ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 18, 2010 1:55pm
LeBron leaving 'cause the Knicks got Tracy fuckin' McGrady...
c'mon man, really?
c'mon man, really?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 1:57pm
No its because NYK can give LeBron a 2nd star like Boshytownfootball wrote: LeBron leaving 'cause the Knicks got Tracy fuckin' McGrady...
c'mon man, really?
What they don't tell you is that they will still have no depth, a crappy coach with no defense, and a stupid front office crew.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 1:59pm
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Just talked to one GM who says Miami calling to lay ground work for pre-draft and summer trades. Don't seem like they're doing deal now.
Just talked to one GM who says Miami calling to lay ground work for pre-draft and summer trades. Don't seem like they're doing deal now.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Feb 18, 2010 2:00pm
Only an hour left, will probably be pretty quiet.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Feb 18, 2010 2:01pm
I think all the deals that will be made are ton. There won't be any more significant trades made at this point.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Feb 18, 2010 2:04pm
McGrady to the Knicks? That opens up a ton of space for the Lebron James sweepstakes.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:05pm
Yes it does.mallymal614 wrote: McGrady to the Knicks? That opens up a ton of space for the Lebron James sweepstakes.
Also leaves the Knicks with a shitty roster come Opening Day next season.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 18, 2010 2:06pm
sarcasm, the Knicks offer a lot less than what the Cav's have now, or will have. Not to mention a front office that gets things done when at all possible.devil1197 wrote:No its because NYK can give LeBron a 2nd star like Boshytownfootball wrote: LeBron leaving 'cause the Knicks got Tracy fuckin' McGrady...
c'mon man, really?
What they don't tell you is that they will still have no depth, a crappy coach with no defense, and a stupid front office crew.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Feb 18, 2010 2:08pm
Just like Chris Brossard said on SportsCenter......Wade, Lebron, or Bosh won't go to NY by themselves. What the Knicks trade does is open space for them to land TWO of the stars. This is huge!
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Feb 18, 2010 2:08pm
God I can't wait for all of this LeBron leaving shit to be over with.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Feb 18, 2010 2:10pm
You need more than 2 to win a championship. They have nothing left.mallymal614 wrote: Just like Chris Brossard said on SportsCenter......Wade, Lebron, or Bosh won't go to NY by themselves. What the Knicks trade does is open space for them to land TWO of the stars. This is huge!
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 18, 2010 2:11pm
There's an impending cap on the way that will cause them issues with supporting casts however.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Feb 18, 2010 2:13pm
Yes this is so exciting!!!!!!!mallymal614 wrote: Just like Chris Brossard said on SportsCenter......Wade, Lebron, or Bosh won't go to NY by themselves. What the Knicks trade does is open space for them to land TWO of the stars. This is huge!
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:14pm
Once again, no its not.mallymal614 wrote: Just like Chris Brossard said on SportsCenter......Wade, Lebron, or Bosh won't go to NY by themselves. What the Knicks trade does is open space for them to land TWO of the stars. This is huge!
What is NYK going to do, play 2 v 5 with a coach that has no clue how to play defense?
NYK will have terrible depth and a roster that won't look nearly as good as:
PG: Williams/West/Gibson
SG: West/Parker/Gibson
SF: LeBron/Moon/Jawad/Green
PF: Jamison/AV/JJ/Powe/Jawad
C: Shaq/Z/AV (if they do not retire)
Plus the MLE to land another good player (possible SG starter imo or C if Shaq or Z retire).
Its just not going to happen. Cleveland is stacked for a couple years now since most of the team is under contract and the majority are young (LeBron, Mo, West, Gibson, Moon, JJ, AV, Powe, Jawad, Green etc).
Add an owner who will do anything to win and a GM who actually knows what he is doing.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Feb 18, 2010 2:16pm
They will have Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, LeBron, Bosh, Jordan Hill, their choice of veterans for their mid level and biannual exceptions. Not very deep, but good enough for LeBron to go.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Feb 18, 2010 2:17pm
I doubt Shaq is in Cleveland next year
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Feb 18, 2010 2:20pm
And Cleveland will be good enough for LeBron to stay.Cleveland Buck wrote: They will have Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, LeBron, Bosh, Jordan Hill, their choice of veterans for their mid level and biannual exceptions. Not very deep, but good enough for LeBron to go.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 18, 2010 2:20pm
If LeBron stays I say he stays. If LeBron goes, he retires.Trueblue23 wrote: I doubt Shaq is in Cleveland next year
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 18, 2010 2:21pm
Jordan Hill is gone, and besides Bosh none of those players are as good as Mo, Jamison, Delonte, AV, etc..Cleveland Buck wrote: They will have Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, LeBron, Bosh, Jordan Hill, their choice of veterans for their mid level and biannual exceptions. Not very deep, but good enough for LeBron to go.
He's staying in Cleveland book it!
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:29pm
Since Jordan Hill just got traded to Houston, I doubt he'll be in NYK next year so you can count that young guy gone.Cleveland Buck wrote: They will have Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, LeBron, Bosh, Jordan Hill, their choice of veterans for their mid level and biannual exceptions. Not very deep, but good enough for LeBron to go.
Gallinari is not that better than JJ right now and he plays way more than JJ. LeBron has already stated that he thinks JJ will become a star PF.
Gallinari 32.3 mpg/14.3 ppg/5.2 rpg/41% FG
Hickson 19.3 mpg/ 7.4 ppg/ 4.4 rpg/55 % FG
Hell, AV is better than Gallinari overall. So Cleveland has two PF's that are close to or better than Gallinari.
Chandler has better stats but he also gets more minutes than any of the guys on Cleveland's team plus he shoots way more. He is no better than West imo.
Now you rely on hopefully getting Bosh, not 100%.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Feb 18, 2010 2:34pm
Bron Bron will be back. You can book it. I can't wait till he signs so people will shut up with the idea that he is gone.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:34pm
Exactly, Cleveland's roster is loaded for at least two years along with the MLE and great front office.
He isn't going anywhere.
He isn't going anywhere.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 18, 2010 2:38pm
The Cav's front office did a damn fine job as it looks like Amare is going nowhere.
This more than anything is what will keep LBJ in Cleveland, deep pockets and a willingness to make deals that others can't or won't. Phoenix just screwed themselves pretty badly imo, they're left with an unhappy star who will likely option out and they're now holding him. They dropped the ball, and could be bent over a barrel in any summer trade talks.
This more than anything is what will keep LBJ in Cleveland, deep pockets and a willingness to make deals that others can't or won't. Phoenix just screwed themselves pretty badly imo, they're left with an unhappy star who will likely option out and they're now holding him. They dropped the ball, and could be bent over a barrel in any summer trade talks.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Feb 18, 2010 2:40pm
LeBron will probably sign another 3 or 4 year max type deal..
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 18, 2010 2:47pm
Sources indicate Cavs are done. Had talks looking for draft picks, appears like nothing can be done now.