Breaking down Bernie's plan

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Feb 10, 2016 2:48pm
SportsAndLady;1780728 wrote:For all the shit Rubio takes for being "robotic", all Hillary has to do is attack Bernie for doing the same damn thing and she's got it all about wrapped up.

Seriously all you hear from Bernie is "political revolution", "attack the upper 1%", and "disallow major campaign contributors to influence elections."

I can't believe people eat that shit up. Fixing that isn't going to fix the country's problems. It's just shit Bernie says to get young hipsters to finally agree with a politician and get out and vote for him. Not going to win an election and certainly isn't going to make him a good president.
For all the shit Clinton takes for being "unlikeable", all Trump has to do is attack Cruz for being the same damn way and he's got it all about wrapped up.

Seriously all you hear from Trump is "make America great" (with no specifics), "attack non-whites as criminal enemies", and "I'm a great deal maker so trust me".

I can't believe people eat that shit up. Slogans that resonate with angry whites aren't going to fix the country's problems. It's just shit Trump says to get young frat boys and Nascar fans to finally agree with a politician and get out and vote for him. Not going to win an election and certainly isn't going to make him a good president.
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Feb 10, 2016 2:52pm
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1780830 wrote:For all the shit Clinton takes for being "unlikeable", all Trump has to do is attack Cruz for being the same damn way and he's got it all about wrapped up.

Seriously all you hear from Trump is "make America great" (with no specifics), "attack non-whites as criminal enemies", and "I'm a great deal maker so trust me".

I can't believe people eat that shit up. Slogans that resonate with angry whites aren't going to fix the country's problems. It's just shit Trump says to get young frat boys and Nascar fans to finally agree with a politician and get out and vote for him. Not going to win an election and certainly isn't going to make him a good president.
Look everyone! I've spotted the Liberal!

Talking shit about a democrat? I'll just attack a republican as an argument!
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Feb 10, 2016 2:55pm
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Feb 10, 2016 3:49pm
queencitybuckeye;1780834 wrote:So much for the party of the little guy, landslide = tie. Despicable.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268935-clinton-likely-to-leave-nh-with-same-number-of-delegates
It's a huge joke. Bernie currently has 60% of the primary voters to Clinton's 40% but is only leading by 4 "hard" delegates. If you count Super Delegates, Bernie has 8(44 Total) and Hillary has 362(394 total).

The reality is Bernie has an uphill climb at best.
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Feb 10, 2016 3:58pm
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1780830 wrote: Seriously all you hear from Trump is "make America great" (with no specifics), "attack non-whites as criminal enemies", and "I'm a great deal maker so trust me".

I can't believe people eat that shit up.

Who ate up "hope and change" ?
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Feb 10, 2016 4:45pm
queencitybuckeye;1780834 wrote:So much for the party of the little guy, landslide = tie. Despicable.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268935-clinton-likely-to-leave-nh-with-same-number-of-delegates
I saw where it is now 15 Clinton 13 Bernie and 2 uncommitted.
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Feb 10, 2016 4:55pm
majorspark;1780862 wrote:I saw where it is now 15 Clinton 13 Bernie and 2 uncommitted.
Great defenders of democracy.
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Feb 10, 2016 5:18pm
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1780830 wrote:Slogans that resonate with angry whites aren't going to fix the country's problems.
So basically you're upset that Trump has stolen the Democratic playbook? Make whites out to be victims and appeal to the lowest common denominator - which I'm sure won't sound remotely familiar.
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Feb 10, 2016 5:34pm
queencitybuckeye;1780865 wrote:Great defenders of democracy.

The fix is in.
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Feb 10, 2016 6:03pm
SportsAndLady;1780832 wrote:Look everyone! I've spotted the Liberal!

Talking shit about a democrat? I'll just attack a republican as an argument!
Was pointing out the fact that the same "argument" is easily applied to either side. There's good and bad on both sides. In my experience though, when you start believing that even on your own you are smarter than an entire segment of society, the fool is staring at you in the mirror.
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Feb 10, 2016 6:04pm
QuakerOats;1780856 wrote:Who ate up "hope and change" ?

I did not. I voted for McCain in 2008. I'm not proud of that considering who he had selected as his VP, but it's what I did.
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Feb 10, 2016 6:24pm
gut;1780866 wrote:So basically you're upset that Trump has stolen the Democratic playbook? Make whites out to be victims and appeal to the lowest common denominator - which I'm sure won't sound remotely familiar.
lol'd and very true. It's a very smart strategy. I have always given credit to dems and Obama for finding ways to get votes. They will do anything to get votes, and they accomplish that (in the general election at least... they have been struggling at the state level).
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Feb 10, 2016 7:51pm
queencitybuckeye;1780834 wrote:So much for the party of the little guy, landslide = tie. Despicable.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268935-clinton-likely-to-leave-nh-with-same-number-of-delegates
sleeper;1780852 wrote:It's a huge joke. Bernie currently has 60% of the primary voters to Clinton's 40% but is only leading by 4 "hard" delegates. If you count Super Delegates, Bernie has 8(44 Total) and Hillary has 362(394 total).

