Cleveland Browns Offseason Talk

Pro Sports 3,478 replies 103,918 views
royal_k's avatar
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 6, 2010 8:57pm
lol...Brandon McDonald goes by "Lockdown" on his Twitter page.
M
miller45452003
Posts: 673
Apr 6, 2010 8:59pm
royal_k wrote: lol...Brandon McDonald goes by "Lockdown" on his Twitter page.
lmao...meaning his feet are "lockeddown" to the turf.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 6, 2010 9:03pm
Meaning he should be "locked down" to the bench so his sorry "I'm dating a gold digging hood rat bitch and couldn't tackle a Pop Warner wide receiver" ass never sees the field.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 6, 2010 9:11pm
BTW...Trent Dilfer said that Bradford is not the best player in this draft and is not as good as Mark Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Stafford, Flacco, Clausen or even Colt McCoy...fwiw
royal_k's avatar
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 6, 2010 9:13pm
Dilfer's a douche
wes_mantooth's avatar
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 6, 2010 9:33pm
lol...Dilfer is not very good at his job. I love seeing him whenever the Browns come up.....he instantly gets pissed.
B
Big Red Monster
Posts: 436
Apr 6, 2010 10:35pm
Dilfer is a turd.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 5:24am
Hearing that Shaun Rogers is likely looking at a one game suspension, regardless of what team he's on.
P
pkebker
Posts: 760
Apr 7, 2010 6:43am
wow, one game. That suprises me, I was expecting along the lines of a 4-8 games
B
Bluepride13
Posts: 75
Apr 7, 2010 7:39am
BR1986FB wrote: BTW...Trent Dilfer said that Bradford is not the best player in this draft and is not as good as Mark Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Stafford, Flacco, Clausen or even Colt McCoy...fwiw
He loves McCoy. That being said Dilfer is represented by David Dunns Atletes first Firm, which also represents Colt McCoy. May have something to do with it.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 7:41am
pkebker wrote: wow, one game. That suprises me, I was expecting along the lines of a 4-8 games
Yeah, I'm kinda in the "wait and see" mode on this one. One of the guys on the OBR is saying he's heard one game. I'd be surprised if that was all.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 7:42am
Bluepride13 wrote:
BR1986FB wrote: BTW...Trent Dilfer said that Bradford is not the best player in this draft and is not as good as Mark Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Stafford, Flacco, Clausen or even Colt McCoy...fwiw
He loves McCoy. That being said Dilfer is represented by David Dunns Atletes first Firm, which also represents Colt McCoy. May have something to do with it.
Who reps Clausen? The reason I say this is that he was pretty high on Clausen and kinda threw McCoy's name in there.
B
Bluepride13
Posts: 75
Apr 7, 2010 8:12am
I dont really know about Clausen. I watched Kiper yesterday and he has Clausen as the third best player in the draft. The other guy has him ranked @ 38! Jon Gruden also did an interview for the upcoming ESPN draft special and was blown away by his knowledge of breaking down plays and explaining why the play either worked or dodnt work. Gruden said "I love this guy".

We have so many other needs and thats why I would pass on Clausen if he were at 7 and rather take McCoy in rd 2. With the offense we will be usuing I think Colt be be a very good QB.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 8:28am
Bluepride13 wrote: I dont really know about Clausen. I watched Kiper yesterday and he has Clausen as the third best player in the draft. The other guy has him ranked @ 38! Jon Gruden also did an interview for the upcoming ESPN draft special and was blown away by his knowledge of breaking down plays and explaining why the play either worked or dodnt work. Gruden said "I love this guy".

