Is Pryor just Steve Bellisari on Steroids?

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Oct 17, 2010 6:11 AM
OrrvilleQB;522562 wrote:I still can't believe the Rams drafted him in round 6! wasted pick!

They drafted him as a safety, which was his true position
Oct 17, 2010 6:11am
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Oct 17, 2010 8:56 AM
Did Pryor play defense and special teams? IMO, Pryor had nothing to do with the loss last nite. He played ok. How many drops did Posey have? Defense? Did the Dline even show up? Pryor got OSU back in the game on his own. The game was lost in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Wisky steam rolled the defense. And when your line can't get you 3 yards while inside the 5yr line(poor play calling), there isn't much you can put on the QB.
Oct 17, 2010 8:56am
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Oct 17, 2010 9:28 AM
Ohio States offensive line played their best game, IMO. The actually opened up holes for Herron and Pryor had ALOT of time to pass most times.

The thing that was telling to me was that it seemed like Wisconsin took away Pryor's first read, as you would see Pryor ready to pass and then hold back because his primary option was covered. It was then that he had to think and he just didn't seem comfortable and was not very accurate. But this game wasn't lose because of Pryor.

You have to put more blame on the defensive line than anyone. They were exposed as a finesse line that just got overpowered.
Oct 17, 2010 9:28am
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Oct 17, 2010 9:37 AM
thedynasty1998;522648 wrote:Ohio States offensive line played their best game, IMO. The actually opened up holes for Herron and Pryor had ALOT of time to pass most times.

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I hope your kidding? They gave up 3 sacks and multiple pressures. There was at least 3/4 times that our Online litterally wiffed on the dline. The Oline was not that great last nite. 1st and goal from inside the 5 and they can't get a TD? The play calling was poor...but with the experience this line has, they should have drive it in the endzone. Pryor wasn't great by any means. But I don't think he was as bad as some are making him out to be. How many drops did or short arms did Posey have? There weren't many positives at all about this game.
Oct 17, 2010 9:37am
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Oct 17, 2010 9:46 AM
centralbucksfan;522650 wrote:I hope your kidding? They gave up 3 sacks and multiple pressures. There was at least 3/4 times that our Online litterally wiffed on the dline. The Oline was not that great last nite. 1st and goal from inside the 5 and they can't get a TD? The play calling was poor...but with the experience this line has, they should have drive it in the endzone. Pryor wasn't great by any means. But I don't think he was as bad as some are making him out to be. How many drops did or short arms did Posey have? There weren't many positives at all about this game.

I'm not kidding. How many times did Pryor stand in the pocket for 5, 6, 7 seconds and throw it into the ground? I'm not saying the offensive line was at fault, but they really opened up holes up front for Boom and Pryor held the ball too long on multiple occasions because Wisconsin did a good job of taking away his first read.
Oct 17, 2010 9:46am
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Oct 17, 2010 10:46 AM
Pryor will never be an NFL quarterback. While he has improved leaps and bounds from last season to this season, he still is an average QB when it comes to throwing the ball. The guy is a freak when he's running with it, but as for a pure QB he just doesn't have "it."
Oct 17, 2010 10:46am
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Oct 17, 2010 12:00 PM
^^^we know we'll have him another year, which will give Tressel the option to redshirt Braxton Miller, who I can't wait to see in Scarlet and Gray
Oct 17, 2010 12:00pm
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Oct 17, 2010 2:38 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;522721 wrote:Pryor will never be an NFL quarterback. While he has improved leaps and bounds from last season to this season, he still is an average QB when it comes to throwing the ball. The guy is a freak when he's running with it, but as for a pure QB he just doesn't have "it."

No he doesn't, but being a pro prospect isn't a prerequisite to being a good college QB. Pryor has improved from last year, but with that said I always wonder what the hell people see when they talk about Pryor as an NFL QB. I just don't see it, ever. That's not a knock on Pryor because I think he's a very good college QB, but his mechanics, accuracy and decision making just don't translate to the NFL.

It will be interesting, however, to see if he can adapt to a WR at the next level, because no one can question his pure athletic ability.
Oct 17, 2010 2:38pm
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Oct 17, 2010 6:18 PM
I really can't see Pryor as a receiver. He has big long strides and really doesn't cut. He'd be ok on a streak or post and that's about it.
Oct 17, 2010 6:18pm
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Oct 17, 2010 7:59 PM
WebFire;523269 wrote:I really can't see Pryor as a receiver. He has big long strides and really doesn't cut. He'd be ok on a streak or post and that's about it.

Randy Moss made a nice career of it. And no, I'm not comparing Pryor to Moss by any means. But when you are that big and can run that fast, sometimes there is a place for you.
Oct 17, 2010 7:59pm
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Oct 17, 2010 8:13 PM
There is certainly a roster spot in NFL for TP and I'd say first 3 rounds too.
Oct 17, 2010 8:13pm
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Oct 17, 2010 10:23 PM
The defense lost this game. Pryor played well enough to win. But the D line got steamrolled for most of the game. That and the opening kickoff.
Oct 17, 2010 10:23pm
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Oct 17, 2010 10:50 PM
To anklebreaker, centralbucksfan, and others:

I DID NOT SAY LOSING TO WISCONSIN WAS PRYORS FAULT.

All I am comparing HIS CAREER to is a Bellisari 2.0.

