ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 4, 2016 9:44am
The fact hes a grumpy old fuck has nothing to do with his economic ideas and everything to do with his horrible personality.Belly35;1784623 wrote:why is everyone the liberal socialist disagrees with a old fart? Hey! shit for brains we where young also at one time, we grump old fart grew up, began to understand, live in the real world.
Take a hint what you want now, is not what you want for your family, yourself or kids later... you'll understand that you work to hard to just have government take it away.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Mar 4, 2016 10:12am
Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.
Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 4, 2016 10:28am
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuakerOats again.QuakerOats;1784642 wrote:Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.
Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 4, 2016 2:46pm
Because that's the tax rates aren't remotely correlated with receipts.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784594 wrote:Wow. All those taxes and still 7% growth.
Tax rates have varied wildly, but revenues have generally been within +/- 1% of 18.2% of GDP. And that's partly because of loopholes and deductions, but also because taxes for the wealthy are "voluntary" in the sense that capital gains can be deferred for years before they are realized for tax purposes.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Mar 4, 2016 5:56pm
I have never agreed with you moreQuakerOats;1784642 wrote:Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.
Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 4, 2016 7:58pm
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuakerOats again.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Mar 5, 2016 5:35am
That would be communism not socialism ZwickZWICK 4 PREZ;1784583 wrote:I must have missed the part where he suggested taking control of production back to the government. You were at that rally?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Mar 5, 2016 7:32am
Maybe in a pure democracy majority rules but I'm pretty sure just because the majority want something in our country doesn't mean it should or will be. It's never been that way.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784615 wrote:The answer to your question was in your question... Majority rules. If the majority doesn't want social programs and higher taxes, then no it shouldn't. If the majority does, then yes it should. It appears in not in the majority since Hillary is winning the nomination and not Bernie. But it also appears the country is shifting that way since Bernie is winning states and taking votes from Hillary. Will we see it in our lifetimes? Who knows.
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ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 5, 2016 7:39am
a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies.jmog;1784764 wrote:That would be communism not socialism Zwick
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 5, 2016 1:46pm
The main difference between communism and socialism is the latter pretends not to take over industry, but effectively does the same thing with punishing taxes and regulation. It's an indirect method, but still central planning at the end of the day.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 6, 2016 8:11pm
Bernie blaming Flint's water problems on Corporations and Wall Street.......L...M...F...A...O...
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Mar 6, 2016 8:20pm
LOL at asking Hillary if government officials should go to jail over the Flint water crisis.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 6, 2016 8:40pm
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 6, 2016 9:37pm
Bernie blaming Flint's water problems on Corporations and Wall Street.......L...M...F...A...O...
what planet are these guys on?LOL at asking Hillary if government officials should go to jail over the Flint water crisis.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 8, 2016 9:19pm
So much for Hillary being up 21 points in Michigan. How do polls miss that badly?
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Mar 8, 2016 9:29pm
this pattern will continue since the email scandal is going to turn into a trial soonZWICK 4 PREZ;1785232 wrote:So much for Hillary being up 21 points in Michigan. How do polls miss that badly?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 8, 2016 9:39pm
It might turn into a trial, but not for Hillary. If you know anything about America, someone like Hillary Clinton will never have to worry.Spock;1785233 wrote:this pattern will continue since the email scandal is going to turn into a trial soon
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 8, 2016 9:44pm
I wouldn't go that far. Even her husband got impeached and we all know he is 100x the con artist Hillary is.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785237 wrote:It might turn into a trial, but not for Hillary. If you know anything about America, someone like Hillary Clinton will never have to worry.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 8, 2016 9:49pm
Impeached and he's a billionaire today. Like I said.. People like the Clintons never have to worry.like_that;1785239 wrote:I wouldn't go that far. Even her husband got impeached and we all know he is 100x the con artist Hillary is.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Mar 8, 2016 10:17pm
He's a billionaire? No wonder Bernie appeals to people like you who struggle with numbers.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785240 wrote:Impeached and he's a billionaire today. Like I said.. People like the Clintons never have to worry.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 8, 2016 10:26pm
In Zwick's defense he's only $920 million from being a billionaire.Al Bundy;1785241 wrote:He's a billionaire? No wonder Bernie appeals to people like you who struggle with numbers.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Mar 8, 2016 11:09pm
In Bernie math, it's all the sameSportsAndLady;1785242 wrote:In Zwick's defense he's only $920 million from being a billionaire.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 9, 2016 5:51am
Yeah I stand corrected. I had read between Bill and Hillary and the foundation they're worth 1.1 bill, but it looks like a fluff piece. Everything else looks like Bill is 100 mil, Hillary is 200 mil and the foundation is 200 mil. So half a billion.
Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 9, 2016 7:46am
Dude what are you talking about lolZWICK 4 PREZ;1785253 wrote:Yeah I stand corrected. I had read between Bill and Hillary and the foundation they're worth 1.1 bill, but it looks like a fluff piece. Everything else looks like Bill is 100 mil, Hillary is 200 mil and the foundation is 200 mil. So half a billion.
Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
Hillary Clinton is worth roughly $30 million. Bill roughly $80 million.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 9, 2016 7:59am
Yeah another fail on me. When it said Hillary was worth 200 mil it counted the foundation.. so yeah they're not close to billionaires.SportsAndLady;1785259 wrote:Dude what are you talking about lol
Hillary Clinton is worth roughly $30 million. Bill roughly $80 million.