Archive Breaking down Bernie's plan

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 15, 2016 5:37pm

sleeper;1786921 wrote:So the answer is, "I don't have an example of lazy people with no work ethic being successful".

Delusional.

No the answer is Sleeper gonna Sleeper. Proved wrong but would never accept it.

sleeper

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Mar 15, 2016 5:39pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786925 wrote:No the answer is Sleeper gonna Sleeper. Proved wrong but would never accept it.

When I'm wrong I will admit that I am wrong. That is part of unbiased and rational discourse. I am okay with changing my opinion based on new data and new perspectives. In fact, most people who have a brain and any amount of self-awareness do this; when are you going to grow up?

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 15, 2016 5:51pm

sleeper;1786928 wrote:When I'm wrong I will admit that I am wrong. That is part of unbiased and rational discourse. I am okay with changing my opinion based on new data and new perspectives. In fact, most people who have a brain and any amount of self-awareness do this; when are you going to grow up?

Yeeeeeeeet you never do it.

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Al Bundy

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Mar 15, 2016 6:13pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786919 wrote: There's tons of people that haven't had to hold a job ever in their lives.

And most of them live off of some form of government aid, yet you get upset at the very small percent who aren't a burden on society.

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jmog

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Mar 15, 2016 6:29pm

isadore;1786746 wrote:gosh a ruddies I guess I have been unable to cure your cognitive dissonance.

I just stick to facts while you use your own dilusions.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 15, 2016 6:38pm

Al Bundy;1786942 wrote:And most of them live off of some form of government aid, yet you get upset at the very small percent who aren't a burden on society.

I get upset at them? No I acknowledge they exist. Which is apparently hard to do.

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Con_Alma

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Mar 15, 2016 7:06pm

Maybe there's mutual fail in "Unconditional Responsibility".

This is a straddle the middle of the road position that claims all sides are to blame.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432838/great-poverty-debate-does-anyone-understand-concept-unconditional-responsibility

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Al Bundy

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Mar 15, 2016 11:15pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786948 wrote:I get upset at them? No I acknowledge they exist. Which is apparently hard to do.

You whined about them for pages. Sleeper showed you that there are only 635 such people in this country.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 16, 2016 5:51am

Al Bundy;1787036 wrote:You whined about them for pages. Sleeper showed you that there are only 635 such people in this country.

lol so you only consider billionaires wealthy huh? Wow.. you must make a ton of money. Are millionaires poor nowadays to you?

There's about 11 million millionares in America. Im willing to bet slightly more than 635 of them inherited the wealth.

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Wolves of Babylon

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Mar 16, 2016 6:28am

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1787058 wrote:lol so you only consider billionaires wealthy huh? Wow.. you must make a ton of money. Are millionaires poor nowadays to you?

There's about 11 million millionares in America. Im willing to bet slightly more than 635 of them inherited the wealth.

This article states 80% of self made millionaires are self made. So most is a pretty safe bet.

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queencitybuckeye

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Mar 16, 2016 6:35am

Wolves of Babylon;1787060 wrote:This article states 80% of self made millionaires are self made.

This statistic comes from the department of redundancy department.

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Wolves of Babylon

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Mar 16, 2016 6:36am

queencitybuckeye;1787062 wrote:This statistic comes from the department of redundancy department.

Congrats, you got me on that one. 100 points for you.

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isadore

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Mar 16, 2016 7:06am

jmog;1786946 wrote:I just stick to facts while you use your own dilusions.

obviously your cognitive dissonance causes you to be unable to recognize facts.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 16, 2016 7:09am

Wolves of Babylon;1787060 wrote:This article states 80% of self made millionaires are self made. So most is a pretty safe bet.

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No ones doubting most are.. so your statistics say about 2 million people in America are millionaires through no work of their own. Sleeper thinks 2 million people don't exist.

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Wolves of Babylon

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Mar 16, 2016 7:12am

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1787069 wrote:No ones doubting most are.. so your statistics say about 2 million people in America are millionaires through no work of their own. Sleeper thinks 2 million people don't exist.

And how many of that 20% still work hard? I would bet most of that 20% does.

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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 16, 2016 7:15am

Wolves of Babylon;1787071 wrote:And how many of that 20% still work hard? I would bet most of that 20% does.

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I would bet you have no way of knowing let alone quantifying that.

like_that

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Mar 16, 2016 7:50am

Wolves of Babylon;1787071 wrote:And how many of that 20% still work hard? I would bet most of that 20% does.

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Pretty much this. We can hear liberals QQ all day that kids of rich parents have it good and boo hoo it's not fair, but most of those rig parents pass down their hard working values to their children. Society has just let stupid ass reality shows on E, Bravo, MTV, ruin their perception on these rich folks. They see the kardashians and automatically think every child of a rich parent sits on their ass and lives off the success of their own parents.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 16, 2016 8:06am

like_that;1787078 wrote:Pretty much this. We can hear liberals QQ all day that kids of rich parents have it good and boo hoo it's not fair, but most of those rig parents pass down their hard working values to their children. Society has just let stupid ass reality shows on E, Bravo, MTV, ruin their perception on these rich folks. They see the kardashians and automatically think every child of a rich parent sits on their ass and lives off the success of their own parents.

Sorry.. assumptions and personal perceptions aren't allowed on this site. I'm going to need you to cite these numbers.

SportsAndLady

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Mar 16, 2016 8:15am

like_that;1787078 wrote:Pretty much this. We can hear liberals QQ all day that kids of rich parents have it good and boo hoo it's not fair, but most of those rig parents pass down their hard working values to their children. Society has just let stupid ass reality shows on E, Bravo, MTV, ruin their perception on these rich folks. They see the kardashians and automatically think every child of a rich parent sits on their ass and lives off the success of their own parents.

This.

like_that

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Mar 16, 2016 8:23am

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1787080 wrote:Sorry.. assumptions and personal perceptions aren't allowed on this site. I'm going to need you to cite these numbers.

I will when you give me a number on your corporations argument.

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jmog

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Mar 16, 2016 8:35am

isadore;1787068 wrote:obviously your cognitive dissonance causes you to be unable to recognize facts.

You stated so many more (millions) of Americans are wanting to leave and go to those socialist nations in Europe (you ONLY listed countries from Europe in the EU). I showed you actual immigration statistics from the US to the EU and from the EU to the US. The actual numbers proved you are completely wrong.

But yeah, I have a cognitive dissonance....

O-Trap

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Mar 16, 2016 8:44am

I am convinced that, when it comes to this election, the most valuable position held by any candidate is that none of the other candidates should be president, Bernie included.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 16, 2016 8:53am

like_that;1787084 wrote:I will when you give me a number on your corporations argument.

... that was the point.. to show your hypocrisy. It was fine to hound me about it, but you do the same lol.

SportsAndLady

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Mar 16, 2016 9:15am

Lol guys when I say something illogical it's only to prove how illogical you are being!

/zwicklogic

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isadore

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Mar 16, 2016 9:31am

jmog;1787087 wrote:You stated so many more (millions) of Americans are wanting to leave and go to those socialist nations in Europe (you ONLY listed countries from Europe in the EU). I showed you actual immigration statistics from the US to the EU and from the EU to the US. The actual numbers proved you are completely wrong.

But yeah, I have a cognitive dissonance....

gosh a ruddies what an idiot you are. Read the discussion. Quaker Oats wrote that millions were fleeing from communist and socialist countries to America. And I wrote that also millions of people wanted to go the listed countries in western Europe. But finally you do admit the truth as a blinding revelation at the end of your rave.

jmog wrote: But yeah, I have a cognitive dissonance....