Tribe Talk- Off Season Chatter

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Jan 12, 2020 10:01 AM
posted by Verbal Kint

Puig was projected to be 1 year, 8M

 

He hit 2 HR in 49 games with Cleveland last year

Which is the perfect storm ... his market value is down,  but he has a huge upside.  Go get him, Mike!

 

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 107 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Jan 12, 2020 3:54 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

 

He hit 2 HR in 49 games with Cleveland last year

He did bat .297, though. 

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Jan 12, 2020 9:11 PM
posted by BRF

He did bat .297, though. 

And played inredible defense

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 164 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Jan 12, 2020 10:18 PM
posted by Laley23

And played inredible defense

Team and fans loved him in the clubhouse

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 107 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jan 13, 2020 12:18 AM
posted by Laley23

And played inredible defense

Indeed. 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Tue, Jan 21, 2020 1:24 PM

ESPN has posted an article that projects Visquel elected in 2025.  Currently at 48% reported, expected near 50%, should gain votes slowly over the next few years.

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 21, 2020 1:51 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

ESPN has posted an article that projects Visquel elected in 2025.  Currently at 48% reported, expected near 50%, should gain votes slowly over the next few years.

Yep, O is trending in the right direction from the start. Might take a down year to get him over the hump, but I expect it will happen.

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 21, 2020 10:22 PM

Omar got 52.6%, and in only his 3rd year. He is going to get in, which is a shock to me — but deserved imo. I’ll predict when the steroid guys are off the ballot (Bonds/Clemens/Sosa) and Schilling (may get in next year) he gets it. I think that would put it at 2023? Don’t see 10 guys being ahead of him at that point, especially with weak additions next year. 

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 7:53 AM

Omar deserves to be in the HOF.

Braves get former  Cardinals OF Marcell Ozuna.

Twins sign 3B Josh Donaldson in 4 year deal.

Tribe concentrates effort on Tribe Fest 2020!.... party on dudes!

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 11:45 AM
posted by Laley23

Omar got 52.6%, and in only his 3rd year. He is going to get in, which is a shock to me — but deserved imo. I’ll predict when the steroid guys are off the ballot (Bonds/Clemens/Sosa) and Schilling (may get in next year) he gets it. I think that would put it at 2023? Don’t see 10 guys being ahead of him at that point, especially with weak additions next year. 

2023 is a weak year for first year guys, Cheater Beltran will not get much love, Ortiz will be second year on ballot, also suspect.  

2022 is the last year year for the big four cheaters: Bonds, Schilling, Clemens, Sosa

Could be perfect storm for the greatest defensive shortstop ever.

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 1:40 PM

Schilling a PED user? I thought he called players out for that?

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 6:29 PM

I dont think Schilling is. He wouldnt be at 70% when others are so far down, imo. But maybe I missed something.

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 9:20 PM

I was incorrect, he was never found to have used.  I think I bundled him in since he was at the congress testimony with Palmerio & McGwire. 

 

He is just not well liked.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 164 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 10:39 PM
posted by HitsRus

Schilling a PED user? I thought he called players out for that?

I say he was

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 164 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 10:40 PM

Saw where Francisco L is now on the Phillies

Liriano

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 10:42 PM
posted by Ironman92

I say he was

I think a lot of writers do as well, otherwise he probably would've been in already.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 164 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 22, 2020 11:34 PM
posted by Laley23

I think a lot of writers do as well, otherwise he probably would've been in already.

For me I remember young Curt Schilling throwing 93-94 then I see Diamondbacks Schilling in his mid 30’s throwing 99. So many were cheating then and things like that push me hard to a cheater.

Clemens was great for about 8 years and was falling off and losing velocity....then goes to Toronto and wins 2 Cy’s and kept on going. I’m not convinced Roger was going to ever get back close to the first 8 years....Bonds along with Griffey were the best in the game. Bonds without roids was going on to huge career numbers. Maybe only 550-600 HR but doubles, hits, SB all higher. Just my thoughts

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 123 reps Joined Feb 2010
Thu, Jan 23, 2020 8:50 AM

Paul Dolan won some kind of lifetime achievement award from the Cleveland community last night and dropped some kind of non-funny "I'm going to enjoy our shortstop while he's still here but you may not" or something to that effect line in his acceptance speech. It might have gotten some laughs from the bigwigs at this event but Average Joe fan will probably be pissed when they hear it.

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 123 reps Joined Feb 2010
Mon, Jan 27, 2020 10:14 AM

Looking at what Cincinnati has done this offseason is down right embarrassing. Technically, a "smaller market" while Daddy NoBucks sits on his hands and jokes about "enjoying" Lindor while he's here. I'm not as much a proponent of an MLB salary cap as I am a salary floor. The fact that Mr Penny Pincher won't get this payroll to $100 million is a joke.

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jan 27, 2020 2:32 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Looking at what Cincinnati has done this offseason is down right embarrassing. Technically, a "smaller market" while Daddy NoBucks sits on his hands and jokes about "enjoying" Lindor while he's here. I'm not as much a proponent of an MLB salary cap as I am a salary floor. The fact that Mr Penny Pincher won't get this payroll to $100 million is a joke.

Yeah,  Reds just inked Castellanos.

So hard to be an Indians fan. ..... Watching the window close.  :(

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