Strapping Young Lad wrote: Why does he assume that players today have 10x's the basketball IQ of those in the past??? Oh wait, because he's an idiot, that's right....

That's just some stupid made up unbelievable "statistic" that he made up to make himself think he knows what he's talking about....

Average playesr Bball IQ is 10 times higher than back in the day??? Prove that!!!

Boston had actual ball movement and would get open look after open look. And yes they would hit those shots. Lebron would foul out via charges and help defense.

• Zone defense rules clarified with new rules for Illegal Defensive Alignments.
a. Weak side defenders may come in the pro lane (16’), but not in the college lane (12’) for more than three seconds.
b. Defender on post player is allowed in defensive three-second area (A post player is any player adjacent to paint area).
c. Player without ball may not be double-teamed from weak side.
d. Offensive player above foul line and inside circle must be played by defender inside dotted line.
e. If offensive player is above the top of the circle, defender must come to a position above foul line.
f. Defender on cutter must follow the cutter, switch, or double-team the ball.
• After the first illegal defense violation, the clock is reset to 24 seconds. All subsequent violations result in one free throw and possession of the ball. If any violation occurs during the last 24 seconds of each quarter or overtime period, the offended team receives one free throw.

SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL yes, well said--except for the fact that zone defense is legal. Which tells me that you haven't watched the NBA any more than you've watched Oprah in 5-6 years. No wonder you don't think it's basketball. Zone defense would kill most teams that ran it in the NBA. Guys are too athletic and learned ways to beat zones as fundamentals. A lot of older guys don't think the NBA is basketball anymore either--what they don't realize is that the average players basketball IQ is 10 times higher than it was back in the day because the game has evolved based on what those former players did so the game is played a lot differently now.

devil1197 wrote:

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Why does he assume that players today have 10x's the basketball IQ of those in the past??? Oh wait, because he's an idiot, that's right....

That's just some stupid made up unbelievable "statistic" that he made up to make himself think he knows what he's talking about....

Average playesr Bball IQ is 10 times higher than back in the day??? Prove that!!!

This entire argument is based on those examples.

Bo's comment like this is the exact same thing. You have no idea that LeBron would foul out or if those teams would actually hit shots. There is no factual information to back up those claims.

Boston had actual ball movement and would get open look after open look. And yes they would hit those shots. Lebron would foul out via charges and help defense.

SQ_Crazies wrote: Ok, do it...

Did I ever say that every player today has a higher IQ than before? No, I clearly said that the average player has a higher basketball IQ than the average player from the 80's. Why? Because the game has evolved, become a lot bigger, studied deeper and in different ways--thats on top of what was already done back then. It's more widely taught and there are smarter teachers--guys that have been in the game 30, 40, 50, 60 years. Technology has made athletes bigger, stronger, faster and more able to achieve their potential. When you're able to do more physically then you're able to move on and learn more about the intricacies of the game. When you know those intricacies and you can study them then you know how to beat them, how to defend them. It's just like QB's studying defenses and knowing what's coming--not that they didn't study them before and try to anticipate, it's just easier to do now with the different technologies available. Why do you think defenses are constantly trying to find different ways to disguise coverages, show a QB something they haven't seen. Back in the day there were teams that would line up in a 4-3 and run 4 plays for 90% of the game. Basketball is no different, baseball is no different, (insert sport here) is no different. Things evolve, that's why you respect the past for what it teaches you but don't be stupid enough to think no one learned anything from it. If we're moving backwards then what is the point?

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Who exactly do you think is teaching the players of today??? The players from yesteryear.

jpake1 wrote: Just because somebody is bigger, stronger, and faster doesn't mean they're better. I thought the NFL Combine and bust NBA draft picks would have proven that by now. As for if the players today are smarter than players of the past... well, I'll leave the for the idiots of the huddle to debate for days and days.