JJHuddle.com

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jordo212000's avatar
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 13, 2009 1:10pm
Yeah he has no case whatsoever
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gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Nov 13, 2009 1:10pm
Plus, they're running out of money, but they're gonna blow coin on lawyers to come after you?


ROFLSTOMP
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RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Nov 13, 2009 1:11pm
justincredible wrote: A PM I just received from Matt Natali:

Justin,
I am informing you that the title of this message board is in direct copyright infringements based upon the parameters set forth on JJHuddle.com. It is evident by the content on your board that you have stolen the name from the Bucknut's site. Therefore, prior to forwarding to our legal team, I am giving you the opportunity to remove the word "Huddle" from your site and web address. If this is not removed by 14:00 on 13November09, our legal team will be contacted and rights to the name will be fully pursued at your own expense.

Thank you,
Matt Natali
You have 1 hour......

Seriously? Wow.
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freedomposter
Posts: 38
Nov 13, 2009 1:11pm
www.chicksinthehuddle.com
www.insidethehuddle.com
www.heelsinthehuddle.com
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Nov 13, 2009 1:12pm
Yappi.com ... oh shit now I'm saying their website.. does that mean I am causing this site to infringe on them?

He can't control what we say, and what we say does not mean this site has copied anything.
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Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Nov 13, 2009 1:14pm
So he comes on here... begs us to come back (the same people they couldn't ban fast enough) and then try to destroy the very place we created and wan't.

Seriously. Does the JJHuddle brain trust have no foresight? Are they incapable of understanding that the community has rejected them and their rules and regulations. You can't make people do what you want all the time. The communist government act doesn't work. This really is America where people will reject you if you try to strong arm them. We like to be able to view our opinions and talk. We don't want to be controlled by an overprotective fatherly figure.
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derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Nov 13, 2009 1:15pm
Go fuck yourself Matt
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Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 13, 2009 1:15pm
The name isn't the only issue. The content here (the message board) is very similar to what they have. Combine that with the name and they might have a case. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, but that is what I got from it.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Nov 13, 2009 1:16pm
derek bomar wrote: Go fuck yourself Matt
lol
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Nov 13, 2009 1:16pm
The content on tons of sites does that. If anything this one resembles Yappi more than JJ
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chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Nov 13, 2009 1:17pm
Cleveland Buck wrote: The name isn't the only issue. The content here (the message board) is very similar to what they have. Combine that with the name and they might have a case. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, but that is what I got from it.
But the content, other than the message board skeleton is all user generated.

So its copyright infringement to have a sports forum with a similar setup? Doubt it.

The name, I can see them getting pissed, but no way they can have a stronghold on the huddle name.
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Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 13, 2009 1:18pm
chicago510 wrote:
Cleveland Buck wrote: The name isn't the only issue. The content here (the message board) is very similar to what they have. Combine that with the name and they might have a case. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, but that is what I got from it.
But the content, other than the message board skeleton is all user generated.

So its copyright infringement to have a sports forum with a similar setup? Doubt it.

The name, I can see them getting pissed, but no way they can have a stronghold on the huddle name.
I'm just saying that's what I took from the PM. I don't have any idea if they have a case or not.
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freedomposter
Posts: 38
Nov 13, 2009 1:19pm
I am no lawyer but I read the "terms of use page" http://www.jjhuddle.com/termsofuse/
And I am not seeing anything that says you cannot set up a website like this. so long as you did not copy things from thier site like color, logos and such.
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chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Nov 13, 2009 1:20pm
Cleveland Buck wrote: I'm just saying that's what I took from the PM. I don't have any idea if they have a case or not.
I hear you. I'm no lawyer either, but it seems like blasphemy.
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freedomposter
Posts: 38
Nov 13, 2009 1:20pm
I copied the terms of use so if they decide to change it:
Terms of Use
Thank you for visiting JJHuddle.com ("JJHuddle"). Your access to and use of JJHuddle website and/or services is exclusively governed by these terms of use. Please read the terms outlined below carefully before using JJHuddle website and/or services as, by accessing or using our website and/or services, you accept and agree to be bound by these terms of use. JJHuddle reserves the right, at our discretion, to modify, remove or add to these terms of use at any time.
The data contained on JJHuddle website and/or services is for entertainment, educational, and informational purposes only, and is not represented to be free from any error. Our website and/or services are provided on an "as is, available basis." JJHuddle does not warrant that any of the functions of the website and/or services will be uninterrupted or error-free, or that the website or services will be free of any or all harmful components. Any links to information not associated with JJHuddle are provided as a courtesy and do not constitute any endorsement by JJHuddle.

