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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 11, 2010 8:49am
Not to skirt the question but it's a collaboration of sorts.pkebker wrote: Just curious, How much do you think Holmgren is doing, and how much do you think it is Heckert. I've been under the impression that Holmgren is letting Heckert make the trade calls...
Heckert & Mangini work together evaluating players and if there's a division Holmgren breaks the tie. I'm sure that Holmgren had quite a bit of a say in the acquisition of Wallace where I'm sure Mangini had quite a bit of input in the acquisition of "blue collar, Mangini-like" players in Fujita & Pashos.
For as much as a many thought this marriage would be like oil & water (myself included), Heckert, Mangini & Holmgren seem to be doing very well together.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Mar 11, 2010 8:53am
This will really be put to the test with the draft. If they can collaborate like it seems they are right now, this draft has the potential to truly right the ship once and for all.BR1986FB wrote:Not to skirt the question but it's a collaboration of sorts.pkebker wrote: Just curious, How much do you think Holmgren is doing, and how much do you think it is Heckert. I've been under the impression that Holmgren is letting Heckert make the trade calls...
Heckert & Mangini work together evaluating players and if there's a division Holmgren breaks the tie. I'm sure that Holmgren had quite a bit of a say in the acquisition of Wallace where I'm sure Mangini had quite a bit of input in the acquisition of "blue collar, Mangini-like" players in Fujita & Pashos.
For as much as a many thought this marriage would be like oil & water (myself included), Heckert, Mangini & Holmgren seem to be doing very well together.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Mar 11, 2010 9:18am
http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/104180.html?isap=1&nav=5028
More good stuff from Fujita.
More good stuff from Fujita.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 11, 2010 9:29am
Drew Stanton's name continues to come up in connection with the Browns
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Mar 11, 2010 10:23am
^^^Is this where the BQ trade rumors to the Lions come from?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 11, 2010 10:38am
Not really. Stanton's name just keeps surfacing.
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
Mar 11, 2010 11:01am
I'm not sure where/how Stanton would fit into the Browns' plans. I'm going to chalk it up as internet rumors for now.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Mar 11, 2010 11:33am
I would hope no trade with Carolina (involving Quinn) would happen until they get the QB situation finalized in some manner.
Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Mar 11, 2010 11:50am
Having Quinn, Wallace and Ratliff would make you confident?Writerbuckeye wrote: I would hope no trade with Carolina (involving Quinn) would happen until they get the QB situation finalized in some manner.
Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
Mar 11, 2010 12:07pm
Wallace is better than many are assuming. He is an improvement, no doubt, then what we have. I'm not saying he is the answer, but already, the QB position has been greatly improved. A trade with Quinn for any decent player would be a good trade...
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Mar 11, 2010 12:37pm
If they have shored up the OL and the defensive backfield a bit more then, yes, I'd feel okay.buckeyes_woowee wrote:Having Quinn, Wallace and Ratliff would make you confident?Writerbuckeye wrote: I would hope no trade with Carolina (involving Quinn) would happen until they get the QB situation finalized in some manner.
Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
Wallace and/or Quinn could "manage" a game that was more about short passing and running (West Coast).
In fact, if he isn't traded (I'm neutral on this issue), I'd be very curious to see if Quinn could run a version of the West Coast offense since his strength is having decent touch on the ball and checking down.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Mar 11, 2010 12:41pm
I don't think he releases the ball quick enough.
He's been indecisive but that could change with experience.
He's been indecisive but that could change with experience.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Mar 11, 2010 1:47pm
I don't think he is accurate enough either
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big_hits24
Posts: 175
Mar 11, 2010 2:30pm
What's the latest on TE Ben Watson? Did he visit cleveland and is he still high on their list?
Thunder70
Posts: 748
Mar 11, 2010 2:35pm
Im ok with Delhomme. Tommy John's surgery take a bit to recover from and I think last year's performance (or lack thereof) was a result of coming back too soon. I think he'll be a good pick up for somebody and will be good for a couple more years.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 11, 2010 2:50pm
He visited and there is supposedly still interest.big_hits24 wrote: What's the latest on TE Ben Watson? Did he visit cleveland and is he still high on their list?
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big_hits24
Posts: 175
Mar 11, 2010 3:13pm
^^Is he scheduled to visit with any teams you know of? Or nothing really being talked about? I thought he visited with the team yesterday but hadn't really heard how things went and what can be expected.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Mar 11, 2010 3:18pm
I think they should hire Aaron Goldhammer as a scout.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 11, 2010 3:26pm
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 11, 2010 3:32pm
^^^Not a bad flyer prospect at TE^^^
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 11, 2010 3:35pm
Too bad that asshole Grossi had to spill the beans. Now EVERYONE will know about him. 
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 11, 2010 3:37pm
I thought the same thing.lol, they had all the knowledge as the only scouts there and he just went and blew it 
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big_hits24
Posts: 175
Mar 11, 2010 3:46pm
Pretty impressive numbers...How good are his hands I wonder and if he can really be a true TE in the NFL? I saw that article moments before you posted in BR
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Mar 11, 2010 4:11pm
After his visit today at Brownd headquarters. Jake Delhomme was on his way to take a physical for the Browns. I think that situation is almost a done deal. Raiders RB Justin Fargus was also in Cleveland today.
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Mar 11, 2010 4:20pm
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF???????????????????september63 wrote: After his visit today at Brownd headquarters. Jake Delhomme was on his way to take a physical for the Brownd. I think that situation is almost a done deal. Raiders RB Justin Fargus was also in Cleveland today.