2017 Browns Off-Season Thread

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slingshot4ever
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Mar 5, 2017 10:41pm
Gholston ran a 4.58 and also had a 41" vertical
Ht Wt 40-yd dash 10-yd split 20-yd split 20-ss 3-cone Vert Broad BP Wonderlic
6 ft 3 in 266 lb 4.58 s 1.53 s 2.63 s 4.41 s 7.12 s 41 in 10 ft 5 in 37 reps 21
40-yard dash (and splits) and vertical from Ohio State Pro Day on March 7, 2008. All others from NFL Combine[SUP][6][/SUP]
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Mar 6, 2017 9:10am
slingshot4ever;1839822 wrote:Gholston ran a 4.58 and also had a 41" vertical
Ht Wt 40-yd dash 10-yd split 20-yd split 20-ss 3-cone Vert Broad BP Wonderlic
6 ft 3 in 266 lb 4.58 s 1.53 s 2.63 s 4.41 s 7.12 s 41 in 10 ft 5 in 37 reps 21
40-yard dash (and splits) and vertical from Ohio State Pro Day on March 7, 2008. All others from NFL Combine[SUP][6][/SUP]
Garrett was also more productive in college and wasn't really surrounded by great talent on that a&M defense. At least there is no doubt now what we will do at number 1. I'd turn the damn card in now


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Mar 6, 2017 9:37am
slingshot4ever;1839821 wrote:People said that about Vernon Gholston as well....hopefully Garrett pans out
Gholston was a guy that didn't have a position at the next level, no one was touting him as the #1 overall pick before, during, after the combine like Garrett.
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Mar 6, 2017 12:02pm
Pretty sure Gholston was a beast in college, even pwning Jake Long for 2 sacks. That's my memory any ways. I thought it waslove of the game and work ethic in the pros that cost him.
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Mar 6, 2017 12:15pm
Crimson streak;1839842 wrote:Garrett was also more productive in college and wasn't really surrounded by great talent on that a&M defense. At least there is no doubt now what we will do at number 1. I'd turn the damn card in now


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You're giving the Browns too much credit.
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Mar 6, 2017 1:51pm
Garrett number one can't be messed up.
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Mar 6, 2017 3:16pm
This is the NFL. If he's that much of a lock, why not explore a trade? If you can get a deal like the Rams gave up for Goff, Redskins for Griffin, Saints for Williams or Cowboys for Walker, it's worth trying.

The Browns have enough picks that they could immediately use those picks to move around even more into spots.
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Mar 6, 2017 3:24pm
Azubuike24;1839923 wrote:This is the NFL. If he's that much of a lock, why not explore a trade? If you can get a deal like the Rams gave up for Goff, Redskins for Griffin, Saints for Williams or Cowboys for Walker, it's worth trying.

The Browns have enough picks that they could immediately use those picks to move around even more into spots.
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Julio Jones.
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Mar 6, 2017 3:36pm
Signed,

If you fuck up all the picks when you trade down, then of course it looks bad.

Didn't the Browns trade up for Brady Quinn, Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert?
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Mar 6, 2017 3:40pm
The point is, Julio was a sure fire WR pick. And we traded out of it to get more picks and we screwed them up.

Why would we trade out of drafting a sure-fire (my opinion) DE and risk screwing up the picks we received?
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Mar 6, 2017 3:43pm
SportsAndLady;1839929 wrote:The point is, Julio was a sure fire WR pick. And we traded out of it to get more picks and we screwed them up.

Why would we trade out of drafting a sure-fire (my opinion) DE and risk screwing up the picks we received?
Add in JJ Watt, Aldon Smith, Tyron Smith, Wilkerson, etc...
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Mar 6, 2017 3:46pm
If the Patriots are willing to trade Tom Brady, I'll trade them our #1 pick.

So I guess its possible.
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Mar 6, 2017 3:50pm
SportsAndLady;1839929 wrote:The point is, Julio was a sure fire WR pick. And we traded out of it to get more picks and we screwed them up.

Why would we trade out of drafting a sure-fire (my opinion) DE and risk screwing up the picks we received?
In the same vein, JT is/was a solid OL pick and how many playoff wins has he gotten us?
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Mar 6, 2017 3:53pm
Also something to keep an eye on, the pats offered there 1st rounder to the saints for cooks. I don't think the pats would do that if they aren't going to trade garrapolo possibly for the 33rd pick.


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Mar 6, 2017 3:55pm
Gonna take way more than our 2nd rounder to get Garapollo from NE.
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Mar 6, 2017 4:12pm
SportsAndLady;1839937 wrote:Gonna take way more than our 2nd rounder to get Garapollo from NE.
This is where I disagree no one is giving up a top 10 pick for him. And we're not going to give up the 12 for him when there are no other teams that would be offering a first round pick. We have the top pick in the 2nd round, that's better than any other team can offer at this point. I still don't think the browns have offered that pick hence why NE came out saying they aren't going to trade him (bullshit). I think we will see something happen with regards to JG closer to draft day


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Mar 6, 2017 7:46pm
Pryor gone?
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Mar 6, 2017 7:52pm
Ironman92;1839969 wrote:Pryor gone?
Did you see something, or asking us?
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Mar 6, 2017 8:56pm
like_that;1839972 wrote:Did you see something, or asking us?
I did....I don't know my shitty sources from my good sources....after further reading didn't look like a good source so I added the "?"
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Mar 6, 2017 9:29pm
Ironman92;1839982 wrote:I did....I don't know my shitty sources from my good sources....after further reading didn't look like a good source so I added the "?"
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/03/terrelle-pryor-drawing-interest-from-giants-49ers-eagles-titans

Most likely.
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Mar 6, 2017 10:08pm
I hope we sign Pryor but giving him a gigantic contract, similar to one elite WRs sign? Not sure about that.
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Mar 6, 2017 10:30pm
SportsAndLady;1839993 wrote:I hope we sign Pryor but giving him a gigantic contract, similar to one elite WRs sign? Not sure about that.
I agree. I love how he says he wants to stay in Cleveland but yet wants paid like an elite receiver. Sorry but he isn't an elite receiver. Anywhere from 7-10 mil a year is definitely a fair price for him. Anything more he can fuck off


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Mar 7, 2017 12:42am
SportsAndLady;1839993 wrote:I hope we sign Pryor but giving him a gigantic contract, similar to one elite WRs sign? Not sure about that.
I'm sure, sign him.
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Mar 7, 2017 12:42am
Crimson streak;1839997 wrote:I agree. I love how he says he wants to stay in Cleveland but yet wants paid like an elite receiver. Sorry but he isn't an elite receiver. Anywhere from 7-10 mil a year is definitely a fair price for him. Anything more he can fuck off


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Based on, and why? We have like $100m in cap space.
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Mar 7, 2017 6:37am
Welcome to the Browns, Mike Glennon.



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