We have so many other needs and thats why I would pass on Clausen if he were at 7 and rather take McCoy in rd 2. With the offense we will be usuing I think Colt be be a very good QB.
Agree with the comments on McCoy. In a perfect world, Berry and Clausen are there at #7, we can trade down a spot or two to a team who wants Clausen and STILL get Berry.
M
miller45452003
Posts: 673
Apr 7, 2010 8:28am
BR1986FB wrote:
pkebker wrote: wow, one game. That suprises me, I was expecting along the lines of a 4-8 games
Yeah, I'm kinda in the "wait and see" mode on this one. One of the guys on the OBR is saying he's heard one game. I'd be surprised if that was all.
He may still be included in a draft day trade after all. I figured this gun charge put that idea to rest. One game doesn't seem possible, but then again Rapistburger can go around and fondle little girls with no problems.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 8:30am
I really don't want Rogers on the team and it's more due to how he fits the scheme than his gun charge stupidity. Don't get me wrong, the gun thing pissed me off but I'd rather see them get younger on the D-Line.
B
Bluepride13
Posts: 75
Apr 7, 2010 8:35am
BR1986FB wrote:
Bluepride13 wrote: I dont really know about Clausen. I watched Kiper yesterday and he has Clausen as the third best player in the draft. The other guy has him ranked @ 38! Jon Gruden also did an interview for the upcoming ESPN draft special and was blown away by his knowledge of breaking down plays and explaining why the play either worked or dodnt work. Gruden said "I love this guy".

We have so many other needs and thats why I would pass on Clausen if he were at 7 and rather take McCoy in rd 2. With the offense we will be usuing I think Colt be be a very good QB.
Agree with the comments on McCoy. In a perfect world, Berry and Clausen are there at #7, we can trade down a spot or two to a team who wants Clausen and STILL get Berry.
Some days I dont think we have a shot at Berry, and other days I believe we will get him. I really believe there might be a run on o-tackles before we pick which may push Berry down. Detroit definitely needs protection for Stafford and Seattle and KC need help also. I think Seattle burns us again like last year...right in front of us.

Its hard to really see what teams are thinking right now. There is a lot of posturing going on. Holmgren definitly knows how to stir the pot.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 8:45am
Seattle is the team that I think could burn us on Berry too. Initially thought it might be Washington until I heard their interest in a LT.
N
Nate
Posts: 3,949
Apr 7, 2010 9:37am
I think after Jacksonville and Buffalo, no one needs a QB so I don't trading spots for someone to move up and grab Jimmy boy are an option anymore.
Writerbuckeye's avatar
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Apr 7, 2010 11:28am
Has Gruden ever met a QB he didn't like?
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 11:36am
Writerbuckeye wrote: Has Gruden ever met a QB he didn't like?
True story.
OneBuckeye's avatar
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Apr 7, 2010 11:51am
Anyone think seattle will reach for Taylor Mays at 5? It is Pete Carroll... or he could be hoping Mays could somehow fall to him in the 2nd and go elsewhere with the 5 pick.
stroups's avatar
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Apr 7, 2010 11:54am
OneBuckeye wrote: Anyone think seattle will reach for Taylor Mays at 5? It is Pete Carroll... or he could be hoping Mays could somehow fall to him in the 2nd and go elsewhere with the 5 pick.
No way........... I think it might be a reach for the Bengals to get him a 21
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 7, 2010 1:00pm
Diamonds in the Rough

By The Sports Xchange

Posted Apr 7, 2010

The Sports Xchange takes a look at five players at each position who could make an impact on the NFL.

The ability to nail first-round picks is what most fans grade personnel departments on. But the truly great scouting staffs generate deep drafts and sift through the undrafted free-agent pool, unearthing a few “Diamonds in the Rough.”

Below is a list of players who haven’t received the attention their physical abilities warrant. Some played for smaller schools or ended their career injured. Others broke out as seniors after being forced to wait for playing time. Still others enjoyed a great deal of collegiate success, but are mischaracterized as lacking the prerequisite skills for the NFL. All are viewed as potential selections by NFL teams, though most are unknown to the average fan.

Quality prospects including Larry English (first round, San Diego), Louis Delmas (second round, Detroit), David Veikune (second round, Cleveland), Ramses Barden (third round, Giants), Christopher Owens (third round, Atlanta) and Glover Quin (fourth round, Houston) were among the players listed in my initial Diamonds in the Rough article for the 2009 draft – published in August 2008.

Colts wide receiver Austin Collie, who led all rookies in receptions (60) and receiving touchdowns (7); Bills free safety Jairus Byrd, who tied for the league lead with nine interceptions; and Raiders defensive end Matt Shaughnessy, who finished second at the position in tackles (29) and sacks (4) were among other “Diamonds in the Rough” leading up to last April’s draft.

Over the past four years, 129 of the 160 players listed in my August edition were drafted into the NFL. The vast majority of the players not drafted were signed by NFL teams as priority free agents in the days following the draft.
This year’s second-day picks at each position could prove to be steals down the road. Among each position is at least one player not invited to the Indianapolis scouting combine. (Denoted with an asterisk)

Players are listed alphabetically.

