Breaking down Bernie's plan

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like_that
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Feb 19, 2016 10:23am
This brought the lulz, but also makes me sad. I don't understand my feelz.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269802-trump-mistakes-sanderss-campaign-for-his-own
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BR1986FB
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Feb 19, 2016 12:58pm
This guy is very conservative but you'll get the message (unless you're a shill)....

http://www.youngcons.com/popular-liberal-meme-just-got-annihilated-by-facts/
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gut
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Feb 19, 2016 1:55pm
like_that;1782281 wrote:This brought the lulz, but also makes me sad. I don't understand my feelz.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269802-trump-mistakes-sanderss-campaign-for-his-own
Total "gotchya" question. I'd expect no less from MSNBC (although plenty of conservative reporters probably would have loved to have done the same).

On a side note, it's funny how Repubs will let MSNBC host an event yet Debbie Wasserman-Nutz won't commit to Fox doing a Democratic event.
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Feb 20, 2016 1:56pm
QuakerOats;1782273 wrote:http://humanevents.com/2016/02/17/the-lure-of-socialism/


How any true American could support any socialist is beyond belief, except for the fact that we have a dumb-downed education system and a radically liberal culture in power in higher 'education'.
The scariest part is that people with real college educations (in real majors) still like him. If you work in the real world, it is beyond me how you can like Bernie. It also confuses me when people who worked hard and succeeded in life want to vote for who the poor and 19 year olds do (note: uneducated).
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like_that
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Feb 21, 2016 9:34am
After losing Nevada, I have hard time believing Bernie has any chance.
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Feb 21, 2016 11:04am
like_that;1782506 wrote:After losing Nevada, I have hard time believing Bernie has any chance.
He's cooked.
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Al Bundy
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Feb 21, 2016 11:58am
like_that;1782506 wrote:After losing Nevada, I have hard time believing Bernie has any chance.
His only chance is if Hillary has legal problems.
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gut
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Feb 21, 2016 3:48pm
iclfan2;1782447 wrote:The scariest part is that people with real college educations (in real majors) still like him. If you work in the real world, it is beyond me how you can like Bernie. It also confuses me when people who worked hard and succeeded in life want to vote for who the poor and 19 year olds do (note: uneducated).
It's scary how far left and how quickly the Democartic party is moving. Maybe scarier is the liberal media covers this up pretending it's just the Republican party moving farther right (which is partially true, in reaction to radicals taking over the Dem party). Basically if you don't go along with their bat-shit crazy agenda then you must be a bible thumper that denies science and women.


Been having some political debates with a friend who is a really smart guy. But he ends up being just like many other liberals I've argued with before - cuts you off without even listening to your point, laughing loudly like it's some lie made up by Faux News (which is now the trendy way liberals try to dismiss inconvenient truths), and actually spamming the debate with bullshit Facebook memes. Most of these end with him saying "that's wrong, that's a lie", and me saying "nope go look it up"...but somehow that topic isn't brought up again.

Then you realize he doesn't actually know anything - no numbers, no verifiable facts, and clearly not economics (which are, essentially, the three components of a liberal agenda that is never derived from logical or rational thought).
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Feb 21, 2016 3:55pm
like_that;1782506 wrote:After losing Nevada, I have hard time believing Bernie has any chance.
Even if he has a little chance, the DNC will make sure he doesn't. We already saw that in Nevada.
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like_that
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Feb 21, 2016 5:52pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1782574 wrote:Even if he has a little chance, the DNC will make sure he doesn't. We already saw that in Nevada.
I wasn't paying attention the last few days. What exactly did the DNC do to make sure he didn't win Nevada?
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Con_Alma
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Feb 21, 2016 5:59pm
http://opportunitylives.com/bernies-free-college-plan-sounds-great-if-only-it-made-sense/

The impact of taxing trades on the exchange could blow his whole "free college" plan up.
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Feb 21, 2016 6:15pm
like_that;1782617 wrote:I wasn't paying attention the last few days. What exactly did the DNC do to make sure he didn't win Nevada?
Just more voter fraud like Iowa.
www.infowars.com/video-hillary-supporters-register-after-voting/
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gut
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Feb 21, 2016 6:28pm
Con_Alma;1782623 wrote:http://opportunitylives.com/bernies-free-college-plan-sounds-great-if-only-it-made-sense/

The impact of taxing trades on the exchange could blow his whole "free college" plan up.
I thought some EU country tried this at one point, and it was a failure.