MODIFICATION

JJHuddle may from time to time make modifications, alterations or changes to its website and/or services, including the terms of use, without prior notice. Please check the terms of use page periodically as your continued use of JJHuddle website or services following the modifications, additions or removal of the terms means that you accept the changes.

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY STATEMENT

All content on JJHuddle website and/or services is the copyrighted material of JJHuddle or the appropriate contributor, and is protected by United States and international copyright, trademark, and other applicable laws. JJHuddle website and/or services may include content, designs, and appearances, as well as trademarks, graphics, slogans, logos, colors, and designs that are the property of JJHuddle or other third parties. Nothing contained on our website and/or service(s) grants any license or other right to any of JJHuddle intellectual property or any third party's intellectual property. You may not copy (other than for personal use, provided that you do not remove any trademark, copyright or any other notice contained in or on the content), modify, distribute, display, reproduce or republish any of the data contained on our website and/or service(s) without obtaining the written permission of JJHuddle.

APPLICABLE LAW

JJHuddle website and service(s) are created and controlled in the State of Ohio. As a result, the laws of the State of Ohio will govern the terms of use without giving effect to any principles of conflicts of laws. The parties agree that a condition of using JJHuddle website and/or service(s) is that any and all claims that arise out of the use of this website and/or service(s) will be tried in a court in the State of Ohio and Ohio law will apply. The Ohio courts in Montgomery County, Ohio shall have exclusive jurisdiction and venue, and you consent and submit to the personal jurisdiction of such courts over any claim, suit or proceeding arising out of the use of JJHuddle website and/or service(s) or the terms of use.

COMMUNICATIONS

As part of your use of JJHuddle website and/or service(s), you agree to receive a series of ongoing communications regarding the website and/or service(s). Upon the receipt of these communications, you will have the option to opt-out or unsubscribe.

USER CONTENT

Any user-generated exchanges of information, including any content that you exchange, share, send or otherwise make available through JJHuddle website and/or service(s) ("User Content") is your responsibility and JJHuddle assumes no liability or responsibility for such User Content. As the user of JJHuddle website and/or service(s), you acknowledge that the community-oriented functionality of the website and/or service(s) is inherently intended to provide users with the opportunity to share and provide information that you voluntarily provide and desire to make public. JJHuddle does not make any representations or guarantees of confidentiality or privacy and accepts no responsibility for User Content and other information provided by users of JJHuddle website and/or service(s).

In addition, JJHuddle does not control the User Content posted via the website and/or service(s) and, as such, does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such User Content. Under no circumstances will JJHuddle be liable in any way for any User Content, or for any loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of the use of any User Content posted, e-mailed, transmitted or otherwise made available via the website and/or service(s).

JJHuddle expressly states and you acknowledge and understand that JJHuddle is not accepting any responsibility for monitoring or policing the exchange of User Content. However, as the provider of the website and/or service(s), JJHuddle reserves the right to monitor, view, store, forward, and use any and all information and content provided.

You agree not to use JJHuddle website and/or services to:

(a) submit materials that are protected by copyright, patent or any other proprietary rights unless you are the owners of such material or have license or permission from the owner of any such proprietary rights to provide the material;

(b) upload, post, e-mail, transmit or otherwise make available any User Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defaming, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

(c) harm minors in any way;

(d) impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, any employee of JJHuddle or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;

(e) manipulate identifiers in any way in order to disguise the origin of any User Content transmitted through JJHuddle website and/or service(s);

(f) upload, post, e-mail, transmit or otherwise make available any User Content that you do not have a right to make available under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships;

(g) upload, post, e-mail, transmit or otherwise make available any material that contains software, viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;

(h) upload, post, e-mail, transmit or otherwise make available any material that contains any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising or promotional materials; or

(i) collect or store personal data about other users.

