posted by like_thatI disagree with this. I think he is good enough to not lose games. In the NFL that is not good enough unless you have an all time defense (we don't).
Yep, that's the party line on TT..."not going to lose games for you but not going to win them either."
If you look at his stat line over the last 6-8 games between Buffalo & Cleveland, it's not even really "average."
The kicker cost us both those games. You guys can spin it to fit your TT sucks agenda all you want, but the fact is ZG cost us two wins by not being able to kick field goals. Were we perfect in all other aspects of the game? Absolutely not. But did everyone (including TT) do enough to win? Absolutely. But ZG sucks and cost us the games.
I’m fine with Baker starting because he’s going to be very good and I want to see him out there. But I’m not putting this 0-1-1 start on TT, no way.
posted by SportsAndLadyThe kicker cost us both those games. You guys can spin it to fit your TT sucks agenda all you want, but the fact is ZG cost us two wins by not being able to kick field goals. Were we perfect in all other aspects of the game? Absolutely not. But did everyone (including TT) do enough to win? Absolutely. But ZG sucks and cost us the games.
I’m fine with Baker starting because he’s going to be very good and I want to see him out there. But I’m not putting this 0-1-1 start on TT, no way.
lol
posted by SportsAndLadyThe kicker cost us both those games. You guys can spin it to fit your TT sucks agenda all you want, but the fact is ZG cost us two wins by not being able to kick field goals. Were we perfect in all other aspects of the game? Absolutely not. But did everyone (including TT) do enough to win? Absolutely. But ZG sucks and cost us the games.
I’m fine with Baker starting because he’s going to be very good and I want to see him out there. But I’m not putting this 0-1-1 start on TT, no way.
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Eight friggin turnovers and ten points. That's anemic and that's not on a kicker. That's historically bad on the offense. Not ALL on TT but it is on the offense.
I don't think anyone's implying that it was ALL Tyrod's fault but his inadequacies were a big part of it. He just limits the offense.
They just faced two defenses that surrendered 40+ points, mostly through the air, and they can only muster 21 & 18? I know the Steeler game was a monsoon but there were too many missed opportunities.
posted by BR1986FBEight friggin turnovers and ten points. That's anemic and that's not on a kicker. That's historically bad on the offense. Not ALL on TT but it is on the offense.
No ones happy with that stat. it’s pathetic.
If you need to make two extra points and a 42 yard fg to win two games, and you don’t win either it’s on the kicker. But agree to disagree.
If the kicker makes the FGs last week, the Browns win. It's hard to put the blame on him for week 1 though. Regardless, TT has not been that impressive.
posted by SportsAndLadyNo ones happy with that stat. it’s pathetic.
If you need to make two extra points and a 42 yard fg to win two games, and you don’t win either it’s on the kicker. But agree to disagree.
GET. MORE. POINTS. OFFENSE. and it doesn't come down to the kicker. To put up 18 points on THAT defense is embarrassing.
Wasn't Weeden's fault either.
posted by BR1986FBGET. MORE. POINTS. OFFENSE. and it doesn't come down to the kicker. To put up 18 points on THAT defense is embarrassing.
Lol what do you want me to tell you dude? TT is not tom Brady. He’s not a top 10-15 QB. He’s going to do just enough to help you win, which he did both times lol.
Were not going to get 40+ points from TT. How are you not getting that?
posted by like_thatIf the kicker makes the FGs last week, the Browns win. It's hard to put the blame on him for week 1 though. Regardless, TT has not been that impressive.
Agreed, TT has not been impressive.
The throw to callaway was impressive. The comeback drives vs the Steelers were impressive. That’s about it.
posted by Commander of AwesomeWasn't Weeden's fault either.
Weeden couldn’t figure out how to get out from under a parachute, let alone figure out an nfl defense.
posted by SportsAndLadyWeeden couldn’t figure out how to get out from under a parachute, let alone figure out an nfl defense.
lmao
To be fair with Weeden, it was a big parachute. And he's never been a guy that can lead a team out from under a parachute. But he is good enough to not let his teammates get trapped under the parachute. /S&L
https://www.facebook.com/TheHerd/videos/307798033107481/
cowherd saying exactly what I’m saying. Stop expecting TT to throw for 330 yards; were a kicker away from 2-0 with the lowly jets coming to town.
posted by SportsAndLadyhttps://www.facebook.com/TheHerd/videos/307798033107481/
cowherd saying exactly what I’m saying. Stop expecting TT to throw for 330 yards; were a kicker away from 2-0 with the lowly jets coming to town.
Also competent QB play away from 2-0
I blame our line more than anything. They’re complete trash.
posted by kizer permanenteI blame our line more than anything. They’re complete trash.
Not anywhere near the main problem. Tyrod has the 7th most time behind the line in the first game. I’m not sure about the 2nd but Tyrod is much more responsible. Yes the kicker sucks but I believe Baker wins one, if not both games
posted by iclfan2Not anywhere near the main problem. Tyrod has the 7th most time behind the line in the first game. I’m not sure about the 2nd but Tyrod is much more responsible. Yes the kicker sucks but I believe Baker wins one, if not both games
Lol. Based off ONLY your complete guess, I hope?
No one knows how baker would do because he’s never played a game in the nfl.
