fan_from_texas;443609 wrote:If you want the truth of the matter, it's probably best to focus on the best proponents of it, not the worst.

fan_from_texas;443602 wrote:Whether the Browns win the Super Bowl doesn't affect your eternity. Many religious people believe that their actions here will affect them for all eternity. That seems to be something slightly more important and worth making a priority.

I don't mind if people attempt to proselytize me. It just shows that they care. If I come across a good restaurant, or a good product, I tell my friends about it because I care about them and want what is best for them. I want them to taste the great pizza or try the new product because I want good things for people I love. Similarly, if a friend recommends a restaurant, I don't get upset, even if I don't think it's a good restaurant. They're just looking out for me.

If people are willing to do that over a restaurant, how much more should they do it over something affecting eternity? I mean, if a person truly believes that they have the secret to eternal bliss, while others who don't believe the same way will be in eternal damnation, then it's abhorrent for them NOT to attempt to change minds. My feelings aren't hurt if someone demonstrates that they truly care about me and want to help me move in what they perceive as the right direction.

like_that;443151 wrote:Is Religion Bull****?

Nate;443627 wrote:Do you have proof that it will affect your eternity though?

• The Coherence of Theism
• The Existence of God
• Faith and Reason
• Is There a God?

Nate;443641 wrote:Like I said, I do believe there is a greater being of some sorts. What I don't believe is the stories and myths around religion. Noah's Ark, etc... What is to say that the book is just as true as "Green Eggs and Ham"?

FatHobbit;443593 wrote:I usually find your arguments pretty good and reasonably open minded (way more open minded than most people who argue for or against religion) but I think that's a false statement.

jmog;443564 wrote:Sad thing is, for those scientists that do not believe in a higher power, that is now one of their "viable theories" for the origins of life, since nearly all of them now agree that the first cell couldn't come from "primordial soup" of amino acids". However, a higher power is not considered a "viable theory" by them.

FatHobbit;443593 wrote:I usually find your arguments pretty good and reasonably open minded (way more open minded than most people who argue for or against religion) but I think that's a false statement.

fan_from_texas;443653 wrote:There are a lot of different approaches to reading the Bible. Many Christians are strict Biblical literalists. Others aren't. There is room to disagree. I'm not a strong apologist either way, but I tend to read each book differently--Jonah is likely allegorical, while Mark is written as literature, and Kings/Samuel are more historical. If something isn't written with the intent to be 100% historically accurate, can it be "false"? I mean, if someone says that there was no boy who cried wolf, and the story isn't true and can't be proven right--you'd be taken aback--it's a parable that illustrates a point, not something that is intended to be factually accurate. Similarly, I'm of the opinion that some portions of the Bible aren't primarily written to relay history as much as they're divinely inspired to reveal certain ideas. How can something that isn't intended to be factual be "disproven" as false? The details only exist to drive the meaning, not the other way around.

Bigred1995;443660 wrote:What a surprise, jmog misleading yet again! I'm sure when Fab1b said "aliens", he was thinking on the lines of little green/gray men, but for you to state that for scientists, "that is now one of their 'viable theories' for the origins of life", you're purposely being misleading. What scientist suggest is that the building block for life may have originated from outer space and made it to Earth via asteroids or comets. This theory is know as panspermia or more specifically ballistic panspermia.

jmog;443750 wrote:Its typically easy to pick out the people who are most ignorant on the subject as a whole, they are typically the ones that get more belligerent to the opposing view.

These people exist on both sides of the coin. However, in this thread they are overflowing on the "Religion is BS" side.

tcarrier32;443693 wrote:religion is bullshit, theres hardly any need to argue that. faith however, is not so much bullshit as it is depressing.

nothing like talking to your self every night to reassure those fears of yours.

jmog;443564 wrote:Sad thing is, for those scientists that do not believe in a higher power, that is now one of their "viable theories" for the origins of life, since nearly all of them now agree that the first cell couldn't come from "primordial soup" of amino acids". However, a higher power is not considered a "viable theory" by them.

jmog;443743 wrote:What a surprise, Bigred chiming in and inserting assumptions into my post that I did not say.

I am sorry I didn't go into great detail on how alien life is believed to have "seeded" the first cell here on Earth, but either way the belief is still alien life seeding Earth's life.

If that's false please correct me, otherwise go back and crawl in your hole

tcarrier32;443795 wrote:play nice society. i just felt like saying something different from the last few times this topic has popped up on this and the politics forum.

i do think religion is bullshit. but thats just my opinion. care to share yours?

Steel Valley Football;443808 wrote:There is Sumarian text (which pre-dates the Bible by tens of thousands of years) that states humans were created by aliens who needed workers to mine minerals from the earth because their planet had run out of them.

Created by aliens by mixing our genes with apes - who can argue against that??? Not anybody here, that's for sure.

Bigred1995;443820 wrote:I'm not you're wrong, but I've never heard of this before; care to site a source?

Con_Alma;443894 wrote:No, religion is not bull ****. It definitely exists in many forms.