Quarterback:
1. Jarrett Brown, West Virginia: 6-3, 224, 4.54
2. Levi Brown, Troy: 6-4, 229, 4.99
3. *Jonathan Crompton, Tennessee: 6-3, 222, 4.88
4. Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State: 5-11, 187, 4.52
5. John Skelton, Fordham: 6-5, 243, 4.93

Running Back:
1. Toney Baker, NC State: 5-10, 229, 4.53
2. Joique Bell, Wayne State (MI): 5-11, 220, 4.73
3. *Deji Karim, Southern Illinois: 5-09, 209, 4.40
4. Lonyae Miller Fresno State: 5-11, 221, 4.50
5. Keiland Williams, LSU: 5-10, 233, 4.50

Wide Receiver:
1. Seyi Ajirotutu, Fresno State: 6-3, 204, 4.57
2. *Marc Mariani, Montana: 6-1, 189, 4.48
3. Taylor Price, Ohio: 6-0, 204, 4.42
4. Andre Roberts, The Citadel: 5-11, 195, 4.46
5. Blair White, Michigan State: 6-2, 209, 4.44

Tight End:
1. Jimmy Graham, Miami: 6-6, 260, 4.53
2. Clay Harbor, Missouri State: 6-3, 252, 4.70
3. Tony Moeaki, Iowa: 6-3, 245, 4.71
4. Andrew Quarles, Penn State: 6-4, 254, 4.71
5. *Mickey Shuler, Penn State: 6-4, 248, 4.86

Offensive Line:
1. *Kenny Alfred, Washington State: 6-2, 290, 5.06 (C)
2. Casey Knips, South Dakota State: 6-7, 308, 5.21 (OT)
3. Marshall Newhouse, TCU: 6-4, 319, 5.03 (OG)
4. Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale: 6-8, 312, 5.06 (OT)
5. Tony Washington, Abilene Christian: 6-6, 311, 5.32 (OT)

Defensive End:
1. Alex Carrington, Arkansas State: 6-5, 285, 4.92
2. Hall Davis, Louisiana-Lafayette: 6-4, 271, 4.84
3. Jeffrey Fitzgerald, Kansas State: 6-4, 270, 4.83
4. Austen Lane, Murray State: 6-6, 276, 4.84
5. *Mitch Unrein, Wyoming: 6-5, 270, 4.82

Defensive Tackle:
1. Brandon Deaderick, Alabama: 6-4, 314, 5.08
2. Earl Mitchell, Arizona: 6-2, 296, 4.75
3. Mike Neal, Purdue: 6-3, 294, 4.89
4. Torrell Troup, Central Florida: 6-3, 314, 5.18
5. *Ekom Udofia, Stanford, 6-1, 326, 5.18

Linebacker:
1. *Reggie Carter, UCLA: 6-0, 238, 4.73
2. AJ Edds, Iowa: 6-4, 246, 4.62
3. Travis Goethel, Arizona State: 6-3, 240, 4.81
4. Carl Ihenacho, San Jose State: 6-2, 255, 4.72
5. Simoni Lawrence, Minnesota: 6-1, 232, 4.59

Cornerback:
1. Joshua Moore, Kansas State: 5-11, 188, 4.50
2. Amari Spievey, Iowa: 5-11, 195, 4.52
3. *Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois: 5-10, 207, 4.49
4. Kevin Thomas, USC: 6-0, 192, 4.41
5. Jamar Wall, Texas Tech: 5-10, 204, 4.52

Safety:
1. Jonathan Amaya, Nevada: 6-1, 203, 4.51
2. Cody Grimm, Virginia Tech: 5-11, 203, 4.55
3. *Chris Maragos, Wisconsin: 5-11, 200, 4.49
4. *Mike Newton, Buffalo: 5-10, 197, 4.50
5. Darian Stewart, South Carolina: 5-11, 213, 4.53

http://cle.scout.com/2/960343.html
krazie45's avatar
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
Apr 7, 2010 1:37pm
No one should ever be looking into drafting Jonathon Crompton. He was one of the worst division 1 quarterbacks I've ever seen, and I highly doubt he has this "hidden" NFL talent.