posted by justincredibleNot fake, but it's been floating around for a while.
I could easily be convinced that was a Babylon Bee holiday party.
Not sure what my favorite part is: either calling everyone comrade, or the spirit fingers because clapping/applause triggers people.
posted by kizer permanenteI’ve said this for years now, but it seems like everyone is just looking for a reason to be outraged now lol. That video confirms it for me.
That's the essential formula behind nearly every political talking head. Kind of like sports - only hot takes on why the team sucks or why they're a contender. No one cares about how it's simply a mediocre team.
I blame social media. 20 years ago they didn't know any like-minded idiots, and the rest of us never heard anything from any of them. These days, they shit tweet 30 times a day, and their 5 idiot friends retweet it all 50 times each. All psychopaths with a deep physiological need to irritate other people.
If you could get rid of most of social media, the country would feel a lot less divided. Definitely be a lot less antifa and BLM riots over justified shootings.
posted by gutI had to turn on CNN just to see how they were dealing with it. I could only tolerate about 10 minutes. They spent most of the time fantasizing about how Mcauliffe could still win. Mostly avoided the big issues voters said why they were voting Republican.
And to top it off, had a black woman on their panel who was saying "it's this growing anxiety white people have about change". Bullshit, they're simply tired of everything being made about race.
If only they could have been tired of everything being about race for last 150 years lol what changed ? I really don’t want an answer that just struck my funny. Black people have not wanted to make everything about race for many many years. lol glad you don’t have to experience actual racism that would be hilarious
posted by gutI had to turn on CNN just to see how they were dealing with it. I could only tolerate about 10 minutes. They spent most of the time fantasizing about how Mcauliffe could still win. Mostly avoided the big issues voters said why they were voting Republican.
And to top it off, had a black woman on their panel who was saying "it's this growing anxiety white people have about change". Bullshit, they're simply tired of everything being made about race.
You should have really watched MSNBC it was so bad it was comical
posted by geeblockIf only they could have been tired of everything being about race for last 150 years lol what changed ? I really don’t want an answer that just struck my funny. Black people have not wanted to make everything about race for many many years. lol glad you don’t have to experience actual racism that would be hilarious
He is referring to the liberals and the MSM, not blacks people in general.
Hope that helps.
posted by geeblocklol glad you don’t have to experience actual racism that would be hilarious
What makes you think I haven't experienced racism? Because I'm white? Another pretty bigoted take from you.
posted by gutWhat makes you think I haven't experienced racism? Because I'm white? Another pretty bigoted take from you.
lol dude.. Do we live in the same world? How could a white dude experience racism? When have white dudes ever been the minority? When have white dudes ever been marginalized? Where exactly do you live that this is the case for you? I've been a lot of places in this world and literally nowhere has this been the case. And I mean literally. No one is treating white dudes like shit in this world man lol
posted by kizer permanentelol dude.. Do we live in the same world? How could a white dude experience racism? When have white dudes ever been the minority? When have white dudes ever been marginalized? Where exactly do you live that this is the case for you? I've been a lot of places in this world and literally nowhere has this been the case. And I mean literally.
Herein lies the problem...
Assume everyone has a cross to bear. If it's not the color of their skin, perhaps it is a genetic health disorder - maybe a person's in a wheelchair because they were born with cerebral palsy. Maybe someone is beaten by their spouse at home. Perhaps a person is unfortunate to have been born extremely ugly and loses opportunity constantly because of that. What is someone if a New England Yankee living in a backwater town in Mississippi where no one trusts him/her. What if it's an issue that a person has been the victim of identity theft, had all of their money stolen and lost a job and house as a result. On and on it goes.
The point is there is no end to this list. Race happens to be one of the items on it. You can't control what people think in their mind. If a white person hates black people, that's what's in his heart. Saying it is wrong is irrelevant. Same way with a black person that hates Asians, etc. Most reasonable people do not have the time or inclination to focus on this. They will meet someone and get to know them and then form an opinion based upon their individual experience. Kids do this all the time.
