bowl after about 11 QB's backed out due to injury. Either way, you are comparing Pryor to 2 Pro Bowl QBs, he isn't a top 5 QB in the Big Ten.
Oct 20, 2010 11:50pm
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Oct 21, 2010 12:03 AM
karen lotz;526927 wrote:VY made the Pro Bowl after about 11 QB's backed out due to injury. Either way, you are comparing Pryor to 2 Pro Bowl QBs, he isn't a top 5 QB in the Big Ten.

hahaaha not a top 5 qb in the big 10 but considered a heisman contender? OK
Oct 21, 2010 12:03am
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Oct 21, 2010 12:08 AM
Pick6;526943 wrote:hahaaha not a top 5 qb in the big 10 but considered a heisman contender? OK

Who considers him a Heisman contender besides Buckeye fans??


http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman/
Oct 21, 2010 12:08am
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Oct 21, 2010 12:10 AM
Again, he was exposed as a quarterback against Wisconsin. He is a freakish athlete, but that doesn't mean he is a good quarterback.
Oct 21, 2010 12:10am
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Oct 21, 2010 12:26 AM
thedynasty1998;525846 wrote: Let's look at Pryour against his four legit games this year:
Miami: 12-27, 233 yds, 1 TD
Illinois: 9-16, 76 yds, 2 TD, 1 Int
Indiana: 24-30, 334 yards, 3 TD
Wisconsin: 14-28, 156 yards, 1 Int

So, in those 4 games he is 59-101, 58%; 199 ypg; 7 TD, 2 Int

You don't think Bellisari improved his completion % in non conference games? You're sari.
Oct 21, 2010 12:26am
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Oct 21, 2010 12:38 AM
karen lotz;526966 wrote:Again, he was exposed as a quarterback against Wisconsin. He is a freakish athlete, but that doesn't mean he is a good quarterback.

how was he exposed? multiple dropped passed by Posey? He threw one int at the end, and it didnt even matter because for some out of earth reason tressel punts the ball to a team that was running over us all night down 10 with 6 minutes to go.

Ohio State' defense was exposed.
Oct 21, 2010 12:38am
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Oct 21, 2010 12:42 AM
The reason Tressel punted was because he knew Pryor had zero chance of picking up the 4th down. He saw the 3 straight passes hit the ground.
Oct 21, 2010 12:42am
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Oct 21, 2010 2:09 AM
karen lotz;526927 wrote:VY made the Pro Bowl after about 11 QB's backed out due to injury. Either way, you are comparing Pryor to 2 Pro Bowl QBs, he isn't a top 5 QB in the Big Ten.

Could you rank the top 5 big ten QBs?
Oct 21, 2010 2:09am
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Oct 21, 2010 2:12 AM
dat dude;527054 wrote:Could you rank the top 5 big ten QBs?


I was exaggerating. Just saying he is not anywhere near and shouldn't ever be compared to 2 NFL Pro Bowl quarterbacks.
Oct 21, 2010 2:12am
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Oct 21, 2010 8:21 AM
karen lotz;527026 wrote:The reason Tressel punted was because he knew Pryor had zero chance of picking up the 4th down. He saw the 3 straight passes hit the ground.

Continue to show your ignorance. No coach in his right mind, is going to go for it on 4th and 10 with 6 min to go in a game, in your own territory. Ridiculously stupid comment above.
Oct 21, 2010 8:21am
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Oct 21, 2010 8:31 AM
I love the Bucks but right now the 3 best "True QBs" in the Big 10 are Chappel - IN, Cousins - MSU and Stanzi - IA. And last Sat night I would have preferred to have any of those 3 in the game on the last drive. Is TP the best QB on the roster? - without a doubt, but I have come to the conclusion he is not a QB that is going to bring you back from being in a hole.
Oct 21, 2010 8:31am
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Oct 21, 2010 9:16 AM
Pryor is not Vick or Young. Both of those guys can throw the ball, and have that "it" factor that I haven't seen from Pryor yet.