You guys can mock me, but if you look at Bellisari's stats and compare what if he had been as Fast as Pryor, how similar the two may have been.

You can say how great of a thrower Pryor is and his uncanny ability to read coverages and pick apart defenses.

Also, Pryor's game against Oregon. (Yes, Jake Ballard won the game of 500 that Pryor played on the throw to give us the huge first down. Pryor will forever be thankful to Ballard for that catch)

I'm not trying to hate on him. He didn't lose the Wisconsin game.. by his standards, his second half was really good for throwing (except for the last 2 drives)
Oct 17, 2010 10:50pm
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Oct 17, 2010 10:52 PM
I think the most frustrating thing is our O-line game, particularly the running game. When you watch Wisconsin's line open up gigantic holes time and time again, you wonder when the last time you've seen that happen at Ohio State. We probably have better talent, but we can't seem to open any holes up, and we don't have a back like Beanie who is just a monster that can deal with having nowhere to go.
Oct 17, 2010 10:52pm
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Oct 17, 2010 11:12 PM
I do not know a whole lot about playing on an offensive line... But I continue to hear analysts such as Herbie and Karsatos expressing their concerns with OSU blocking schemes. They feel we try zone blocking too much and when we play teams with talent up front on the D-line/linebackers, they tend to break up the timing of plays by being able to sneak through gaps, etc. Anyone have insight? This seems to happen especially against the SEC teams, and the top teams in the Big 10.

We usually have talent on the line and these guys want us to simply line up and knock people off the ball.
Oct 17, 2010 11:12pm
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Oct 18, 2010 12:38 AM
Terrelle Pryor=Juice Williams 2.0
Oct 18, 2010 12:38am
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Oct 18, 2010 1:06 AM
It takes three phases of football to win a game, Offense, Defense, and Special Teams. The special teams this year have been god awful, how many touchdowns have we given up 4?

Marshall blocked FG return for touchdown
Miami Punt and Kickoff returns for Touchdowns
Wisconsin kickoff return for touchdown

It's not just one special teams, it's all of them!
Oct 18, 2010 1:06am
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Oct 18, 2010 7:25 AM
thedynasty1998;523371 wrote:Randy Moss made a nice career of it. And no, I'm not comparing Pryor to Moss by any means. But when you are that big and can run that fast, sometimes there is a place for you.

That's the name that usually comes up first, but I think in comparison, TP doesn't seem to possess the skills to run sharp, cutoff type routes. Hard to say since we haven't seen him try, but when he runs he seems big and lumbering to me.
Oct 18, 2010 7:25am
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Oct 19, 2010 2:33 PM
The bottom line is we are saddled with this enigma for another 1.5 seasons. Sure he's improved since his debut but in reality he's the 4th maybe 5th best QB in THE BIG 10 let alone the nation. Straight ahead track speed he's got plenty of but can't seem to make simple cuts that will get him past the LBs. Strong arm as far as being able to throw for pure distance, but accurate he ain't. WRs frequently have to make acrobatic catches to save him. An athletic specimen size & speed wise but I don't see more than 4 - 6 journeyman yrs in the NFL.
Oct 19, 2010 2:33pm
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Oct 19, 2010 2:46 PM
wes_mantooth;522220 wrote:this is a stupid thread....

this.
Oct 19, 2010 2:46pm
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Oct 19, 2010 3:02 PM
WebFire;523821 wrote:That's the name that usually comes up first, but I think in comparison, TP doesn't seem to possess the skills to run sharp, cutoff type routes. Hard to say since we haven't seen him try, but when he runs he seems big and lumbering to me.

Same here. I watch Cam Newton run the ball and it is completely different than the way Pryor runs.
Oct 19, 2010 3:02pm
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Oct 19, 2010 7:31 PM
WebFire;523821 wrote:That's the name that usually comes up first, but I think in comparison, TP doesn't seem to possess the skills to run sharp, cutoff type routes. Hard to say since we haven't seen him try, but when he runs he seems big and lumbering to me.
I actually see him as more of an Antonio Gates type of player in the NFL. I could easily see him being moved to tight end, especially if he gets with a team that will put about 20-30 more pounds on him. 6'6 and 250-260 with his speed would be a tough matchup speed-wise for a LB, and a tough matchup size-wise for a safety.
Oct 19, 2010 7:31pm
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Oct 19, 2010 7:32 PM
Classyposter58;523778 wrote:Terrelle Pryor=Juice Williams 2.0

Except Pryor actually won his Rose bowl...or hell any bowl game for that matter.
Oct 19, 2010 7:32pm
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Oct 19, 2010 7:35 PM
sleeper;523710 wrote:I think the most frustrating thing is our O-line game, particularly the running game. When you watch Wisconsin's line open up gigantic holes time and time again, you wonder when the last time you've seen that happen at Ohio State. We probably have better talent, but we can't seem to open any holes up, and we don't have a back like Beanie who is just a monster that can deal with having nowhere to go.

This. The last great OSU offensive line played in the 1997 Rose Bowl. However, more concerning than the offensive line was the DEFENSIVE line. Did they even bother to get off the bus?? Heyward, Simon, Williams...didn't hear their names all night long!
Oct 19, 2010 7:35pm
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Oct 19, 2010 7:58 PM
The line play on both sides is terrible, although the D-line is nowhere near the mess the O-line is.
Oct 19, 2010 7:58pm