What holds back progress forward is to constantly focus every topic from a racial perspective - who got elected, what is taught in school, what's shown on TV, etc. Instead of allowing us to go about our business - to love or hate as we will - we are forced to talk and think incessently about the race of the people around us.
posted by kizer permanentelol dude.. Do we live in the same world? How could a white dude experience racism? When have white dudes ever been the minority? When have white dudes ever been marginalized? Where exactly do you live that this is the case for you? I've been a lot of places in this world and literally nowhere has this been the case. And I mean literally. No one is treating white dudes like shit in this world man lol
You apparently haven’t been to enough places.
posted by like_thatYou apparently haven’t been to enough places.
Ok fair enough where have you been that’s made existing tough because you’re a white man?
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieHerein lies the problem...
Assume everyone has a cross to bear. If it's not the color of their skin, perhaps it is a genetic health disorder - maybe a person's in a wheelchair because they were born with cerebral palsy. Maybe someone is beaten by their spouse at home. Perhaps a person is unfortunate to have been born extremely ugly and loses opportunity constantly because of that. What is someone if a New England Yankee living in a backwater town in Mississippi where no one trusts him/her. What if it's an issue that a person has been the victim of identity theft, had all of their money stolen and lost a job and house as a result. On and on it goes.
The point is there is no end to this list. Race happens to be one of the items on it. You can't control what people think in their mind. If a white person hates black people, that's what's in his heart. Saying it is wrong is irrelevant. Same way with a black person that hates Asians, etc. Most reasonable people do not have the time or inclination to focus on this. They will meet someone and get to know them and then form an opinion based upon their individual experience. Kids do this all the time.
What holds back progress forward is to constantly focus every topic from a racial perspective - who got elected, what is taught in school, what's shown on TV, etc. Instead of allowing us to go about our business - to love or hate as we will - we are forced to talk and think incessently about the race of the people around us.
You’re missing the point homie… it has nothing to do with peoples struggles. Of course everyone has their own struggles. Of course poor white people have it hard too. It’s why Trump won. Bc poor white people are tired of hearing how they have it better than black people. Bc it doesn’t feel like they do. But it has nothing to do with how well off you are or your personal struggles. There’s no denying that across almost the entire world, not just the US, people with black skin are perceived inferior to people with lighter skin. When you look at business and industry, the statistical rates are undeniable. No one likes to admit they have a head start in life. That’s why people fight tooth and nail to deny it.
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogieno one is saying everyone is born with a silver spoon or that everyone hasnt overcome obstacles..but what they are saying is that one of the obstacles is not the color of your skin if you are white. its not that hard to understand.Herein lies the problem...
Assume everyone has a cross to bear. If it's not the color of their skin, perhaps it is a genetic health disorder - maybe a person's in a wheelchair because they were born with cerebral palsy. Maybe someone is beaten by their spouse at home. Perhaps a person is unfortunate to have been born extremely ugly and loses opportunity constantly because of that. What is someone if a New England Yankee living in a backwater town in Mississippi where no one trusts him/her. What if it's an issue that a person has been the victim of identity theft, had all of their money stolen and lost a job and house as a result. On and on it goes.
The point is there is no end to this list. Race happens to be one of the items on it. You can't control what people think in their mind. If a white person hates black people, that's what's in his heart. Saying it is wrong is irrelevant. Same way with a black person that hates Asians, etc. Most reasonable people do not have the time or inclination to focus on this. They will meet someone and get to know them and then form an opinion based upon their individual experience. Kids do this all the time.
What holds back progress forward is to constantly focus every topic from a racial perspective - who got elected, what is taught in school, what's shown on TV, etc. Instead of allowing us to go about our business - to love or hate as we will - we are forced to talk and think incessently about the race of the people around us.
posted by kizer permanenteYou’re missing the point homie… it has nothing to do with peoples struggles. Of course everyone has their own struggles. Of course poor white people have it hard too. It’s why Trump won. Bc poor white people are tired of hearing how they have it better than black people. Bc it doesn’t feel like they do. But it has nothing to do with how well off you are or your personal struggles. There’s no denying that across almost the entire world, not just the US, people with black skin are perceived inferior to people with lighter skin. When you look at business and industry, the statistical rates are undeniable. No one likes to admit they have a head start in life. That’s why people fight tooth and nail to deny it.
Then why this newfound and incessant denigration of the nation that provides the most opportunity for all in the world?
posted by geeblock
its not that hard to understand.
