no one's THAT good at recruiting.

Azubuike24;450572 wrote:Definitely. Of course, like most, not a lick of it confirmed. I mean what's next, a video of John Calipari cutting Davis' father the check? Add to that, even if rumors of his father asking for money, would that be an isolated incident in this sport? Heck no. I even saw where this story made the ESPN Bottom Line ticker for a few hours. Again, just a "rumor", one of thousands that float around the sports world every day...yet it ends up on there?

I wonder if there would even be a story here if reports that Davis and Kentucky were in-contact recently and that he had reportedly chosen them as his favorite? If he had chosen DePaul, there might be some local interest, but I doubt it would make national headlines. Add to that, there isn't anything at all that connects Kentucky to any money, even if a recruit's camp is asking for it, why do people assume UK must be involved?

This is basically another story of someone from another school, possibly Ohio State or Syracuse, two schools who recruited Davis very hard or someone from a rival school with connections to the area looking to nail Calipari based on another rumor. I can't imagine what stories we might have if every time this happened in the recruiting process, a national media outlet jumped on it and decided to write a cover story on it.

Good for the Davis family though. The support for them throughout this has been amazing, and it's only going to grow, both locally and nationally.

Azubuike24;450745 wrote:You're right, and all I'm saying is you have to wonder how much of that smoke starts BECAUSE it's Calipari.

It's pretty evident that everyone wants to nail him. That includes the media, his rivals and in-general, a lot of folks who simply don't like the way he does business.

So yes, I have to believe that a lot of the "rumors" that come up about Calipari could definitely be the result of people trying to make an issue about something small or something that would go unreported in most other circumstances.

That's why I always say that if Cal gets caught, I'll admit I was wrong and won't defend him, but until then, I'd say a majority of the stuff regarding him is simply a result of a this notion that almost everyone believes he has escaped punishment for past actions and is now thriving when he doesn't deserve to be.

Azubuike24;450745 wrote:You're right, and all I'm saying is you have to wonder how much of that smoke starts BECAUSE it's Calipari.

It's pretty evident that everyone wants to nail him. That includes the media, his rivals and in-general, a lot of folks who simply don't like the way he does business.

So yes, I have to believe that a lot of the "rumors" that come up about Calipari could definitely be the result of people trying to make an issue about something small or something that would go unreported in most other circumstances.

That's why I always say that if Cal gets caught, I'll admit I was wrong and won't defend him, but until then, I'd say a majority of the stuff regarding him is simply a result of a this notion that almost everyone believes he has escaped punishment for past actions and is now thriving when he doesn't deserve to be.

purple_rein;450832 wrote:What are your thoughts on Cal's tenures with UMass and Memphis, and what happened right after he left both places?

centralbucksfan;450924 wrote:Relatively speaking...he has really been caught twice, and associates himself with some very shadey characters. He has put himself in this situation...and deserves to be looked at under a microscope.
As a UK fan, you HAD to know this was coming.

RiverRat13;451180 wrote:It will be interesting to see if the Davis family follows through with their threat to sue the Sun-Times. My guess is they won't. Disclosure can be a bitch.

Calipari is stacking three unbelievable classes in a row. If he doesn't win a title by 2012, he would have to be considered one of the biggest chokers in coaching history. If a lockout happens, that '12 team will be especially stacked. Like the most talent since UNLV in the 90's stacked.

thedynasty1998;452850 wrote:Calipari got caught by who? From everything the NCAA has said, Calipari hasn't done anything wrong.

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centralbucksfan;453393 wrote: "The committee also determined that even without the questions about his SAT score, he would have lost his eligibility in December 2007 due to his brother being allowed to travel with the team for free"

thedynasty1998;453659 wrote:Where did you get that quote from? Not discrediting you, just curious as to where you read about the findings.

centralbucksfan;453994 wrote:Why don't you take the time to read the NCAA report. Its a little more revealing then just what you read in the newspapers:

"As set forth in Bylaw 16.11.2.1, relatives of student-athletes (in this instance, the brother of student-athlete 1) may not receive extra benefits. Therefore, the brother's receipt of cost-free transportation to and from out-of-town contests, as well as the occasional free lodging at the men's basketball team's hotel in conjunction with these trips rendered student-athlete 1 ineligible from the point they were first received, December 14, 2007. In addition, the institution admitted that its failure to charge properly the brother for the aforementioned travel and hotel expenses constitutes a failure to monitor."

Got to this link, then click on the full report.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2009-08-20-memphis-ncaa-penalties_N.htm

thedynasty1998;454023 wrote:Just looked at it, and I'm sorry, but allowing a brother to travel with the team hardly seems like something too horrible. Sure he should have known better, but let's not pretend that minor violations like that don't occur everywhere. The SAT was the main issue, this was very minor.

centralbucksfan;454040 wrote:lol nothing is serious to you when it comes to your buddy Cal. Bottom line is... Its a rule, and its one that can cause a player to be ineligible. Meaning iIts a MAJOR violoation, period. Meaning someone, ANYONE would/should know...including the head coach of the program. Was there any thought that when you get on a team plane, and you see a family member on the plane...to ask "are we sure this is ok to do per NCAA"? lol Common sense kick in? Seriously, letting a family memeber travel with the team? I think its comical it went on, I think its comical they let that happen. Its turning a blind eye big, plain and simple. Common sense should have been used. To me, it just shows how loosey goosey Cal was/is with the program.

thedynasty1998;454061 wrote:Let's not even begin to pretend that this incident alone would lead a player to be declared ineligible. I don't know what secondary violations OSU had last year, but I'm sure there were some of similar magnitude.

Does Calipari run a loose program? Absolutely. I actually know of someone who flew on the team chartered flights at Memphis regularly. But don't let your dislike of Calipari that this something bigger than what it is.