Commander of Awesome
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Mar 9, 2017 12:44pm
Oh? You're saying high upside athletic lineman who limited snaps aren't better than a 27 yr old former first round pick? Christ crimson, really going out on a limb there. Yes, today Zeitler is a better player. But is he $8m a yr a better player? I'd doubt it. I think Drango and Coleman both looked good with a fucking bum (erving) playing next to them last season. I like where they're at and think Drango could play RG and Coleman play RT at a high level.Crimson streak;1840537 wrote:Zeitler is 5x the player that drango and Coleman are. Would I be upset if we don't get him, no. But he would be a huge upgrade.
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Commander of Awesome
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Mar 9, 2017 12:45pm
Which he has proven an inability to do.Crimson streak;1840540 wrote:Also bitonio's extension is worth about 8.5 a year. Not bad at all if he can stay healthy
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Commander of Awesome
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Mar 9, 2017 12:47pm
I have not been able to collaborate this anywhere. I would say it's probably science fiction.Crimson streak;1840527 wrote:It was on NFL network last night.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 9, 2017 1:07pm
Fugging dirtbag Broncos. Some of these players (Calais Campbell) have verbally agreed with one team and Denver is trying to swoop in and take them away. Heard they might be trying to do that with Britt too.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 9, 2017 1:11pm
I hope they do because Britt is terrible. Not sure why the Browns would overpay for a marginal WR when our QB situation is the worst in NFL history. I'd rather overpay for OL/DL/CB then pay for average WR talent with our QB situation.BR1986FB;1840553 wrote:Fugging dirtbag Broncos. Some of these players (Calais Campbell) have verbally agreed with one team and Denver is trying to swoop in and take them away. Heard they might be trying to do that with Britt too.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 9, 2017 1:14pm
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18863192/kirk-cousins-requesting-trade-washington-redskins
I'd take Cousins if he wants out. If you are interested in a quick turn around for the Browns and to accelerate the plan, it's important to get the QB. Cousins would give us a QB that can play football and possibly give us a chance at winning a playoff game.
Sign him.
I'd take Cousins if he wants out. If you are interested in a quick turn around for the Browns and to accelerate the plan, it's important to get the QB. Cousins would give us a QB that can play football and possibly give us a chance at winning a playoff game.
Sign him.
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BR1986FB
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Mar 9, 2017 1:22pm
Understood but he (Britt) had the same stats, with a shitty QB, just like Pryor. I'm not a Britt fan but his numbers are interchangeable with Pryor's. TBH, I don't GAF what they do until they get that QB. Until they do, they are pissing in the wind.sleeper;1840555 wrote:I hope they do because Britt is terrible. Not sure why the Browns would overpay for a marginal WR when our QB situation is the worst in NFL history. I'd rather overpay for OL/DL/CB then pay for average WR talent with our QB situation.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 9, 2017 1:23pm
Yeah but if reports are true, Pryor turned down $12M which is completely ridiculous.BR1986FB;1840562 wrote:Understood but he (Britt) had the same stats, with a shitty QB, just like Pryor. I'm not a Britt fan but his numbers are interchangeable with Pryor's. TBH, I don't GAF what they do until they get that QB. Until they do, they are pissing in the wind.
But yes, agree on QB. They could sign Lebron James as WR and they'd still go 2-14 without a solid QB.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 9, 2017 1:28pm
I'd call bullshit on that $12M for Pryor, but I guess it's possible.sleeper;1840566 wrote:Yeah but if reports are true, Pryor turned down $12M which is completely ridiculous.
But yes, agree on QB. They could sign Lebron James as WR and they'd still go 2-14 without a solid QB.
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Browns Daily: "Terrelle Pryor sill in play, despite Britt news. Offer from CLE best on table so far. Market not what he expected."
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 9, 2017 1:33pm
Yeah the $12m is total bullshit. He was never offered that.BR1986FB;1840568 wrote:I'd call bullshit on that $12M for Pryor, but I guess it's possible.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 9, 2017 1:42pm
If he was offered that they would've had to write up a whole new contract because he would've pissed all over the paper, with excitement, knowing that someone was dumb enough to offer him that much.Commander of Awesome;1840570 wrote:Yeah the $12m is total bullshit. He was never offered that.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Mar 9, 2017 2:02pm
I tried to find a link to it, but I came across something that said that's what he is asking and they reported it by mistake that the browns offered that. But either way he's asking for 12 million a year and that's absolutely retarded.Commander of Awesome;1840544 wrote:I have not been able to collaborate this anywhere. I would say it's probably science fiction.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 9, 2017 2:36pm
Mark Kay..With Kenny Britt receiving $17M guaranteed from #Browns, chances of Terrelle Pryor returning are getting slim cleveland.com/browns/index.s…
Peace out Pryor. Bye Felicia.
