Browns BS Drama continued Part II...

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Aug 10, 2018 9:15 AM
posted by BR1986FB

I differ on the defense. Not overly impressed. Still think they are a major work in progress. I will say that this team should be able to throw the ball this year but running it could be tough going.

Nice to see actual competent QB play. When you look at last year's QB room, compared to this years. it makes you think Sashi was sabotaging this team.

TT looked like a pro's pro, getting the job done in a workmanlike fashion but there's no way he makes that throw that Baker threw to Njoku for the TD. Hell, about 70% of the QB's in the league probably can't make that throw.

Baker showed me what I wanted to see out of him...that the stage/moment wasn't too big. Granted, he was facing guys that will likely be selling used cars and driving beer trucks in a few weeks but he did what was expected of him and, for the most part, did it well.

Future looks pretty bright from what I saw last night.

P.S. The Giants freakin blow

Well, he was taking the Sixers "trust the process" approach.  

vball10set paying it forward
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Fri, Aug 10, 2018 10:14 AM
posted by BR1986FB

I differ on the defense. Not overly impressed. Still think they are a major work in progress.

 

A work in progress, yes--but major? I liked their aggressive schemes, and I think they're talented as hell on that side of the ball--so "major work in progress" didn't come to mind when I watched them last night...jmo

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Aug 10, 2018 2:33 PM

Ugly stat from 2nd team last night. Chubb had 11 yards rushing...but 26 yards after contact...Means he was getting hit before ever even getting to the LOS

Crimson streak Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 10, 2018 3:58 PM
posted by iclfan2

Ugly stat from 2nd team last night. Chubb had 11 yards rushing...but 26 yards after contact...Means he was getting hit before ever even getting to the LOS

That 2nd team o line all need cut. They were pathetic. As for last night, bakers accuracy is off the charts. The TD throw to Njoku was a ball 70% of Qb’s in the league can’t make. The slant on Calloway’s TD was such a perfectly thrown ball, thrown in stride just out of the defenders hands. I’m not going to get ahead of myself but he was extremely impressive last night 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 10, 2018 4:50 PM
posted by Crimson streak

 The TD throw to Njoku was a ball 70% of Qb’s in the league can’t make. 

Glad to see we agree.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 10, 2018 4:52 PM

I’m not worried about the defense. They’ll be improved just based on the fact they won’t be on the field so long and won’t be put in shitty situations (kizer). 

They played what? 2 series last night? 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 7:45 AM

And the pot is starting to stir.....not sure if it will be part of Hard Knocks, which I doubt because it would be stupid of the Browns (who have veto power over what airs), but Todd Haley supposedly made the comment "it's not my decision to keep Baker on the bench" (or something to that effect)). I like Haley's coaching approach, so far, but have heard he can rub a lot of people the wrong way right out of the gate.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 8:40 AM

I think Baker did very well for his first start. But if you look at what he did and look at what Tyrod did, and still want Baker to start out of the gate... well then I'm not sure what to tell you. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 8:43 AM
posted by kizer permanente

I think Baker did very well for his first start. But if you look at what he did and look at what Tyrod did, and still want Baker to start out of the gate... well then I'm not sure what to tell you. 

Too small of a sample size but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd like to see what Baker could do with the 1's in that 3rd preseason game. He brings a dynamic to the game that TT will never have.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 8:43 AM
posted by BR1986FB

And the pot is starting to stir.....not sure if it will be part of Hard Knocks, which I doubt because it would be stupid of the Browns (who have veto power over what airs), but Todd Haley supposedly made the comment "it's not my decision to keep Baker on the bench" (or something to that effect)). I like Haley's coaching approach, so far, but have heard he can rub a lot of people the wrong way right out of the gate.

I've read he has an abrasive personality, but if this all is stemming from the Hard Knocks scene it is a complete overreaction.  Anyone who actually watched that scene, instead of reading the "tabloids," would realize it wasn't as dramatic as some are making it out to be.  If people still are making that scene out to be dramatic, then they have never been in a football locker room.  That shit more than likely happens on a weekly basis in most NFL facilities.   BR, you know better too.  I am not sure why every year it has to be TMZ for you for every single team in Cleveland. 

Regardless, that organization needs quite a few people to break the group think/conventional thought that has given us 2 winning seasons since 1999.  IDGAF if some feelz are hurt and people get mad at each other.  It needs to happen. 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 8:56 AM

LOL Haley made that comment to himself (and the cameras picked it up) a half second after the 60 yard TD throw to callaway. Anyone can say something dramatic in that moment, he was excited. For Christ sake BR no one made it into a big deal but you. Stfu. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 9:04 AM

Also, I'd prefer to focus on the positive of that comment by Haley.  Pretty good sign the OC already thinks Baker is ready to be a NFL starter after one preseason game.   Say what you want about Haley, but he has been around some pretty good QBs during his career. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 9:10 AM
posted by like_that

Also, I'd prefer to focus on the positive of that comment by Haley.  Pretty good sign the OC already thinks Baker is ready to be a NFL starter after one preseason game.   Say what you want about Haley, but he has been around some pretty good QBs during his career. 

Kind of my point. Part of me doesn't want to rush the kid but the other part says that TT will never makes the plays this kid makes, so throw him out there. TT is a decent safety net but I think we all know his ceiling.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 9:11 AM

Yeah, very true. Only BR would somehow spin that into a negative. But par for the course for him. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 9:14 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Yeah, very true. Only BR would somehow spin that into a negative. But par for the course for him. 

Reading isn't your strength, nor is intelligence

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 9:19 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Reading isn't your strength, nor is intelligence

Yeah LOL

by the way, that quote never happened. It was incorrectly tweeted out. Peter King just said that his report was inaccurate. 

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Mon, Aug 13, 2018 12:41 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Yeah LOL

by the way, that quote never happened. It was incorrectly tweeted out. Peter King just said that his report was inaccurate. 

lol classic, slow news day Monday.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 11:12 AM

Looking forward to tonight’s hard knocks. Saw where the ratings were very good for episode 1. Second best opener or something like that. Browns fans are the GOAT. 

Loved the back and forth yesterday with Williams and Haley. Haley was pissed defenders were coming too close to baker and Williams said “well fucking block them then!”

Crimson streak Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 4:11 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Looking forward to tonight’s hard knocks. Saw where the ratings were very good for episode 1. Second best opener or something like that. Browns fans are the GOAT. 

Loved the back and forth yesterday with Williams and Haley. Haley was pissed defenders were coming too close to baker and Williams said “well fucking block them then!”

Looks like we are going to get some good info on why Coleman was traded too. My guess is bc he was dogging it and being a POS in the locker room

 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 5:23 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Looks like we are going to get some good info on why Coleman was traded too. My guess is bc he was dogging it and being a POS in the locker room

 

Coleman was in the dog house for a long time. They were trying to move him for months. What they got for him was essentially saying "at least we got something because we were probably going to cut your ass anyway."

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