As for his game against Wisconsin and reading defenses, he was exposed. Wisconsin took away his first read all day and he really looked uncomfortable in the pocket. And they did a great job of keeping him in the pocket as well, which again, he's not comfortable with. Usually he throws to his first read if it's open, and if not he's scrambling. Wisconsin took that away and he wasn't able to scan the field and make an accurate throw to his 2nd and 3rd reads.

And his stats would have been even less impressive if it weren't for the great plays by Sanzenbacher.
Oct 21, 2010 9:16am
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Oct 21, 2010 2:02 PM
centralbucksfan;527106 wrote:Continue to show your ignorance. No coach in his right mind, is going to go for it on 4th and 10 with 6 min to go in a game, in your own territory. Ridiculously stupid comment above.


Down two scores against a team that has shown all game they can pound the ball right at his own defense? Ok. Many OSU fans have said on here that it was a clear sign of Tressel waving the white flag. Its not a surprise at all that you can't understand that.
Oct 21, 2010 2:02pm
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Oct 21, 2010 2:03 PM
thedynasty1998;527138 wrote:Pryor is not Vick or Young. Both of those guys can throw the ball, and have that "it" factor that I haven't seen from Pryor yet.

As for his game against Wisconsin and reading defenses, he was exposed. Wisconsin took away his first read all day and he really looked uncomfortable in the pocket. And they did a great job of keeping him in the pocket as well, which again, he's not comfortable with. Usually he throws to his first read if it's open, and if not he's scrambling. Wisconsin took that away and he wasn't able to scan the field and make an accurate throw to his 2nd and 3rd reads.

And his stats would have been even less impressive if it weren't for the great plays by Sanzenbacher.
This. cbf, read this post and learn how to be not ignorant about OSU.
Oct 21, 2010 2:03pm
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Oct 21, 2010 2:15 PM
Bruce Hooley (whom I can't stand) was saying on the radio that against ranked teams, Pryor completes 55% of his passes for around 155 ypg.
Oct 21, 2010 2:15pm
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Oct 21, 2010 2:23 PM
good posts, Dynasty--maybe others will follow your lead and strive to make their point without using sarcasm ad nauseam...maybe
Oct 21, 2010 2:23pm
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Oct 21, 2010 2:36 PM
vball10set;527505 wrote:good posts, Dynasty--maybe others will follow your lead and strive to make their point without using sarcasm ad nauseam...maybe

I feel this is a personal attack...
Oct 21, 2010 2:36pm
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Oct 21, 2010 2:48 PM
^^^not this time, lotz--but I'll let you know ;)

edit: I guess I could see how you'd come to that conclusion, but seriously, you weren't the target--this time
Oct 21, 2010 2:48pm
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Oct 21, 2010 2:59 PM
As for his stats against ranked opponents, I don't really know if I would consider those good or average stats. Those stats factor in his freshman year and he will likely face a couple more ranked opponents this year, so he has room to either improve upon those or to establish himself as being exactly that.
Oct 21, 2010 2:59pm
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Oct 21, 2010 4:36 PM
He is putting up Juice Williams numbers
Oct 21, 2010 4:36pm
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Oct 22, 2010 9:19 AM
vball10set;527534 wrote:^^^not this time, lotz--but I'll let you know ;)

edit: I guess I could see how you'd come to that conclusion, but seriously, you weren't the target--this time

Even if it was, man up and quit crying.
Oct 22, 2010 9:19am
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Oct 22, 2010 1:57 PM
In TP's defense, those aren't the greatest group of receivers he has to work with, I like Sanzenbacher, but watch Posey in big games, he doesn't even run a cut sometimes, just stops and stands. And Washington, come on why is this guy getting any playing time. Corey Brown needs more game experience and he'll be fine, Saine's effort seems to come and go too. It's not just Terrelle who isn't getting it done, I don't see much big play potential out there with him (running or passing)
Oct 22, 2010 1:57pm