The reality is Bernie has an uphill climb at best.
majorspark;1780862 wrote:I saw where it is now 15 Clinton 13 Bernie and 2 uncommitted.
QuakerOats;1780868 wrote:The fix is in.
Just like every election, Superdelegates vote for the front runner. If the tides turn, they change their vote to the new front runner. If Bernie pulls ahead, the Superdelegates will switch their votes to him. If Hillary remains the front runner, they'll keep their vote with her. It's not like this is anything new.
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Feb 10, 2016 8:00pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780884 wrote:Just like every election, Superdelegates vote for the front runner. If the tides turn, they change their vote to the new front runner. If Bernie pulls ahead, the Superdelegates will switch their votes to him. If Hillary remains the front runner, they'll keep their vote with her. It's not like this is anything new.
It's still bullshit. Then just wait until the end of the primary to make your decision. Don't take away or add to somebody's momentum based on who you think is the front runner.
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Feb 10, 2016 8:07pm
like_that;1780885 wrote:It's still bullshit. Then just wait until the end of the primary to make your decision. Don't take away or add to somebody's momentum based on who you think is the front runner.
Easiest way to ensure you don't have a brokered convention. Republicans haven't learned that apparently lol.
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Feb 10, 2016 8:24pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780886 wrote:Easiest way to ensure you don't have a brokered convention. Republicans haven't learned that apparently lol.
There hasn't been one yet.
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Feb 10, 2016 8:26pm
like_that;1780888 wrote:There hasn't been one yet.
Not yet. Letting trump hold your party hostage.
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Feb 10, 2016 9:23pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780889 wrote:Not yet. Letting trump hold your party hostage.
There has actually been more close calls with the democrats. I also wouldn't really wouldn't consider the GOP "my party." If there were a legitimate libertarian candidate who could challenge I would easily vote for him.
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Feb 11, 2016 6:52am
Heard about this on the local talk radio show. It dovetails right into what I said earlier on this thread.

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Feb 11, 2016 7:01am
CenterBHSFan;1780945 wrote:Heard about this on the local talk radio show. It dovetails right into what I said earlier on this thread.

[video=youtube;zQomTTskrtQ][/video]
Anybody else see the irony in man who wants to raise taxes (Bernie) asking for a man's endorsement, who doesn't pay his taxes (sharpton)? LOL.

As I said earlier, the dems will do or say anything to get votes and people just eat it up.
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Feb 11, 2016 7:22am
like_that;1780947 wrote:Anybody else see the irony in man who wants to raise taxes (Bernie) asking for a man's endorsement, who doesn't pay his taxes (sharpton)? LOL.

As I said earlier, the dems will do or say anything to get votes and people just eat it up.
He obviously needs the minority vote to win. "dems" will do anything to get votes lol. ok.
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Feb 11, 2016 8:10am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780948 wrote:He obviously needs the minority vote to win. "dems" will do anything to get votes lol. ok.
I don't know what to tell you if you can't see it. Your boy sanders right in front of your face is asking sharpton for help. Excuse me while I LMAO.

Edit: and do we even need to go over all the shit Hillary does for votes? How about Obama?

It's their divide and conquer strategy. Blacks are a great example of falling for the dems' bullshit every election.
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Feb 11, 2016 8:40am
like_that;1780949 wrote:I don't know what to tell you if you can't see it. Your boy sanders right in front of your face is asking sharpton for help. Excuse me while I LMAO.

Edit: and do we even need to go over all the shit Hillary does for votes? How about Obama?

It's their divide and conquer strategy. Blacks are a great example of falling for the dems' bullshit every election.

If you think it's just "dems" and not "r's" that do anything for votes, you're delusional.
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Feb 11, 2016 8:49am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780952 wrote:If you think it's just "dems" and not "r's" that do anything for votes, you're delusional.
He didn't say anything about republicans, it's about Bernie. But not surprised you're trying to make it that way.
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Feb 11, 2016 8:57am
SportsAndLady;1780955 wrote:He didn't say anything about republicans, it's about Bernie. But not surprised you're trying to make it that way.

That was the point of the rebuttal, genius. Making a blanket statement like "dems will do anything for votes" get's called out on when it doesn't encompass just one sect.