Companies can choose where to list, and de-list. The competitiveness of the US stock exchanges aren't a mainstream news topic, but it's there.

This is nothing more than Bernie tapping in to populist class warfare by simultaneously promising "free" shit and punishing Wall Street.
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Con_Alma
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Feb 21, 2016 6:33pm
That's addressed in the article.
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gut
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Feb 21, 2016 6:39pm
Con_Alma;1782635 wrote:That's addressed in the article.
Yeah. I don't think a lot of socialist supporters realize Bernie and people like him plan to reduce income inequality by making everyone poorer.
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Con_Alma
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Feb 25, 2016 1:54pm
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Feb 25, 2016 2:02pm
Con_Alma;1783240 wrote:Bernie's right. The economy is rigged. :)

http://fortune.com/2016/02/22/dear-bernie-sorry-im-the-problem-with-america/
"Rob May is a VP for the company (Datto) that acquired his company (Backupify) in 2014. Last year the company was investigated by the FBI due to their servers being used to back-up potentially classified e-mails from Hillary Clinton. Rob tries to instill a sense of disappoint in Bernie Sanders stance while choosing not to divulge his position in a company tied to the Hillary Clinton email scandal"

Yeah, I'd say he is what's wrong with America lol
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gut
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Feb 25, 2016 2:03pm
Con_Alma;1783240 wrote:Bernie's right. The economy is rigged. :)

http://fortune.com/2016/02/22/dear-bernie-sorry-im-the-problem-with-america/
That article actually makes a really good point which is deliberately obtuse in the "rigged economy" arguments - it's primarily about multi-millionaires and billionaires. It has very little to do with the average person and wages, people who would never be a successful entrepreneur in any scenario. But, yeah, if you are a modestly successful entrepreneur, the "deck is stacked" against you from taking your business to the next level.

For everyone else, it comes back to a lack of job creation preventing the laws of supply and demand to provide higher wages. And it's interesting to me that the left has almost completely gone away from talking about job creation to focus on redistribution and "fairness", because those agendas are inherently job-killers.
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like_that
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Feb 25, 2016 2:31pm
Bernie is practically a draft dodger (applied for conscientious objector status) and people want to vote him in as our commander in chief? LOL.
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QuakerOats
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Feb 25, 2016 2:47pm
He also dabbled in porn writing it appears back in the day ............. nice; maybe that is why he appeals to one or more on here.
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gut
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Feb 25, 2016 2:49pm
like_that;1783260 wrote:Bernie is practically a draft dodger (applied for conscientious objector status) and people want to vote him in as our commander in chief? LOL.
Yeah, but Bernie was leading protests before doing it just for selfies to post on Facebook was cool
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like_that
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Feb 25, 2016 3:00pm
gut;1783267 wrote:Yeah, but Bernie was leading protests before doing it just for selfies to post on Facebook was cool
Regardless, not a guy I would want to be commander in chief.
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Feb 25, 2016 3:04pm
like_that;1783260 wrote:Bernie is practically a draft dodger (applied for conscientious objector status) and people want to vote him in as our commander in chief? LOL.
He was in college. He wouldn't have to be a draft dodger.
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like_that
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Feb 25, 2016 3:42pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1783269 wrote:He was in college. He wouldn't have to be a draft dodger.
Then why did he apply for conscientious objector?
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Feb 25, 2016 3:55pm
like_that;1783280 wrote:Then why did he apply for conscientious objector?
I would assume because he was in high school when he had to register for the military like most boys.