You acknowledge that JJHuddle does not pre-screen User Content, but that JJHuddle and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to refuse or move any User Content that is available via JJHuddle website and/or service(s). JJHuddle and its designees shall have the right to remove any User Content that violates the terms of use or is otherwise objectionable.

You acknowledge and agree that JJHuddle may preserve User Content and may also disclose User Content if required to do so by law or in a good faith belief that such preservation or disclosure is reasonable necessary to: (1) comply with legal process; (b) enforce the terms of use; (c) respond to claims that any User Content violates the rights of third-parties; or (d) protect the rights, property or personal safety of JJHuddle, its users, and the public.

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR USE OF JJHUDDLE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICES IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. JJHUDDLE AND ITS AFFILIATES, THIRD-PARTY LICENSORS, AND SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES, AND AGENTS DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, IN CONNECTION WITH THE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S) AND YOUR USE THEREOF.

JJHUDDLE MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES REGARDING THE ACCURACY OR COMPLETENESS OF THE CONTENT ON THE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S) OR ON ANY SITES LINKED TO THIS SITE AND ASSUMES NO LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY (1) ERRORS, MISTAKES OR INACCURACIES, (2) PERSONAL INJURY OR PROPERTY DAMAGE OF ANY NATURE WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM YOUR USE OF THE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S), (3) ANY UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR USE OF JJHUDDLE SECURE SERVERS OR ANY AND ALL PERSONAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION STORED ON THE SERVERS, (4) ANY INTERRUPTION OR CESSATION OF YOUR USE OF THE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S), OR (5) ANY VIRUSES OR RELATED PROBLEMS THAT MAY BE ACQUIRED OR TRANSMITTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S).

JJHUDDLE DOES NOT REPRESENT, WARRANT, ENDORSE, GUARANTEE OR ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY PRODUCT OR SERVICE ADVERTISED OR OFFERED BY A THIRD PARTY ON THE WEBSITE, SERVICE(S), ANY LINKED WEBSITE OR BANNER OR OTHER ADVERTISING, AND JJHUDDLE WILL NOT IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ANY TRANSACTION BETWEEN YOU AND THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS.

LIMITS OF LIABILITY

IN NO EVENT WILL JJHUDDLE OR ITS AFFILIATES, REPRESENTATIVES, CONTRACTORS OR THEIR RESPECTIVE OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, WHETHER UNDER CONTRACT, TORT OR ANY OTHER THEORY OF LIABILITY, ARISING IN CONNECTION WITH (1) THE USE OF JJHUDDLE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S), (2) ANY FAILURE, ERROR, OMISSION, INTERRUPTION, DEFECT, DELAY, COMPUTER VIRUS OR LOSS OF DATA, (3) ANY LOSS OF USE RELATED TO OUR WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S) OR A LINKED SITE, OR (5) ANY CONTENT ON THIS WEBSITE OR LINKED SITE.

YOU AGREE TO INDEMNIFY, DEFEND AND HOLD HARMLESS JJHUDDLE AND ITS AFFILIATES, LICENSORS AND CONTRACTORS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS FROM AND AGAINST ANY AND ALL THIRD-PARTY CLAIMS, DEMANDS, LIABILITIES, COSTS OR EXPENSES, INCLUDING REASONABLE ATTORNEYS' FEES, ARISING FROM OR RELATED TO ANY BREACH BY YOU OF ANY OF THESE TERMS OF USE OR APPLICABLE LAW, INCLUDING THOSE REGARDING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES

If you are a subscriber to any paid product or service of JJHuddle’s Ohio High publishing, including subscribing to Ohio High Magazine ("subscribed service"), then you are responsible for paying any required fees, including applicable taxes, in accordance with the billing terms in effect at the time the Subscribed Service becomes due and payable. JJHuddle’s Ohio High reserves the right to change the amount of, or basis for determining, any fee or charge for any Subscribed Service we provide, and to institute new fees, charges or terms for the use of the Subscribed Service. JJHuddle’s Ohio High reserves the right to terminate any account for a Subscribed Service at any time for any reason. In the event that JJHuddle’s Ohio High should cancel or otherwise fail to fulfill the Subscribed Services according to the terms under which the subscription was made, JJHuddle’s Ohio High may, at its sole discretion, refund any unexpired portion of fees paid for the Subscribed Service.