Always have to add in a personal insult to someone trying to share a point of view. Sounds like 5th grade to me.
posted by kizer permanenteYou’re missing the point homie… it has nothing to do with peoples struggles. Of course everyone has their own struggles. Of course poor white people have it hard too. It’s why Trump won. Bc poor white people are tired of hearing how they have it better than black people. Bc it doesn’t feel like they do. But it has nothing to do with how well off you are or your personal struggles. There’s no denying that across almost the entire world, not just the US, people with black skin are perceived inferior to people with lighter skin. When you look at business and industry, the statistical rates are undeniable. No one likes to admit they have a head start in life. That’s why people fight tooth and nail to deny it.
I'm not missing anything. You say "no one likes to admit they have a head start in life". My point is that you're making just as big a generalization with that as someone who believes a certain race of people is always less capable of something.
posted by justincredibleThis would be one hell of an upset.
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— Fuzzy Taylor (@FuzzyTaylor235) November 3, 2021
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI'm not missing anything. You say "no one likes to admit they have a head start in life". My point is that you're making just as big a generalization with that as someone who believes a certain race of people is always less capable of something.
You are missing everything. It's not about generalizations. like... literally doesn't have anything to do with the fact that white people... especially white dudes.. can't experience racism. Definitely not in the US. There has to be a form of oppression or marginalization to experience racism. That doesn't describe white dudes. I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue? It doesn't seem you're very sure what you're trying to argue either,
I bet you're all going to change each others minds on this topic. Definitely.
posted by kizer permanenteYou are missing everything. It's not about generalizations. like... literally doesn't have anything to do with the fact that white people... especially white dudes.. can't experience racism. Definitely not in the US. There has to be a form of oppression or marginalization to experience racism. That doesn't describe white dudes. I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue? It doesn't seem you're very sure what you're trying to argue either,
If I'm trying for a job where a big part of who gets it is the result of a test, and minorities are getting bonus points, am I not a victim of racism?
posted by queencitybuckeyeIf I'm trying for a job where a big part of who gets it is the result of a test, and minorities are getting bonus points, am I not a victim of racism?
Would you say you're being oppressed? I probably wouldn't.
You're a business owner right? Do you have many.. hell any jobs that give minorities bonus points? Do you think most job/places do? Or would you say that's a relatively rare practice designed to TRY to combat some inequalities?
Oppression requires an element of systemic or prolonging injustice. Now if you were unemployed and every job or nearly every job you tried to get was just too hard because minorities had a better chance.. then yeah Id say you experienced racism.. but you and I both know this isnt the case. Never has been.
in before Jmog and his stories of oppression as a white college student lol jkjk but really we do remember the stories so no need to rehash.
posted by justincredibleI bet you're all going to change each others minds on this topic. Definitely.
I think everyone knows better than that lol . I don't mind the discussion though.
posted by kizer permanenteWould you say you're being oppressed? I probably wouldn't.
You're a business owner right? Do you have many.. hell any jobs that give minorities bonus points? Do you think most job/places do? Or would you say that's a relatively rare practice designed to TRY to combat some inequalities?
Oppression requires an element of systemic or prolonging injustice. Now if you were unemployed and every job or nearly every job you tried to get was just too hard because minorities had a better chance.. then yeah Id say you experienced racism.. but you and I both know this isnt the case. Never has been.
I would say I'm being oppressed in my scenario. The example (with the bonus points) is common for many civil service jobs. I am being penalized due the the color of my skin.
I do not buy your definition requiring the injustice to be long-term. If today is the first time I'm disadvantaged by the color of my skin, I'm a victim of racism.
posted by queencitybuckeyeI would say I'm being oppressed in my scenario. The example (with the bonus points) is common for many civil service jobs. I am being penalized due the the color of my skin.
I do not buy your definition requiring the injustice to be long-term. If today is the first time I'm disadvantaged by the color of my skin, I'm a victim of racism.
That’s the definition of oppression though, right? Otherwise everyone, everyday is oppressed. We'd all be able to say it if we just experience it. But obviously we aren't all oppressed.
Your definition of oppression is one, oppression as a state of being is another dictionary definition of the word, which does not require it to be long-term.
Accepting your definition for the moment, are you taking the position that a lack of oppression makes racism acceptable?