
4cards
Posts: 2,551
Jul 10, 2015 2:45pm
...with the confederate flag gone as a symbol of hate, the Klan will become a softer & more understanding organization!


TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Jul 10, 2015 4:27pm
What a glorious day! Racism has ended.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Jul 10, 2015 6:23pm
Get it over it. It should have never been there in the first place. It won't do anything to help racism but the flag of treasonous losers has no business flying on government property. If some red neck clown wants to fly it on their doublewide, go for it. No one is preventing you from doing it.
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Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
Jul 10, 2015 8:17pm
Kinda like the rainbow colors illuminating the white house just a few days ago.Wolves of Babylon;1740281 wrote: It should have never been there in the first place.
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Hammerin'Hank
Posts: 151
Jul 10, 2015 9:09pm
Isn't this what the King of England said?Wolves of Babylon;1740281 wrote:Get it over it. It should have never been there in the first place. It won't do anything to help racism but the flag of treasonous losers has no business flying on government property. If some red neck clown wants to fly it on their doublewide, go for it. No one is preventing you from doing it.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Jul 10, 2015 9:15pm
History is written by the winners. And fighting for freedom from tyranny is quite a bit different than fighting because you want to keep the right to own human beings as property.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 9:16pm
1861 them southern boys fighting for their rightsHammerin'Hank;1740302 wrote:Isn't this what the King of England said?
to own slaves

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jul 10, 2015 9:23pm
You can't be this stupid. On second thought.Bio-Hazzzzard;1740299 wrote:Kinda like the rainbow colors illuminating the white house just a few days ago.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Jul 10, 2015 9:43pm
I am a libertarian and support States Rights but this idea the confederacy was fighting for States rights is ridiculous.
In South Carolina declaration of secession they said they were doing it because of the hostility of the non slave holding States to the institution of slavery.
Mississippi said a blow to slavery was a blow to commerce and civilization.
I do find the Liberals crazy on this as well, acting as if this will lead to universal brotherhood,always pretending they are for minorities and ending racism while their economic and social programs keep people buried in generational poverty and imprisonment.
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In South Carolina declaration of secession they said they were doing it because of the hostility of the non slave holding States to the institution of slavery.
Mississippi said a blow to slavery was a blow to commerce and civilization.
I do find the Liberals crazy on this as well, acting as if this will lead to universal brotherhood,always pretending they are for minorities and ending racism while their economic and social programs keep people buried in generational poverty and imprisonment.
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Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
Jul 10, 2015 10:34pm
I will be the first to say that some take the name of this piece of cloth to racial hatred, but what about those that see it as where they came from with no hate in mind? Is it fair for them to see something that means a great deal to them be trampled down and the white house be lit up in rainbow days before? If you choose to call me stupid that's your right, but realize one thing, hate and love are both from the heart. There is one way to gain respect and many ways to lose respect. Our leaders of this country could care less who has respect for them and who doesn't, it doesn't seem fit their agenda.rmolin73;1740308 wrote:You can't be this stupid. On second thought.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 10:41pm
from its inception it was a flag of hate, representing an army of a nation established for the purpose of protecting and expanding slaveryBio-Hazzzzard;1740321 wrote:I will be the first to say that some take the name of this piece of cloth to racial hatred, but what about those that see it as where they came from with no hate in mind? Is it fair for them to see something that means a great deal to them be trampled down and the white house be lit up in rainbow days before? If you choose to call me stupid that's your right, but realize one thing, hate and love are both from the heart. There is one way to gain respect and many ways to lose respect. Our leaders of this country could care less who has respect for them and who doesn't, it doesn't fit their agenda.

Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
Jul 10, 2015 11:01pm
Maybe if the people of SC take it to SCOTUS they can have their colors illuminated on the white house as well.isadore;1740323 wrote:from its inception it was a flag of hate, representing an army of a nation established for the purpose of protecting and expanding slavery

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jul 10, 2015 11:55pm
Dude you are fucking delusional. The flag represents hate and white supremacy bottom line. I was born and raised in Georgia and the guys that were flying their flags high were the ones burning and vandalizing my fathers business. They were the same clowns that tried to run him out of an area he had been in for years because he wasn't white and he was successful. I'm in my late 20's and vividly remember a couple of guys in their big ass truck yelling at my father "this ****** thinks he's better than us". If have absolutely no respect for the flag and the people that come up with weak ass excuses as to why they support it.Bio-Hazzzzard;1740321 wrote:I will be the first to say that some take the name of this piece of cloth to racial hatred, but what about those that see it as where they came from with no hate in mind? Is it fair for them to see something that means a great deal to them be trampled down and the white house be lit up in rainbow days before? If you choose to call me stupid that's your right, but realize one thing, hate and love are both from the heart. There is one way to gain respect and many ways to lose respect. Our leaders of this country could care less who has respect for them and who doesn't, it doesn't seem fit their agenda.

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 11, 2015 7:28am
I've yet to meet one person who flys/hangs/tattoos/etc. a confederate flag that isn't a racist. I have, however, met at least 100 who display the stars/bars and are racist. There may be a guy who likes the flag because he's a history buff, but that type of person is outnumbered by the racists by a magnitude of probably 1000s:1.

