2015 Browns Offseason Thread

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Aug 29, 2015 2:06pm
For fucks sake. This is the NFL. Pryor isn't playing QB in the NFL. You have to actually be good. And can't get by on athleticism alone.

Move on
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Aug 29, 2015 7:06pm
No Pryor again. Disappointing.
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Aug 29, 2015 7:11pm
Benjamin improving his case to make the roster, which I'm not sure I like.
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Aug 29, 2015 7:16pm
WhatAboutBob;1747706 wrote:I'm new here so I don't know what Monty means...sorry
It means you are a dumbass
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WhatAboutBob
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Aug 29, 2015 7:28pm
So why am I a dumbass ass? I have been a Cleveland fan since I was born... We have 1 playoff appearance once every ten years. I know we won championship s before the superbowl was introduced..Since then we are only remembered for things like the byner fumble, the drive, and Bernie Kosar.. Yet I'm called a dumbass for stating facts..
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Aug 29, 2015 7:34pm
Impressive quarter.
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Aug 29, 2015 7:37pm
Nice first quarter. That was a nice effort by hartline
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Aug 29, 2015 7:39pm
Wow. Best quarter we've ever had ever.
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Aug 29, 2015 8:26pm
McCown just got planted.
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Aug 30, 2015 1:26am
All I know is this....if McCown wants to take hits like those all season, he won't be on the field more than 5 games this season. I was NOT that impressed with him. He made throws to the sidelines that were impressive....he showed a lot of heart...but then again so did Hoyer, who by the way, just won ANOTHER starting job in the NFL with the Texans. I'm not saying by ANY means Hoyer was the savior, but if he didn't have the media blitz and organizational pressures of a certain Heisman winning QB down his back, may have been able to bounce back and play well again. He was 3-0 vs Cincinnati, we were IN a playoff hunt, and we decide to pull the rug out from under him THEN? In turn all I'm saying is McCown will play until he gets broken.....Manziel will come in and either stink the joint up or play well....and this next off season my 37 year commitment to the Browns once again will be at square 1 with the quarterback position. For Christs Sakes, Bernie got so drunk in the 1st half this pre season game, he couldn't even make the halftime show! (which isn't a shocker)
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Aug 30, 2015 10:54am
Go4alOngbOmB;1747766 wrote:All I know is this....if McCown wants to take hits like those all season, he won't be on the field more than 5 games this season. I was NOT that impressed with him. He made throws to the sidelines that were impressive....he showed a lot of heart...but then again so did Hoyer, who by the way, just won ANOTHER starting job in the NFL with the Texans. I'm not saying by ANY means Hoyer was the savior, but if he didn't have the media blitz and organizational pressures of a certain Heisman winning QB down his back, may have been able to bounce back and play well again. He was 3-0 vs Cincinnati, we were IN a playoff hunt, and we decide to pull the rug out from under him THEN? In turn all I'm saying is McCown will play until he gets broken.....Manziel will come in and either stink the joint up or play well....and this next off season my 37 year commitment to the Browns once again will be at square 1 with the quarterback position. For Christs Sakes, Bernie got so drunk in the 1st half this pre season game, he couldn't even make the halftime show! (which isn't a shocker)
Are we actually going to argue McClown vs Hoyer? They both suck. Neither QB can perform if they don't have a running game, it is that simple. Just look at McCown and Hoyers stats with/without a play action. It is pretty damn telling. They are one in the same, but the big difference is McCown is willing to mentor JFF at least and no create any divisiveness. If you think having Hoyer is the difference between us making/missing the playoffs, you're delusional. I am willing to bet Mallet takes over the starting spot at some point this season.
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Aug 30, 2015 12:22pm
So Pryor's getting cut right?
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BR1986FB
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Aug 30, 2015 12:35pm
Benny The Jet;1747788 wrote:So Pryor's getting cut right?
One would think so.
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Aug 30, 2015 12:47pm
BR1986FB;1747791 wrote:One would think so.
Unless the "one" is Footwedge, in which case Pryor is still the greatest wide receiver in the history of the game, despite not having actually played any game time at that position.
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Aug 30, 2015 2:13pm
Feel bad for Pryor. He makes a decision that not a lot of people in the ego-driven NFL would make (change positions because you aren't good at the one youve played your whole life), and a team gives you the chance to do that, but you can't get healthy. The Browns have no choice but to cut him.
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Aug 30, 2015 3:28pm
I think he still has a shot. They didn't play him yesterday I read bc of the turf. If he plays game 4 and plays well o see him making the team
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Aug 30, 2015 5:41pm
Why would they cut him? He wanted to play but they held him out of the game.
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Aug 30, 2015 6:52pm
Duke Johnson has a concussion. Nice to know our rookie RB is already injury prone.
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Aug 30, 2015 7:21pm
like_that;1747810 wrote:Duke Johnson has a concussion. Nice to know our rookie RB is already injury prone.
Durability was not his strong suit at Miami, either.
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Sonofanump
Aug 30, 2015 10:00pm
I don't think Pryor gets cut. Not too many 6' 4" receivers on this team.
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Aug 30, 2015 10:25pm
Sonofanump;1747826 wrote:I don't think Pryor gets cut. Not too many 6' 4" receivers on this team.
You think they're gonna keep someone who just started the position and hasn't played in any exhibition games or much practices? Over other WRs they've spent draft picks and money on?
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Sonofanump
Aug 30, 2015 10:34pm
SportsAndLady;1747828 wrote:You think they're gonna keep someone who just started the position and hasn't played in any exhibition games or much practices? Over other WRs they've spent draft picks and money on?
Yes. I think that the need for 5'8" receivers is limited.
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Aug 30, 2015 11:08pm
I'm thinking Pryor has made the team for a few weeks. They know what they have and aren't rushing him back.


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Aug 30, 2015 11:09pm
I thought them holding him out last night was the sure sign he's made the team. He wanted to play. They didn't want him to aggravate his injury. They're not gonna be good anyway, I think you keep him and try to see what he can do
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Aug 31, 2015 12:08am
like_that;1747782 wrote:Are we actually going to argue McClown vs Hoyer? They both suck. Neither QB can perform if they don't have a running game, it is that simple. Just look at McCown and Hoyers stats with/without a play action. It is pretty damn telling. They are one in the same, but the big difference is McCown is willing to mentor JFF at least and no create any divisiveness. If you think having Hoyer is the difference between us making/missing the playoffs, you're delusional. I am willing to bet Mallet takes over the starting spot at some point this season.

It wasn't even a rant about McCown vs Hoyer, it was WAY deeper than that. I said myself that Hoyer was NOT the savior, we all know that. He did though have a winning record as a starting QB, numbers unfortunately do not lie, but the fact I watched him shit down his leg a few times last season didn't lie either. All I was trying to get across is that we desperately need to find a bell cow at the QB position. I honestly think we have a very nice young team building up there on the lake, but the primary cog missing is consistency at quarterback. Hoyer could only get us "so far" so to say. We need to actively look for the person who will get us farther, develop them with patience and coaching, not a baptism by fire, and stick by them. (on a side not I think it is going to be hilarious watching a 5'8 QB throw to multiple 5'8 receivers at some point this season, it will be like the circus came to town.)