Peace out Pryor. Bye Felicia.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 9, 2017 2:40pm
The Bengals invested and want to see what they have in Fisher and Obuehli.
However, losing him would not only help Cleveland, but significantly hurt an average Bengals o-line.
However, losing him would not only help Cleveland, but significantly hurt an average Bengals o-line.
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BR1986FB
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Mar 9, 2017 2:41pm
Alshon is supposedly going to the Eagles so Chicago is likely a frontrunner for Pryor. Tennessee is likely in the mix too. The question I'd ask is 'are either of those teams willing to throw big money at Pryor?" If Chicago wasn't willing to retain Jeffery, are they going to be willing to spend on Pryor?SportsAndLady;1840597 wrote:Mark Kay..With Kenny Britt receiving $17M guaranteed from #Browns, chances of Terrelle Pryor returning are getting slim cleveland.com/browns/index.s…
Peace out Pryor. Bye Felicia.
BTW....Mary Kay Cabot is THE worst.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 9, 2017 2:43pm
Losing Whitworth & Zeitler is probably not going to help the Ginger Rifle sleep well at night.Azubuike24;1840598 wrote:The Bengals invested and want to see what they have in Fisher and Obuehli.
However, losing him would not only help Cleveland, but significantly hurt an average Bengals o-line.
Azubuike24
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Mar 9, 2017 2:44pm
Zeitler to Browns official.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 9, 2017 2:47pm
Well then, wonder what this means for Greco.
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BR1986FB
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Mar 9, 2017 2:49pm
Probably expendable.Commander of Awesome;1840604 wrote:Well then, wonder what this means for Greco.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @ AdamSchefter now 5 seconds ago Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @ AdamSchefter 33s 34 seconds ago
Cleveland plans to give Kevin Zeitler a five-year, $60 million deal that includes $31.5 million guaranteed, per source.
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 9, 2017 2:54pm
Now Browns need to trade #12 for Jimmy G & the O is basically complete.
sleeper
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Mar 9, 2017 2:55pm
This screams to me a "win now" mode has been activated in Cleveland.BR1986FB;1840605 wrote:Probably expendable.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @ AdamSchefter now 5 seconds ago Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @ AdamSchefter 33s 34 seconds ago
Cleveland plans to give Kevin Zeitler a five-year, $60 million deal that includes $31.5 million guaranteed, per source.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 9, 2017 2:56pm
Unless they decide to draft a RT, they should have a pretty respectable O-Line (JT-Bitonio-Tretter-Zeitler-Drango/Coleman(?). Be nice to see an O-Line that can punch some people in the mouth and consistently RUN the ball. Now get a GD QB !!!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 9, 2017 2:56pm
I'd rather trade for Cousins. The #12 pick or the #33 pick might do it.Commander of Awesome;1840608 wrote:Now Browns need to trade #12 for Jimmy G & the O is basically complete.
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Sonofanump
Mar 9, 2017 2:57pm
Did I see that he will make $975,000 this year? Seems reasonable for the 6th lineman who can play any position.BR1986FB;1840605 wrote:Probably expendable.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @ AdamSchefter now 5 seconds ago Former Bengals G Kevin Zeitler expects to sign with Cleveland, per sources. Big day for Browns O line. Highest paid guard in NFL history.
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @ AdamSchefter 33s 34 seconds ago
Cleveland plans to give Kevin Zeitler a five-year, $60 million deal that includes $31.5 million guaranteed, per source.
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BR1986FB
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Mar 9, 2017 2:58pm
Which is why I've been wanting them to go after someone like Garoppolo versus rolling the dice on one of these rookies. Don't want to see Kessler or "Bob" under center this year and I don't think Hue is going to have the luxury of grooming a rookie QB. Haslam's history has been hair trigger/lack of patience so I'd think it would be "win now."sleeper;1840609 wrote:This screams to me a "win now" mode has been activated in Cleveland.