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 11, 2015 7:41am
I live in Charleston, SC, and have for most of my 20's. Thanks tho. I don't fly a confederate flag, I just think it's dumb as shit, since it was flying at a memorial for confederate soldiers! And even more retarded that they took it down from confederate forts!!! Let's just throw history away because of the feelz.rmolin73;1740246 wrote:The crying from you fuckers here up north is hilarious. If you can't comprehend what this means well then remain in ignorance. Better yet keep relishing a loser since you do it so well.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 11, 2015 7:56am
Fort Sumter and Fort Moultrie were both United States forts first that were seized by the Confederacy and later returned to being United States forts, and that is the only flag that should fly over them. During World War II the Japanese seized US territory, Guam for example. The Japanese flag does not fly over that island.iclfan2;1740352 wrote:I live in Charleston, SC, and have for most of my 20's. Thanks tho. I don't fly a confederate flag, I just think it's dumb as shit, since it was flying at a memorial for confederate soldiers! And even more retarded that they took it down from confederate forts!!! Let's just throw history away because of the feelz.
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rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jul 11, 2015 11:30am
History is for museums where that flag should be.iclfan2;1740352 wrote:I live in Charleston, SC, and have for most of my 20's. Thanks tho. I don't fly a confederate flag, I just think it's dumb as shit, since it was flying at a memorial for confederate soldiers! And even more retarded that they took it down from confederate forts!!! Let's just throw history away because of the feelz.
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mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 11, 2015 12:43pm
I think the Indians should raise hell about the american flag and have it taken down cause it represents hatred, bigotry, murderers, racism, rape, thievery, and countless other crimes. Ohh wait that would mean the african americans, chinese americans, and every other race that was enslaved to build this nation should raise hell about that flag as well.

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jul 11, 2015 12:54pm
If that would happen you guys would lose your minds.mcburg93;1740369 wrote:I think the Indians should raise hell about the american flag and have it taken down cause it represents hatred, bigotry, murderers, racism, rape, thievery, and countless other crimes. Ohh wait that would mean the african americans, chinese americans, and every other race that was enslaved to build this nation should raise hell about that flag as well.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jul 11, 2015 1:16pm
Texas uses the six flags over texas on many things to show their history of being part of Spain, France, Mexico, republic of Texas, USA, and the Confederacy. Maybe it exists, but I haven't heard any crying over it yet.rmolin73;1740371 wrote:If that would happen you guys would lose your minds.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 11, 2015 1:23pm
"This controversy, however, hasn’t touched Six Flags Over Texas and the Confederate flag that’s flown at or near the Arlington theme park’s entrance for nearly 54 years. Six Flags, named for the number of nations that flew their flags over Texas, had already backed away from the racially charged symbol and Confederate history decades ago with little publicity and no controversy.Al Bundy;1740374 wrote:Texas uses the six flags over texas on many things to show their history of being part of Spain, France, Mexico, republic of Texas, USA, and the Confederacy. Maybe it exists, but I haven't heard any crying over it yet.
“We do not fly or sell any variation of the Confederate battle flag,” said Sharon Parker, a Six Flags spokeswoman.
Parker said she wasn’t sure when the battle flag was swept aside. An amateur park historian guessed that it happened by the mid-1990s."
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20150629-six-flags-over-texas-in-arlington-long-ago-put-rebel-banner-in-past.ece
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jul 11, 2015 1:50pm
Retard, I'm not talking about the amusement park.isadore;1740375 wrote:"This controversy, however, hasn’t touched Six Flags Over Texas and the Confederate flag that’s flown at or near the Arlington theme park’s entrance for nearly 54 years. Six Flags, named for the number of nations that flew their flags over Texas, had already backed away from the racially charged symbol and Confederate history decades ago with little publicity and no controversy.
“We do not fly or sell any variation of the Confederate battle flag,” said Sharon Parker, a Six Flags spokeswoman.
Parker said she wasn’t sure when the battle flag was swept aside. An amateur park historian guessed that it happened by the mid-1990s."
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20150629-six-flags-over-texas-in-arlington-long-ago-put-rebel-banner-in-past.ece

rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jul 11, 2015 2:39pm
I was like wtf does 6 flags have to do with anything.Al Bundy;1740377 wrote:Retard, I'm not talking about the amusement park.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 11, 2015 2:56pm
gosh a ruddies that is what I get for trying to pass on some knowledge to one who obviously is consistently lacking in it..Al Bundy;1740377 wrote:Retard, I'm not talking about the amusement park.

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 11, 2015 3:13pm
Both forts are not operating, and basically museums. Their main history is mostly the civil war. You can make an argument about the statehouse, I guess (even thought it's t a confederate monument, we gonna rip that down too?), but to say it doesn't belong at a fort where the confederates fought for years is ridiculous. The American flag is flown above both at both forts. The palmetto moon was also on a lot of flags during the civil war, should SC not have that anymore either? Or is it because some schmucks fly it to be racists instead of history/ heritage that the confederate flag is bad?rmolin73;1740367 wrote:History is for museums where that flag should be.