JJHuddle’s Ohio High offers its Subscribed Service on an automatic renewal basis and your credit card account will be charged per the billing cycle of your Subscribed Service, unless you terminate your subscription to the Subscribed Service prior to the renewal date. You acknowledge and agree that JJHuddle;s Ohio High is authorized to charge your credit card for Subscribed Services. If you terminate a Subscribed Service, then you will not receive a refund for any unused portion of the Subscribed Service. You may not assign or transfer your subscription to a Subscribed Service to any other person or entity.

You are responsible for providing all computer hardware and software or other equipment necessary to manage your Subscribed Service. Access to and use of a Subscribed Service requires a combination of an identification name and a password. You must keep this identification name and password confidential and JJHuddle’s Ohio High shall not be liable for your failure to do so. You must notify JJHuddle’s Ohio High of any changes with respect to your information, including changes in mailing address, changes in your contact information, and the loss or unauthorized disclosure of any password or identification. Until you send notice to JJHuddle’s Ohio High of any such breach of security, you will remain liable for any unauthorized use of a Subscribed Service.

A Subscribed Service is for the private, noncommercial enjoyment of subscribers only and any other use is strictly prohibited. You agree not to copy, publish, or in any way make available publicly any material from a Subscribed Service without the express written consent of JJHuddle’s Ohio High.



GUIDELINES FOR CHILDREN
It is JJHuddle policy to comply with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 and all other applicable laws. By accessing JJHuddle website and/or service(s), you affirm that you are more than 18 years old, are an emancipated minor, or have the consent of your parents or legal guardian and, therefore, are fully capable and competent to abide by and enter into the agreements and obligations set forth in these terms of use.

You further affirm that you are at least 13 years old, as the JJHuddle website and/or service(s) are not intended for children under 13 years old. If you do not comply with this age restriction, then please do not use JJHuddle website and/or service(s).

TERMINATION OF WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICE(S)

JJHuddle reserves the right to terminate the website and/or service(s) in their entirety at any time and for any reason.
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CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Nov 13, 2009 1:20pm
Quick phone call told me that if you named this site something like "FreeJJHuddle.com" ...that would be copyright infringement. Otherwise, the word huddle has no issue.
This site has no "JJ" in it whatsoever.

PLUS,
This site has no Sport/trivia forum. It has no NORTH, SOUTH or any other descriptive of variated football forums, etc.
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milehiiu
Posts: 95
Nov 13, 2009 1:20pm
This place has been in business since 1964. Seems like they have first dibs to the Huddle name.

http://www.huddlehouse.com/
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wls_color
Nov 13, 2009 1:20pm
Regardless of whether or not they have a case or not, it sounds to me like (if this is all real) that Justin may have some issues on his hands. I'm half tempted to shut down Mike's board after seeing this.
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ss7
Posts: 256
Nov 13, 2009 1:21pm
This is bullshit. JJHuddle made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.
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OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Nov 13, 2009 1:21pm
I am sure there are 100 messege boards with similar topics as this one. They are very broad and generalized messege board topics.
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justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 13, 2009 1:21pm
My wife just sent me this:

Can I copyright my domain name?
Copyright law does not protect domain names. The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), a nonprofit organization that has assumed the responsibility for domain name system management, administers the assignation of domain names through accredited registers.

How do I copyright a name, title, slogan or logo?
Copyright does not protect names, titles, slogans, or short phrases. In some cases, these things may be protected as trademarks. Contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199, for further information. However, copyright protection may be available for logo artwork that contains sufficient authorship. In some circumstances, an artistic logo may also be protected as a trademark.

I love that woman.
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wls_color
Nov 13, 2009 1:23pm
Just be careful bro. I'm temporarily shutting down Mike's site until I see what happens on yours.
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milehiiu
Posts: 95
Nov 13, 2009 1:23pm
Hey, Here is another sports forum that uses Huddle in it's name.

http://www.thehuddle.com/
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se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 13, 2009 1:24pm
You have been banned for the following reason:
Per Bucknuts

Date the ban will be lifted: Never
Just got this, no idea why. They didn't even give a reason.
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Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Nov 13, 2009 1:24pm
From reading their intellectual property section and the information provided so far on this board... looks like it's a last desperation attempt that will further alienate more posters from their community. If only somehow we could show everyone over there how big of a jackass these guys are.